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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:27 am

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In post 1723, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1721, Doctor Who wrote:
In post 1695, Green Crayons wrote:@BBT: If ika is town, it means he was lying and trying to get reactions.


GC, I had you figured as strong town up until you decided to start defending ika.

I believe in this: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... _All_Liars

ika lied, you can't be VT and have a night action.

Not seeing a scum slip =/= defending that player.


I agree with your inequality, but ika hasn't posted squat about his night actions vs. vanilla townie and this allowed him the chance to say "I was lying to get reactions."

Would you lynch ika if it came down to lynching him or missing the deadline?
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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:33 am

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if my myslynch results in lynching titus tommorow if shes alive im all for it
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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:30 am

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Not saying I disagree with Titus possibly being scum, but how would your mislynch implicate them at all?
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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:49 am

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if shes not dead tommorow that is....

shes forced to watch the mason as i already stated so we have an ic.

if the mason dies and she claims ninja shananigns, i would call BS
if she dies we have mason going into lylo
any kills outside of that is just a huge set of WIFOM and suboptimal play
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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:10 am

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Suboptimal for whom?
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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:19 am

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scums.

me being a player who love to make so much wifom and so little sense know what i would be doing if i was scum in this situation for the nk.

the fact titus is trying to stop my myslynch is humorous and makes me want to do it all the more
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:46 am

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1 mason being alive in a 7 person LYLO situation is not exactly a big deal for scum.
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:47 am

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In post 1731, Green Crayons wrote:1 mason being alive in a 7 person LYLO situation is not exactly a big deal for scum.


better then 7p lylo with all unconfirmed?
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:48 am

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you myslynching me or no?
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:52 am

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In post 1724, Doctor Who wrote:This happened when I first replaced in and had just starting was reading the thread. Something seemed off, which is why I posted about it.

Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:17 pm <-started reading thread
Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:54 pm <- my post 1429, where I was confused. I had gotten through 210 posts in about 38 minutes. I am a slow reader.

That's great that you got something out one part of that post, the post as a whole didn't make sense to me. Ever get that feeling that you are missing something?

I know that's when you encountered that particular exchange between DT and Egg. I also encountered it after I replaced in and started reading the thread. However, even though we (supposedly) have the same role, the part of DT's question which specifically invoked our dealer flavor didn't ring any bells to you?

Also, I specifically asked you if you got anything out of any of the three questions DT asked Egg (, , and ). That includes DT's question about counting cards or hacking machines. I understand that you have repeatedly said that the entire post didn't make sense to you, but you specifically rejected the idea that any single question -- including the one that referenced our VT flavor -- made sense to you.

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Also, as an aside, it has not escaped my attention that Titus (1) was able to refence VT flavor in her veiled questions to Egg, (2) despite the fact that Titus does not have a VT Dealer rote, and (3) Titus has been the player pushing the possibility that scum would have gotten the VT flavor to have a safe claim.
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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:53 am

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In post 1732, ika wrote:
In post 1731, Green Crayons wrote:1 mason being alive in a 7 person LYLO situation is not exactly a big deal for scum.


better then 7p lylo with all unconfirmed?

Maybe, depending upon how killing someone outside of the watcher/mason duo plays out in terms of WIFOM and momentum the following day.

And, no, I'm not voting you. I'm voting nati and so should you.
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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:54 am

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In post 1597, Titus wrote:
In post 1570, Doctor Who wrote:I messed up.

I thought the person who was making a bid deal out of VT was also the person who claimed watcher.

My bad.

Titus - There are dealers, game operation managers, and a dual-rate floor manager. What are you?


Floor Manager I believe. I watch over the card tables for cheating.

In post 1678, Titus wrote:Yes. Floor Manager. Even Night Tracker. Odd Night Watcher.


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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:00 am

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lol I don't know anything about casinos.

Do floor managers oversee the card tables or something?
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:02 am

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Also what is this "Floor Manager
I believe
" bit in ? Like, she wasn't certain that's what her role PM said, or she wasn't certain if that's how her role PM would fit into Doctor Who's three types of casino employees?
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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:04 am

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In post 1734, Green Crayons wrote:I know that's when you encountered that particular exchange between DT and Egg. I also encountered it after I replaced in and started reading the thread. However, even though we (supposedly) have the same role, the part of DT's question which specifically invoked our dealer flavor didn't ring any bells to you?

Also, I specifically asked you if you got anything out of any of the three questions DT asked Egg (, , and ). That includes DT's question about counting cards or hacking machines. I understand that you have repeatedly said that the entire post didn't make sense to you, but you specifically rejected the idea that any single question -- including the one that referenced our VT flavor -- made sense to you.


It didn't ring any bells for me. Isolating a portions of the post that I was confused about didn't help with my understanding. I had a lot to read up on, and figured that it would make itself known in due time. I also didn't pick up on shos softclaim. What is the point that you are trying to make out of this?
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:05 am

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i like how dr who has yet to say his "flavor" he jsut claimed VT
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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:11 am

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In post 1738, Green Crayons wrote:Also what is this "Floor Manager
I believe
" bit in ? Like, she wasn't certain that's what her role PM said, or she wasn't certain if that's how her role PM would fit into Doctor Who's three types of casino employees?


In post 0, Majiffy wrote:
Spoiler: Dead
Dr Pants, Dealer
VT
Lynched D1
Egg, Gaming Operations Manager,
JOAT (Active Bulletproof, Roleblock, Doctor, Rolecop)
Killed N1
theaceofspades, Dealer,
VT
Lynched D2
Aronis, Dual-Rate Floor Manager,
Mason
Killed N2



The "believe" part bugged me too, as does the fact that our mason was also a "Dual-Rate
Floor Manager
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DT (now Titus) egged our JOAT into claiming too. Pun intended.
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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:14 am

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im making anote to myself for futre games to just point out posts to people to dicuss, i find that it makes it easier
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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:17 am

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In post 1740, ika wrote:i like how dr who has yet to say his "flavor" he jsut claimed VT


Did you really ask that
Even though it is obvious?
Although this is ika so
Let's get serious:
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Really doesn't have night actions.
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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:24 am

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In post 1743, Doctor Who wrote:
Although this is ika so


you answered your own question TYVM
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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:38 am

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Green crayons is town.
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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:13 am

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In post 1730, ika wrote:scums.

me being a player who love to make so much wifom and so little sense know what i would be doing if i was scum in this situation for the nk.

the fact titus is trying to stop my myslynch is humorous and makes me want to do it all the more


I disagree that not killing Titus would be suboptimal play. I don't feel like going into more detail but I think that idea is objectively false.
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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:49 am

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In post 1728, ika wrote:if shes not dead tommorow that is....

shes forced to watch the mason as i already stated so we have an ic.

if the mason dies and she claims ninja shananigns, i would call BS
if she dies we have mason going into lylo
any kills outside of that is just a huge set of WIFOM and suboptimal play

Disagree with me being watched really.
If they want to kill me, let them. I am not cut out to be a mason. I won't be a great loss for my scum hunting. Take the chance of picking someone else.
I hate hate hate someone telling another role what to do, especially when I am voting for them as scum.
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:21 pm

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No, the play is the correct one. We force scums hand to not kill you and weaken the lynch pool. They either kill Titus which clears up any suspicion in that case, kill you to frame Titus (if they actually have a ninja), or kill someone else for the wifom of it all.
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:13 pm

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I'll get a VC up in a little bit methinks.
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