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I'd have expected the OMGUS to rest on the guy who put you at -1...and you hadn't mentioned the other things about Lawrence at all. Just strikes, me as odd, I guess.[/quote]Sir Tornado wrote:WeyounsLastChance clearly had a random vote.gorc wrote:Weyouns Last Chance (hereafter known to me as WLC)
Qman (OMGUS as Sir's random target)
pick (with playful paranoia over a bandwagon)
Lawrence (calling me the jester)
Yogurt (with no comment)
Qman's OMGUS, I can accept
pickemgenius was too blatant about his joining the bandwagon that I knew it was not a serious vote.
The next in line was Lawrencelot. I combined my OMGUS sentiment to the fact that he acted scummy the next two posts (called you a jester, voted for self) and cumulated that with a vote on him.
My reading goes like this:Da Rulz wrote: * The Townies win if and only if they lynch all Mafia and do not lynch a Jester. (The game ends when all Mafia have been lynched.)
* The Mafia win if and only if they equal or exceed the remaining non-Mafia in the game, or if nothing can prevent the same.
* The Jester wins if and only if they are lynched.
(Non-angry, strictly for emphasis italics ahead )Sir Tornado wrote:The question is, will the town risk it?Qman wrote:Mmm maybe Tornado, but the are also taking a huge risk at losing to a jester lynch when they can remove the threat of a loss through that manner immediately. I'll have to think about it some more, right now I'm straddlin the fence on this idea.
I won't.
I think his behavior since the claim locks it in. He hasn't tried to back off the claim at all.pickemgenius wrote:So I understandBOTH(he he italics) sides/arguments for the proposed idea of a no lynch, and I would just like to sayifLawrence lives through N1, that I wouldn't say he's100%scum, but I would almost for sure vote for him.
I'm gonna quote myself here- this is my by the numbers look at why No-Lynch is better than taking a chance that Lawrence is actually not the Jester.gorckat wrote:No-Lynch:
-Lawrence is NK'd: 7 townies, 2 scum
-Lawrence is not NK'd: 6 townies, 1 Jester, 2 (soon to be 1!) scum
Lynch hitting townie:
-Lawrence is NK'd: 5 townies, 2 scum
-Lawrence is not NK'd: 5 townies, 2 (soon to be 1!) scum
Lynch hitting scum:
-Lawrence is NK'd: 7 townies, 1 scum
-Lawrence is not NK'd: Victory!
Lynch hitting Jester:
-Lose
In all cases, the best play for the scum is to pop the Jester at night, else they lose Day 2.
As long as you kill Lawrence, assuming he's not scum, then we're fine. As pick noted, and I've said over and over, if scum want to win, they kill Lawrence, else we lynch him tomorrow. If he's the Jester, everyone loses.Sir Tornado wrote:No lynch?
And, exactly where does the No-Lynch lead us to?
If we do not lynch anyone today, then what we do on day 2 would be more or less determined by the NK, which the scum controls.
Its not always bad. There are situations where it can be mathematically shown to be better.Lawrencelot wrote:FOS: gorckat and BM. No lynch is always bad, it's basically giving the game in the hands of the mafia. They can decide everything, and especially the start of teh game is important, because there is not enough information.
Vote: gorckat
I thought Sir Tornado was "most likely" to be your partner. I've also FoSed JDodge.Lawrencelot wrote:Vote: gorckat. (I thought Sir T was my partner?) If we had lynched scum, the townies wouldn't be at a disadvantage now. There were enough people of who it was rather sure they're not jester, so if you lynched a probable scum that's not jester town would have more chance.
I'll answer since you didn't exclude me.Sir Tornado wrote:I still stick to my day 2 opinion.
Gorckat and Lawrencelot are the scum. I can't believe half the town decided to buy gorckat's No-Lynch yesterday. Can we lynch him or Lawrencelot today please?
Now, here is my questions to those who no-lynched yesterday:
1) Why did you no lynch?
2) Are the reasons you no-lynched yesterday valid today too?
3) If they are, then what was the point in no-lynching yesterday?
This is precisely the reason why I hate no-lynches
The point that he claimed Jester/Scum still stands, though. That's when I started after him.Battle Mage wrote:In you coming up scum, Lawrence would have looked town, in the way that you set him up for a lynch.
I only mentioned the Jester bit because it was a minor point yesterday.JDodge wrote:I don't want a gorckat lynch. He's either Jester or town.
I thought that, too, which is why I pointed out ST first voted Lawrence, when yesterday he wanted me. I know he said he thought about the plan, but his second post today seems like he hadn't fully reconciled his agreement with the No-Lynch.WeyounsLastClone wrote:The way I see it now is that Lawrencelot and Sir Tornado have set up this whole scheme of sacrificing Lawrencelot, so Sir Tornado sees it through to the end. But maybe I'm wrong and I have to step back from that idea, and refresh my ideas. Any comments on this suggestion would be welcome though.