Mini 416 - AM Mafia - Game Over D:

[PJ.]

What up, Shea? This is DC from WIFOM. Anyway, I also think Cubsfan is scummy. Okay, game-related content now Ladies, Gentlemen, and IH.

I dislike how Skruffs clearly wrote that Sleep = Mafia and Work=Town in the rules and Nai is still pushing that it doesn't directly say that Sleep can night talk. He then says that in Normal games things don't change all that much(which is true) and that it is highly probable that Sleep is normal mafia. So, when you think that,they are normal mafia and Skruffs writes that they are normal mafia then it's not normal mafia, in a normal mafia game? Your logic doesn't make any sense and that last sentence was very wordy but I can't make it better. It's seems like Nai is trying to find holes that he can wiggles himself into when he needs to fake a claim. Just for some semi relevant information, Nai is an experianced player so this probably isn't something that can be blamed on him being a "new player".

Vote: Nai

for his poor logic and trying to find holes in the system.

[PJ.]

33% of the time.

[PJ.]

Scum normally makes up about a quarter of game on average, plus new scum could increase the effectiveness, along with bastard mod games that have a huge number of scum will increase the effectiveness. So I'm guessing that a third or so of the time it is effective. I have seen it in quite a few of my games and I am a newer player. Shea was in my first game on a different site. I was quickly lynched.

[PJ.]

I am on the same page as cog, especially since when Nai asked about his quintuple post being an edit, TSQ responded with I wish implying that he has a character count. I also believe it is the snooze button or alarm clock, his alignment depends on this question. For now, I would not like a claim from Shea though.

Unvote

I don't like MassGoon's posting and I really don't like IH's last post so

FOS

both of them.

[PJ.]

I lack refresh button skills.

[PJ.]

Definently,

Vote:IH

[PJ.]

Why are you sold?

[PJ.]

Nai, where do I say the case is based on Fluff? I in no way have endorsed M_G, but have endorsed CoG due to liking his view on things, except for the fluff bit.


About MG posting, I simply did not like why he voted for Nai and don't agree that my logic was along the same lines as him. Are logic was very different and attacked different parts of the post, as has been point out by Elias I believe. Currently, I like the explanation given by Elias and am going to FoS MG later in this post.

Why are you voting me MG? If you are trying make a connection between us your doing a good job. And I don't mind since you happen to be a one shot vig. I also don't believe the town should direct the vig, but will throw in my two cents if it comes down to that.

On this current incident with PBuG and the MG claim. I don't think MG is looking at the right thing about PBuG. I don't believe he subclaimed vig, I believe PBuG just said he was the House Telephone. I'm sure we all have house phones at are homes, so I'm going to give my take on it. It doesn't seem to me that the Home Phone is a work related object because it you can call in sick and if you don't not run your buisness from your house(which our "owner" does not) it is not used for work. It is not sleep because it rings and can wake him up interupting his sleep. The reason I believe the cell phone is because he can use his cell phone for work and bring it to work. The one shot works because if we was going to call in sick he could simply turn off the cell phone. House phone, to me at least, sounds like a neutral. Take this for what you will. Remember that mods around here(MS) tend to make games unbreakable by mass claim. I'm not going to vote PBuG but I would like a response, not a claim necessarily but a little explanation.


To sum this up,

Unvote, FoS:MG and PBuG

[PJ.]

Fine, don't make a comment. I'm fine with that. I was giving my analysis and hoping for some kind of non-claim comment. I see that is impossible and from BuG's reaction I believe I was pretty close. For all I know/care both you and MG are neutral characters due to the dispute of telephones in general.

[PJ.]

My vote will be coming on PBuG if he can not give CoG the answers he desires.

[PJ.]

I would like for him to at least tell all that your case is sufficient, because even I feel that your case is a strong one and I'm not even voting MG. My reason for not voting MG is because PBuG is far scummier and I don't like his reaction to the claim, he seemed to want people to rush and lynch without thinking and I have already offered my thoughts about his subclaim. I am more looking for the 2nd one.

[PJ.]

If MG comes up town one shot vig, PBuG will almost be certified Serial Killer in my book. I don't think there is a chance in hell that they are the same alignment.

[PJ.]

I'm ok with it and will hammer when the town is in agreement and I agree with the TSQ's last post and I agree with Elias and Nai on not directing the vig kill.

MG and I are nowhere close to connected but to each their own. And on the note of you calling me and CoG scum or masons: is it possible that we share the same logic and are in no way linked, or is that impossible that two players can have the same outlook?

[PJ.]

STOP!


Hamma Time!

Vote:Massive_Gonnery

[PJ.]

Ebwop:

Vote:Massive_Goonery

not gonnery

[PJ.]

Alright, first of all I said I would hammer when Elias put down the vote. Elias put down the vote and I hammered; I simply stayed consistant. He posted that we were in agreement so I said "For the town" and voted him. That is the first piece of fluff on this case.

Secondly, I didn't look and say "Hey, I'm going to follow CoG" He wasn't even on the wagon when I got my first post him. I simply looked at the situation and deceided Nai shouldn't have been let off the mat so easily. That has nothing to do with following CoG. Afterwards I agreed with CoG about most of the game.

Thirdly, I never said I was staying away from the MG wagon I simply would have prefered a PBuG lynch. There was no one, myself included, wanted to spend the time to test MG's claim.

Let's look a PBuG, I say he could be SK and he gets heavily defensive. Now he comes out and says he wants to claim as the first post to day 2. Hmm, has someone set-up a false claim? Why are you so eager to "clear up your actions from yesterday" with a claim? Right now, I could careless if you claimed, I already am convinced that you and MG were not the same alignment.

[PJ.]

Alright, I want an answer from Fircoal too, since thats what the cool kids are doing.

On TSQ, I fully believe Shea is both bored enough and ballsy enough to fake a post restriction if not for his pleasure but Skruff's pleasure. Have guys thought that the post restriction wasn't the challenge he wanted? It could be this right here. Defending himself against LAL. For all we know he is part of a band of gimps that are trying to revolutionize mafia by destroying the Lynch All Liars tactic. So what I'm trying to say is he could be telling the truth and I'm afraid if he did this with a power role. But I will throw one thing out there, the last time I saw TSQ lie he was scum. Isn't that right, "Liu Kang"?

Revolutionize Mafia? Sounds tempting... ~ Mod

[PJ.]

Exactly, thank you shea. I was never with MG.

I was just throwing the Liu Kang thing as a point to grasp for any takers. For now, My thoughts of you are pro town, as the post said.

[PJ.]

Well, consistency. Better to be wrong then inconsistent. Another reason is because PBuG case in a nutshell is how I am connected with MG and CoG which he pushes with fluff and terrible arguement. I still feel he is scum. I'd bet my life on it.

[PJ.]

Grats, you follow good logic. I agree it simply because PBuG's terrible logic is a case in and of itself.

[PJ.]

Nothing you have said beside my connection to CoG during the TSQ is faking as an Alarm Clock thing. Everything else has been either False, terribly thought out, or both.

[PJ.]

Jingolaw brings up some good points, but again I haven't seem enough from TSQ to get a grasp. And would like his secrets to lay at the bottom of the sea for now, because I have a funny feeling they could be town. PBuG is still the scummiest

Vote:PBuG

[PJ.]

In regards to the stuff about Panzer from Elias. I was not fishing, I simply wanted answer that would give anything to anyone but satisfy me. I backed off when you guys said fishing an haven't mentioned it sense. I think that he has a false claim ready. The hammer was agreed upon. I clearly stated I will hammer when Elias put the vote down. Elias put down the vote. I hammered. Consistency, pro-town on every level.

[PJ.]

Hey, Skruffs. your vote count is

wrong

AWESOME!:D

. It says PBuG is at

2

when both Jingolaw and I are voting him.

You rock, MOD!

[PJ.]

EBWOP:

CoG: I said once Elias laid the vote, I would hammer. I did what I promised. I was under the impression that Elias would have my back if it came down to lynching me for hammering. Also, I don't like how you are clearing PBuG from having a kill role for not killing who he was voting or FoSing. That's basically saying you expect the Vig, Serial Killer or the Mafia to leave a trail of FoSes on who their night kills are. Wouldn't that draw suspicion? Even if he is a vig, which I'm pretty sure he isn't, I don't think he would kill where his FoSes were and his vote was in fear of leading the Mafia or SK to him. Vigs like to survive to kill night and night again. If you are gonna clear him, it shouldn't be based on his FoSes not being dead. It's like saying someone has to be a cop because they led a lynch on a player that was not town aligned.

[PJ.]

If you are looking at connections then TSQ would be a killer. He has strong connections to both Nai and IH. My only arguement is that I don't see any reason why there would be a connection between the dead and the killer. That is the scum's objective. Not be found out. So if they kill who could be rationally linked to them, wouldn't they be easy to find. Yes, this is wifom but still shouldn't clea anyone. Say you were scum and you killed me because people view us as connected. I'm protown. And you come out during day and say see "look guys I'm protown." I'm sure someone would be like, no. I know I'm using exetreme hypothetical situation but all I am trying to proove is that you can be scum no matter where the kills goes.

[PJ.]

Skruffs, Your a funny guy. I like what you did to my reminder.

[PJ.]

All he has been doing is telling us he is rereading. He did say he agreed with an MG lynch but that is the only thing off importance. I will join the wagon and

FoS:Bird

I think he is the best option outside of PBuG.

[PJ.]

Was that just flavor for bird leaving?

[PJ.]

Sweet on that note, let's get back to lynching PBuG shall we?

[PJ.]

Cpt, is new to online play. You have to Bold your votes Cpt.

[PJ.]

we did lose a lot

[PJ.]

Well in an effort to respark discussion and not let this game die.

Vote: CPT

for things that were lost and the above comment that was stupid a scummy to begin with.

[PJ.]

QFT and Bump

[PJ.]

I second that motion, elias. I would also like to know where TSQ has been actually helpful to the town. Don't get this wrong, I still believe TSQ is protown I just want this conversation to end quickly so we could get to the topic at hand. Can i please here some thoughts on CPT. Fantasic and a rational explanation of why only CoG and I are voting him.

[PJ.]

Fircoal, have you gotten asround to telling us why I am scummy?

[PJ.]

I ignored your posts because they were WRONG. Anyone who wants to go back and re-read day 1 will tell you that I contributed as much as anyone.

I don't like this post, but I think TSQ was successful in contributing under a post restriction. I don't feel you should ignore one's post because they are "wrong". You should tell them they are wrong with evidence of why like you have done now.

[PJ.]

Agreed, CoG. I find that you are correct and will concur with a

Unvote, Vote:TSQ

. I never thought about that. I was still thinking in terms of post restriction. I believe he is hindering the town with all of this crap about his contribution under his FALSE post restriction.

[PJ.]

Alright Sefer whatever you say, you can say whatever you want about me but you linking on to TSQ is just bad for your health. PBuG, your desperate to lynch me and have no idea what your talking about.

[PJ.]

Haha, PBuG is scumbuddies with him, you either just hammahed to clear your name cause he is scum with you or you just hammahed a townie to say see we're not scumbuddies. Either way your scum.

[PJ.]

Honestly, though you appealed to emotion. PBuG please bus your buddy correctly.

[PJ.]

EBWOP: I didn't read the rest of page 16..so disregard the second comment about him bussing his buddy incorrectly.

[PJ.]

TSQ, please explain how I am scum, I have heard I am scum from 4 people and none gave me a sufficient reason.

[PJ.]

PBuG, Sufficient was the key word.

[PJ.]

Why didn't the scum kill TSQ, maybe he is one of those roles that is town but then becomes scum, i think it's called a judah, but thatisn't very normal game. I'm very interested to why TSQ didn't die last night. CoG, could you explain any of this to me?

[PJ.]

I have a feeling that doc or pro-town RB hit the right person. TSQ claimed that he was protown and doesn't die on the first kill no matter what it is but it's a one time thing. He is probably nuetral survivor not pro-town. I can see how he could be protown and i can see how he could be neutral.

[PJ.]

PBuG is my number 1 suspect as well. I still believe we should think about him being survivor but honestly the time he will matter if he is survivor is when we are stuck close to deadline without a lynch, we lynch TSQ and if he is survivor all we do is lose a neutral. I'm looking forward to CoG's posting on me, and I will

Vote:PBuG

[PJ.]

I know, said you were scum in quote TSQ. I simply suggested that you could be, same as I suggested you are a neutral. There are many roles that don't die the first time, and I weeded most of them out due to this being a normal game. I currently belive that you are a neutral survivor.

Anyway, I like CoG's assement of me, because I view this as one of those logic puzzles where you have people and clues and you X everyone of that the clue can't possibly fit.

Anyway, Cpt I would like "evidence" to why you accused CoG of being scum when I believe he is the most town person. Elias is up there as well. I am growing more and more aware of jingolaw's scummness.

Jingo, I would like you to answer this before you even think about anything else. How am I scum and How am I remotely related to PBuG?

[PJ.]

I'm feeling a PBuG-Fircoal scum group. CoGs biggest link is to me so if CoG is buddies it's with me. And let's just put it this way, "I Know I'm Clean." I'll hold my vote on PBuG.

[PJ.]

Haha, PBuG is scumbuddies with him, you either just hammahed to clear your name cause he is scum with you or you just hammahed a townie to say see we're not scumbuddies. Either way your scum.

I'm still following this line of thought on PBuG.

[PJ.]

I don't buy either.

[PJ.]

Does anyone else like or dislike the claim?

[PJ.]

I like the

FoS:Jingolaw

idea cause that whole post was scumtastical

[PJ.]

Yeah, when even the convoluted PBuG say you are scummy when you are actually acting scummy that says something,

Unvote.Vote:Jingolaw

[PJ.]

I second that motion.

[PJ.]

Mod:

Vote Count please.

[PJ.]

Um, At this point I think either PBuG is scum or Jingo is scum, and I'd like a claim from jingo, and why do I look scummy now, because I'm on to you? If one is SK i believe the other is scum but if one is scum and the other is not SK then he is town. Either way Fircoal and TSQ should decide who they want to hang.

[PJ.]

Alright well, TSQ, what do you think of a PBuG lynch because I'm impartial because I think PBuG is scum and Jingolaw is SK.

[PJ.]

Well, I've never ever been a fan of claiming vanilla even if it's true. And like i said I believe it's a BS claim and jingo and PBuG are at least 50% scum so wanna lynch PBuG TSQ?

Unvote

[PJ.]

beat me to it

Vote:PBuG

[PJ.]

I'm going to preliminary

Vote:Jingolaw

because he is the most scummy

[PJ.]

umm, Alright wanna see my defense to that?

If MG comes up town one shot vig, PBuG will almost be certified Serial Killer in my book. I don't think there is a chance in hell that they are the same alignment.

Quote is from day 1, I'm surprised I let him live longer then day 2. And to my defense I was on him most of day 2.

[PJ.]

*_*_*_* Vote Count - 6:20:11 AM *_*_*_*

""I don't know what it is That makes me feel alive
I don't know how to wake The things that sleep inside
I only wanna see the light That shines behind your eyes" ~ Oasis

Jingolaw -1- (Panzerjager)
Panzerjager -1- (Jingolaw)
Not voting -4- (Fircoal, Elias_The_Thief, Cpt_Fantastic, CoG888)

With 6 alive, it takes

4

to lynch.
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I find it funny Jingo is not saying anything about you after ,just a week ago, thinking you were scum. I also don't like his vote on me because there is abosolutely no reason for it other then I placed it quickly. He never offered a defense to us thinking he was at all summy. He accused me of being linked with PBuG when it's apparent to everyone in this game that the only person I've been remotely to is CoG. After that the thing I'm connected to is logic.

After TSQ came was revived, He immediately came off him which is suspicious because he was so convinced that TSQ was scum before the revival. So why would someone completely switch their opinion on someone without looking at any other possibilities? Because they don't want attention. Why would someone want to defuse the attention on them? Because he is scum and that's what he is doing now. He is using your suspicions of me to get the suspicion of him.

Another cute thing I noticed, He said that he assumed that PBuG is trying to win by nailing a townie after PBuG clearly stated "If I were SK I'd be aiming for mafia." The guy doesn't seem to be following along quite well, which to me is scummy. Why would someone who isn't scummy miss something on his suspect? He is lynching people on halfassed suspicions which is only good to do as scum.

[PJ.]

Me and CoG have shared logic through the entirity of the game which makes me believe people think thats where the connection is. I have no other links Jingo, at all. I have defend against those accusations already.

Right now my bet for scum is Jingo along with CPT.Fantastic. Most of why I think CPT. is scum was lost in the crash and he has resorted to lurking and laying very low.

Your defense mean very little because they were as convoluted as you think my accusations are. Answer me this: Why exactly is you case on me? Is it that I'm aggresive and I made "bad" accusations toward you? That happens to be all I see. And Have you completed a reread or did you just see my vote and start from there? My bet is on the second and that you'll say the first, but thats just me.

[PJ.]

Actually, no because I had a very strong vibe with him as scum and I have simply been thinking on similar lines with you not following you, I believe I got to PBuG is SK before anyone did. I got there Day 1. Later interactions with players led me to believe he was scum but I was right from the beginning. And please explain how this is a good case.

I simply thought the way Jingo had been acting was scummy. And I don't like how YOU are going along with him on a weak case. You are suspicious of me because I had no motive to vote Jingo? Is it a motive that makes you less scummy or more? Jingo has been playing with an agenda, thats why I have my vote on him and he has my vote on me because I opened Day 4 with a vote.

[PJ.]

How about you say something more? Isn't this concerning your thoughts on my scumminess?

[PJ.]

What do you mean what was I doing with him last night. Is that a tracker claim? And I was roleblocking him thinking he could be a godfather. I Roleblocked PBuG Night 2. And Ripley Night 1 which is now CPT. Fantastic.

[PJ.]

I don't know man. All I know is I blocked PBuG night 2. and I pretty sure I blocked Ripley Night 1. I don't know what happeneed to you night 1.

[PJ.]

I delete My PMs. And I am positive I didn't block CoG. I blocked Ripley.

[PJ.]

I am in Agreement.

[PJ.]

Mod: Replace CPT please. He just voted for a dead guy and claimed he knew what he was doing.

[PJ.]

Wait until you get your role to act scummy.

[PJ.]

why would you come out saying your supposed alignment. Are you paranoid?

Unvote, Major FoS

I suggest you be very careful because fircoal didn't leave on the most town note.

[PJ.]

His original post screamed scum and then after i called him out on it he calls out i'm town. The being town is assumed. For some reason he felt the need to claim town which is ridiculous. No votes were on him. He then tries to play it off. I dislike his play and he has been here for 3 post. It's sounds like nervous scum to me.

[PJ.]

Guardian, I claimed three. You are very bad a reading but CoG only claimed two. Kudos for catching that. I think CF is a newbie lynch. I am suspicious of the person you pick is the newbie in his first game. He simply is a newbie, which is a null tell. He could be bad scum or bad town.

[PJ.]

Hey, Jack. Anyway, I think Guardian and Jack are the scum pair. This seems like major distancing from Guardian.

Guardian I claimed the block on Jack Day 1 who was Ripley then and Day 2 block on Pbug with the Day 3 being the claim by CoG telling me I blocked TSQ, which I did. Guardian all this talk about Jack being the most scum screams that he got caught in the act and thats why Jack threw in that part about me throwing punchs at guardian. He's knows.

And screenshots of my PM box are coming if Skruffs allows it.

[PJ.]

True, Both he and Jack are twisting facts thusly are scum.

[PJ.]

Why does it matter? If I'm a mislynch everything learned from the mass claim is wasted. Is your mass claim assuming I'm scum Guardian?

Alright now the logic I have deviated from as of late. I'm still alive. Elias is probably a doc or power role, I'm Townie roleblocker, Guardian is vanilla townie
Jack is Mafia, Jingolaw is mafia, and CoG is townie tracker as we said already.

Jack comes in jumps on the biggest bandwagon and with gusto, opposing guardian because of guardian's lack of intiative in lynching me. Why does he want to lynch me so bad? So it is game over. Remember Jack was CPT.Fantastic / Ripley.

Jingolaw has acted proscum all game. He OMGUS me for a quick vote on the 4th day. That was his reasoning. CoG pretended to follow it but in the end was suspicious of me because of his trackerness..Guys we can win this right now..Kill Jingolaw or jack we RB the other and lynch..

Vote:Jingolaw

[PJ.]

I am the dog. I am reckless. I can step on things and knock things over and acciently flip switchs on and off stoping things from doing anything for the night.

[PJ.]

ok

[PJ.]

Look at my post. Never once did I say I thought he was town after he was lynched and revived. I suggested either he was survivor or Godfather. I never accepted him as an innocent townie. I was wrong. I apoligize. That is why I blocked him. So saying that everyone else was like he is plain town doesn't mean I did. I have run in to more Pro-scum/Neutral reviving roles then I have Pro-town ones.

Right now I think the scum pair is either Jack and Jingolaw, or Elias and Guardian.

Jack and jingolaw for being overly aggresive and not really adhering to reason and Elias and Guardian for elias being lurkish and just trying to stay out of the way and Guardian for just numerous scum tells although out his existence and his predecessors.

[PJ.]

Hmm. I did a re-read, and I can't see Panzer being pro-town.

vote: Panzerjagger

.

Suspecting me and Elias as a scum pair did it for me; if Elias and I are a scum pair, then we would have lynched Panzer already, gotten off a night kill, and won.

I agree that Panzer is the lynch now... on to the final day.

That right there is why you ARE scum. You are OMGUS voting me. What from your reread do you find me scummy. I think you are lying about your reread and telling everyone that I'm scummy but your only "arguement" is that I suspect you. Right now I don't care who you're scum partner is. It is obvious that you are scum. And I will be blocking either Elias or Jingolaw, depending on the activity of Elias. His lurking at this portion of the game scares me.

Anyone wanting a PBPA can ask for it and it will come.

I would also like other people's reactions of Guardian's comment.

[PJ.]

Guardian, That wasn't the question. Stop squirming. What did you learn from the reread?

[PJ.]

Are you joking me dude? You're are totally BSing now. How did your reread make me condemable scum. And i'd appreciate if you'd stop repeating that you have to be scum with me and answer the question. To me are a impatient scum wanting to see me lynched now.

[PJ.]

No, I would like you to stop being evasive.

[PJ.]

Unvote, Vote:Guardian

Forgot that part

[PJ.]

Guardian, hard evidence. Answer my previous question.

[PJ.]

Who looks more like scum in this situation? The one who is squirming or the one who is asking reasonable questions? Guardian looks like pressurized scum to me.

[PJ.]

Now the insult come flying out. You have still failed to address the point. Why am I scum. You have never given any reason at all as to why I am scum. Why haven't you addressed that? My guess is that yound nothing because I have followed logic the entirety of the game. You should be lynched today and then us townies can lynch your buddy tomorrow.

Admit it you got caught. You didn't want to hammer because there is good possibility of a doc and if he proctect the right guy you'd be fucked. That's why you wanted to mass claim so you could find the doctor, hammer me, and then kill doctor at night. With the RB lynched and Doctor in the open, you and your scum buddy would be in the clear. That is why you didn't hammer me, not because you were unsure.

So either give me evidence or lay down and die scum.

P.S Both scum are on my wagon.

[PJ.]

Guardian, Why can't you give me a straight answer? What makes you think I'm scum. You keep saying "YOU'RE SCUM YOU'RE SCUM YOU'RE SCUM." Why am I scum? Give me an answer Guardian.

Same goes to you Jingolaw. Why? You have not posted anything other the because I voted you very quickly to start the day and the CoG came out that he's a tracker.

Neither of you have pointed why I am scum. I have not seen any viable reasons to why I am scum from either of you.

[PJ.]

I mean you have said you have re-read and re-read and re-read. Why can't you tell me what you found on the last one that condemned me. That is all I want to know.

For The record, he said re-read 21 times since he has been here. He also claimed he re-read about 13 times(different things mind you) before he called me scum.

And I was roleblocking him thinking he could be a godfather.

Wow, I am dense. PJ, no need to go quote this for me. It still doesn't make you town...

But my supposed "catches" on the re-read were non-existent.

Cog, so you are saying that PJ is mafia, and that someone else is the mafia roleblocker? That is plausible, but not necessarily true.

If we mislynch here, we lose, I don't think getting role information is a bad idea.

That is 7 post before he calls me condemnable. Within thos 7 post he pushes a mass claim and also pushes that I am a townie RB and that THERE IS a mafia role blocker. He was very adament about this. Which is contradictory with the second bolded statement. And I don't believe CoG every stated that. He is just putting words in his mouth.

I will further make a case if requested by somebody.

[PJ.]

But, you are wary. Doctor protects. 3-2 they lynch you after mislynching me 3-1 night kill. 2-1. They lynch your scumbuddy. Town win. This game is far from over.

[PJ.]

Guardian, you are squirming, WIFOMing, and digging yourself into a deeper and deeper hole. The only way you will convince me that you are not scum is if you tell me what you found in your umptenth re-read, that condemned me.

[PJ.]

*_*_*_* Vote Count - 6:25 AM *_*_*_*

"There is more refreshment and stimulation in a nap, even of the briefest, than in all the alcohol ever distilled.”

~ Ovid

Panzerjager -2- (Jingolaw, Jack)
Guardian -2- (Panzerjager, Cog888)
Not voting -2- (Elias_The_Thief, Guardian)

With 6 alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Edited after Panzer noticed an error. Sorry!
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He sees that the road under my wagon is getting bumpy; jumps off and then tries to flip pressure onto Jack and Jingolaw. He also continually adds that there is no reason for me to suspect him? Almost everything you have done has scum written all over it. I don't have a clue who your scum buddy is, because Elias seems pretty straight and you seem far to willing to want to push pressure on Jingo and Jack. My guess is that most likely the partner is Jack because of you adding extra emphasis to him as a distancing tactic, although Jingo is a good candidate as well.

Gyardian, You have claimed you have read and re-read several times and then claimed to have condeming evidence that I am scum, yet you haven't given any other then OMGUS. You were totallly into lynching me for an absolutely terrible reason. Why? I believe it is because you have been caught trying to look too townie and stumbled over your self when I put pressure on you. Why can't you give any of us evidence? You are simply frustrated scum.

Confirm Vote:Guardian

[PJ.]

Please quote my "role fishes" and explain why there is only 1 power role dead if I am infact scum and did infact "role fish". I quick hammered MG because I figured he was either lying scum or a good lynch that would satisfy my desire to lynch who I thought was the SK and actually was the SK, PBuG.

And you can't tell me there is only 2 power roles in this game. The only thing about my claim that you can find remotely weird is CoG being RBed day 1.

[PJ.]

Yeah, I hammered and when you voted and that was the reason I gave. My motive behind doing that was the above. What I gave before was an excuse because if I was wrong about PBuG I would've been dead. I told everyone I'd hammer after Elias voted and did based on what I was thinking. People leave out thoughts of their post on purpose. The motive is what you are supposed to be guessing. My motive was seeing if PBuG was scum. It worked. He was.

I was saying he was the damned SK. I don't think that counts as rolefishing when you are trying to get the SK to fuss up, but so be it. I wanted a claim from jingo because he has been ridiculously scummy and has shut up due to no pressure being on him. Still hasn't provided solid reason to vote me, along with Guardian.

Do you realize I'm about to be lynched on a smiddgen away from absolutely no evidence. Town is about to lynch someone in just about Lylo. Realize 1 person on my wagon has any current evidence on me. Most of your evidence(Elias) is from Day 1 when you thought I was town.

Mod: Guardian Unvoted me on the last post of page 25

[PJ.]

Well I mean...you did get yourself lynched

lol, QFT

[PJ.]

where's my props?

[PJ.]

You refuse to give be props because I got you lynched

[PJ.]

I convinced the tracker who say me at TSQ's stabbing him in the face that you were more scum then I was.

And out of curiosity, what did you find in your re read? Did you even re read?

[PJ.]

But you didn't. And Jack could have always decided it was to hairy and counterclaimed me.

[PJ.]

Thank you jingo. I'm eager to hear from CoG and Shea.

[PJ.]

I didn't think you had a power role. I was very clearly thinking Elias was doc and you were probably some sort of vanilla. So I figured we'd roleblock one and kill the other thinking one of you was doc. I didn't expect a watcher, tracker, and hider.

[PJ.]

I was more worried about staying covered then capping power roles at that point. I wasn't ever going to cap you, people felt you were far too pro-town and I figured if I kept placing myself well your your eyes I'd be set. Most people that died were urgent manners or speed bumps. Shea for example would have been a speed bump, as would have IH. Sefer was a matter of urgency because I thought he could kill me.

[PJ.]

Oh well. I really enjoyed playing, and I congradulate Panzerjager, Jack, Cpt_Fantastic, and Ripley on their success

lol