Robbery! At The Casino (Game Over)

shos · Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:32 am

In post 1481, Formerfish wrote:That isn't what I am saying. They are active in other games while they are ignoring this one. They have claimed a PR and I feel like they would, if town, want to come in here and reveal the information they had gained from last night. Also, killing a mason over a watcher doesn't make sense to me.

masons are always a problem for scum. you have two choices: one is kill them early, and the other is leave both alive for wifom of town. either way, it's a pros and cons, so that choice is not necessarily odd. Either the watcher claim is off, or the scum prefer to hit the masons first and try to avoid the watcher.

this should be something we remember to take a look at but for now this is useless.

<I know it's taking me LONG to make this read, I'm kinda battling loads of stuff irl right now>

Titus · Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:47 am

In post 1600, shos wrote:
In post 1481, Formerfish wrote:That isn't what I am saying. They are active in other games while they are ignoring this one. They have claimed a PR and I feel like they would, if town, want to come in here and reveal the information they had gained from last night. Also, killing a mason over a watcher doesn't make sense to me.

masons are always a problem for scum. you have two choices: one is kill them early, and the other is leave both alive for wifom of town. either way, it's a pros and cons, so that choice is not necessarily odd. Either the watcher claim is off, or the scum prefer to hit the masons first and try to avoid the watcher.

this should be something we remember to take a look at but for now this is useless.

<I know it's taking me LONG to make this read, I'm kinda battling loads of stuff irl right now>

Scum have ninja.

shos · Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:48 am

In post 1484, ika wrote:you also should of noted she claimed oddnight iirc?

also the odd night really matters, because no reason to kill an oddnight PR on an even night.

pedit: scum may have only 1-shot ninja, this is very common.

Titus · Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:51 am

Shos you can die.

Can we get a VC?

shos · Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:04 am

In post 1484, ika wrote:you also should of noted she claimed oddnight iirc?

now why would I do that.
What's your opinion about massclaim?? I can practically confirm myself to everyone

shos · Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:08 am

In post 1484, ika wrote:you also should of noted she claimed oddnight iirc?

Alright if Titus is DV then basically I think they are scum. However, this might solve itself if he is not, since he will watch geraintm.
buttt if he is scum and geraintm dies and he gets a supposed guilty then it's still lylo so it's still fucked.

I support a massclaim and then rethink.

shos · Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:12 am

In post 1484, ika wrote:you also should of noted she claimed oddnight iirc?

In post 1597, Titus wrote:
In post 1570, Doctor Who wrote:I messed up.

I thought the person who was making a bid deal out of VT was also the person who claimed watcher.

My bad.

Titus - There are dealers, game operation managers, and a dual-rate floor manager. What are you?

Floor Manager I believe. I watch over the card tables for cheating.

you believe? how bout check your PM?

shos · Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:14 am

aight I'm done.
we need a massclaim here, a full massclaim including flavor and stuff. I would like to claim last, if possible, you will see that I can confirm myself so this shouldn't make you worry.

BBT is still town
ika is sadly town through beck
titus is super scum imo
geraintm is conftown.
Doctor Who and Grayons are people I'm not sure which slot replaced, lol. will check in a sec.

shos · Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:14 am

alright. FF and nati are null reads, or something near that. Despslot was town and therefore green crayons is too; Dr Who's slot is scum

Green Crayons · Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:22 am

I'm fine with a massclaim, I guess. 7 person LYLO would be lolbad.

Green Crayons · Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:23 am

In post 1587, ika wrote:b/c the irnory that GC votes BBT for being a scum but now sheeps him is really really stupid and scummy as hell

I was voting Nat before I was voting BBT, and my vote for BBT does not negate my continuing belief that Nat might be bored scum.

Titus · Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:31 am

In post 1604, shos wrote:
In post 1484, ika wrote:you also should of noted she claimed oddnight iirc?

now why would I do that.
What's your opinion about massclaim?? I can practically confirm myself to everyone

Then we can lynch you.

I am phone posting.

You feel so threatened by me and cannot kill me. So sad.

shos · Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:35 am

claims should include role, flavor, and past actions.
order of claims, imo:
1. Titus(already claimed, but better to have everything in one place)
2. Doctor Who (past grayfoxxx slot; this needs to be)
3-4. formerfish/natirasha
5. Green Crayons
6. BBT
7. ika (I think that by reading beck, everyone can agree to this)
8. shos(I can confirm myself, 99%. so I think this info should come after scum fakeclaim)
9. geraintm (already claimed and proved mason. for the sake of completeness)

pedit:
yes, you can. but what is your opinion on massclaim.?

Majiffy · Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:22 am

Been a bit busy offsite. Game's over, though, so now I can go back to my normal levels of not moderating this properly.

Majiffy · Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:22 am

THIS IS A VOTECOUNT LOL

ika (1): Shos, Doctor Who
BlueBloodedToffee (3): ika, Natirasha, geraintm
Green Crayons (2): Formerfish, Titus
Natirasha (2): Green Crayons, BlueBloodedToffee

Not Voting:
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 3 ends on Sunday, November 9 at 2:30 PM Eastern

Accuracy never guaranteed. But

probably

accurate.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:12 am

Look at that scummy wagon on me.

So scummy.

Let's lynch Ika or Nati.

shos · Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:29 am

No, maasclaim.

Formerfish · Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:54 am

I've already full claimed.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:56 am

Why do we need to mass-claim? Like, what are the benefits of it?

geraintm · Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:14 am

I am at a loss with this game, I am happy with some claims. I can't see how it would hurt town.

geraintm · Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:16 am

Well, the benefits seem to me that town is not getting far as we are, if we can get somewhere with mass claims then that,s better than current where town are just getting ru over.
Would probably get people involved in the game too, right now seems a fair bit of apathy.

Formerfish · Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:36 am

What do we lose with a mass claim? It seems like it would give us areas we could focus on a little more than we are able to now.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:40 am

Should I claim now?

Are we just claiming flavor or full role?

Doctor Who · Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:56 am

My main problem with a massclaim is that ika is pushing hard for it, and he is my top scumspect since he won't explain himself. I can't believe that a VT would have night actions.

On the other hand, this could be lylo if there are four scum. There was a JOAT which is a pretty darn powerful role. If so, then I think it would be a good time to claim now.

The mod did say something about lylo, I think.

shos · Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:58 am

we're claiming everything.
a massclaim would give us the advantage of setup analysis. we can then decide if DT/Titus' claim makes any sense. it also cannot hurt us too much because, well, we have a confirmed mason and a supposed watcher, so any PR claims can still survive, since scum have lots of targets.

pedit:
dr. who, please reread Beck's ISO, and try to meta beck. not ika, he is way too chaotic in both alignments and hard to discern alignment of. go for beck. he's town.