Shhh, you'll give the game away! We just started!Patrick wrote:Also, Ripley and Teffc both have rabbit type avatars. Possible connection? You can add that to your notes Ripley, and congratulate me after the game.
LIESPara wrote:Vote: Ripley for not voting
A scumtell older than the game itself
I have been in games with Patrick as scum!Ripley wrote:Unfortunately I have to confirm that in all the games I've completed with him Patrick has been pro-town. I'm not quite sure how he manages this. These games include the previous Pie C9, where we managed to have a Day 1 that lasted for 2 months and contained almost no useful content. The whole of the game really happened on Day 2. I believe Patrick was in another Pie C9 before that one, too, so if anyone has anything useful to say about the setup it's probably him.
I have also been his scumbuddy!
Jordan wrote:I really hope that wasn't a badly premature cop claim.
That, or he may be the roleblocker we're looking for.
You fisher of Roles!
Open=normal=SaneJordan wrote:There's nothing on the mods posts that mention the Cops sanity. And I'm trying to get a bit of meaningful discussion going, suppose you could say I achieved it. Rather noobish I'll admit, guess you have to learn from mistakes though.
Of course some games have a cop head start, don't they? In other words night for cop, day for everyone else.Ripley wrote:One thing in Jordan's favor in all this is that if he were scum he'd have been more likely to be aware that the game didn't start with night. I mean, wouldn't you remember that you hadn't tried to kill anybody yet? I keep wondering whether there's some flaw in this argument, since nobody else (including Jordan) has mentioned it. Hmmm - maybe you might forget, especially if you were in a few games that had started around the same time; it's very easy to confuse them in the first pages.
It fits wishy washy scum, trying to unsubstantiate a player for no reason = )Ripley wrote:How does the roleblocker comment fit in with the "jumpy scum fearing a cop result" theory? Maybe I'm trying too hard here to find logical reasoning behind a panicky post. I really don't know.
Also it is almost a loaded question.
Either Simenon is the cop,or he is scum.
Para wrote:These attacks on Jordan are justified, but have have yet to convince anyone(I hope) that Jordan is a worthy day 1 lynch
On the other hand I'm finding Simenon's play extremely suspicious. You keep suggesting that you have reasons for your original vote against Jordan, and I don't buy that. And I definitely don't believe that you've actually somehow posted your reasons.
You're definitely looking alot worse than Jordan to me
Vote: Simenon
How does this even make sense.Jordan wrote:If I were scum, there'd only be 1 other mafia, but I've only had 2 votes and 1 FOS so far.
I WANNA SEE IT DANGITSimenon wrote:It's a highly debatable tell- now that there are other, more valid reasons for voting jordan, it would lead to an unecessary slap-fight.
I don't like post 107
WIFOM WIFOM WIFOMJordan wrote:If that isn't flawed logic, I don't know what is, why on Earth would I try outing myself and my buddy like that, I'm a newbie, but I'm not stupid. Vote: Patrick
TO stop this distracting conversation.Simenon wrote:Nah. I <3 my Ripley.
:shrug:, I don't remember disagreeing with you much in the two or so games we played together.
I feel the distraction would lie in what I say. As I have said, my former reasoning is completely irrelevant, and could be used by ze opportunistic scum. Since there is no scummy aspect about my previous thinking, I don't feel obliged to disclose it.
What I see is an attempt to make a big ado about nothing. Let's not exaggerate the seriousness of this- I voted without an originally posted reason, because something turned me off, and jordan was wonderful (let's give him a hand) and provided me with another reason to vote him.
So, I ask for those who are voting me for this- what exactly could I accomplish as scum by refusing to disclose my reasoning and what exactly is scummy about me doing so?
Also, I want to see what is so controversial it would start a slap fight, possible miles away from each other. (GLoves in the mail?)
SECRET SCUMTELLS SUCK = |
I hate post 122
Jordan does not know what appeal to emotion means. = )
Jordan's argument with simenon..... ugh, it hurts me to read his responses.....
HINT:Not simenon's
I also have noticed this.Ripley wrote:Paradoxombie continues to focus exclusively on Simenon's refusal to divulge his original scumtell on Jordan. I don't understand why this is such a huge issue. Simenon originally voted Jordan when all Jordan had done was random vote with a dice roll. He's probably prolonging the whole thing because it amuses him to be awkward.
While part of this seems to make sense, it really doesn't that much. Pretty much the only reason I want him to answer is to stop distracting from other things. This is like attacking someone for a random vote. Seriously, he has other reasons, and it wasn't like he was trying to hide them at first, but only after he has a better reason. It looks more like a null tell, as he's already said it;s irrelevant, which means he's not using it against him anymore.Para wrote:I don't see what significance his motive has, he says a piece of information is meaningless and not suspicious and yet refuses to tell us for what seems like no reason.
FOS: Patrick and Ripley
Neither of you haven't mentioned any flaws in my reasoning, so i don't understand what difference it makes.
Somthing doesn't make sense about Simenon and you just want to drop it? What possible reason could you have to want that? You think it's distracting? How about you convince Simenon to just come clean and explain himself? Wouldn't that be a more protown resolution than me just stopping, regardless of the significance of the issue?
Also, the biggest flaw in your reasoning is that you WON'T LOOK AT ANYONE ELSE. While jordan scum scrambles, you unsubstantiate another player.
dude.
after ALL that.....
seriously. This was stupid.Paradox wrote:cool.
Slightly. She only seems to post whenever she gets mentioned.
Why? Why do you think they are scum?Jordan wrote:I'm almost certain one of Sim or Patrick is scum, if I had to guess, I'd guess Sim. For their partner, I think another experienced player, one who has decided to not vote for me for precisly the reason stated above, in fact, I think that's another point against Sim, trying to communicate in thread maybe? I know I'm not a scum, so, I'm going to Vote: Sim.
So.... what do you think about him? Scummy or town?Aimee wrote:Panicked early and for no real reason when Simenon said he had reason to believe he was scum. Obviously doesn't pay much attention, because then he asks about the sanity of cops. Unnecessary if the front post was read. But does that point to Mafia or Town? It points mainly to stupidity. His reasons for the cop thing amount entirely to WIFOM, and he also says rather bizarrely that Simenon could be a roleblocker, which doesn't really solve anything. His explanations seem to be "oopsie, I'm a newbie!", which don't really explain anything, really. Overall, looking very defensive at the moment. Some rash votes have also occurred, mainly his vote against Simenon on post 123.
Same thing? Do you think he's being scummy, or being Patrick? TO uncomittal.Aimee wrote:Patrick: Whilst Jordan's immediate panic was suspicion, I feel that Patrick jumped on slightly too strong onto Jordan. Despite this, his points are clear and well made, and identifies flaws in Jordan's points (e.g. WIFOM). Typical Patrick, really. Patrick was also probably the strongest jumper onto Jordan.
Same thing with all of them actually. You never actually commit to ANYTHING much here.....
QF effin T (Sweet, I found a way to do it)Simenon wrote:I think this post contains too much flourish and empty summary and too little actual analysis.
Bleh, I've been Sanarth'd like three times.
Also Jordan, I know what you're response is going to be I think.
"Look, see I told you" in an omgus-ee style.