NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER
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a very quick count tells me 20 of those 26 mentions are in quotes, not new posts (one post is a constantly rehashed readslist I didn't include).
still don't agree one bit."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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In post 2220, PeregrineV wrote:In post 2217, TierShift wrote:In post 2199, PeregrineV wrote:
It seems like a continuation of the Slandaar read in 1961. The reasons seem to be the opposite of why I'm a scumread (863), but maybe he just hates people catching up or calling them catch-up posts.
Either way, seems upset about the Goodmorning vote and the reason behind it.
Never mentions Aeronaut previously except once, so doubt they are scum together.
I was talking in terms of townish-scummy, you don't need to describe what the post says.
I think it's scummish on the surface, but I'm not backchecking the links to check the allegations. So call it null, but I'll probably end up voting the Anen wagon since it;s the only counter to my own.
in fact pere even fucking says that he doesn't have an actual reason to think that anen is scum
the fuck you smoking muffin?"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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In post 2195, davesaz wrote:In post 2144, goodmorning wrote:
In post 2139, Slandaar wrote:In post 2127, goodmorning wrote:Why would I come into a fresh discussion with an agenda?
Is this a serious question?
Lets talk hypothetically; If you are scum do you think you would have an agenda while entering a fresh discussion?
I begin to see the problem here. One of us is wrong about my alignment. Hmmmmm.
The only agenda I have, as either alignment, is to figure things out.
I don't come into questioning intending anything else.
This does not quite ring true. Sure, maybe at a high level you're figuring things out, but that's not the only factor in deciding whether to enter a discussion and how. Scum can and do butt in when a townie is after their buddy, for example. Disrupting the questioning process is a way to help a buddy without openly defending them. So information gathering as the explanation for entering a discussion is really shallow.
Ibeganthe questioning process, so I'm really not sure where you're going with this.
In post 2208, PeregrineV wrote:In post 2063, Egg wrote:When I find a scum read early on Day 1
Perhaps a walk through the mind of Egg on how you arrived at a scum read on me.
In the interest of full disclosure, you voted me in post 24 before I ever entered the game, so am keenly interested in the process of how you "find a scum read".
OOH BURN
Why is Pere the leading wagon again?
Oh, I remember. It's because Thor said so.
In post 2235, Shiro wrote:gosh I am still on page 22 sorry people this will take longer than expected :/
and this keep going it was page 88 when I started DX
It's only going to get worse as deadline gets closer. Catching up as quickly as you possibly can is your only hopeEFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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I actually sort of think Muffin is Town now though, it's been a weird couple days.EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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I can't even remember what heph did and I'm too tired to check"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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In post 2207, PeregrineV wrote:In post 2059, Scripten wrote:This sounds like a town read. I suppose that makes sense. Do you think his pushes (discounting TSO) are worthwhile?
Does he have a non-TSO push? He seems to really like TSO for scum.
You appear to not understand my play.
Quite some time ago.
The Aeneninen wagon looked off.
perhaps they (the voters) don't know Aneninen, (or that will be a convenient excuse if, they are scum and, they need one)?
post link in thread. make it>>>>obvious<<<<688
Ask the guy with practically zero actual content on why the person he is voting is scum.... 963 1031
(get trolled or told to fuck off by arrogant scum/town) 1055
bang face on wall for very very long time.
Start looking -_- at every player in the game, because they let that fly....
bang face on wall for very very long time.
decide fuck it, he is clearly not actually playing on my team.
(choice: throw a tanty stamp feet and go silly, play what is left of the game, even if others dont want to)
return to investigating whether the Aneninen wagon is based on stuff I dont see, or whether there is scum in that there early wagon.
Does any of that make Anenenine town/scum?
Nope none of that was Anenenin doing scummy looking stuff, (indeed its me failing to see where people showed that (back then) which is the original problem)
On that wagon it is equally (near enough) plausible for me that scum will fake push a scum buddy with no real desire to get them lynched (not bussing just parking) as place to park your vote.
(esp if you have vote park meta...)
or they will fake push a towny, with no urgency to get them flipped either. This would be especially true if the other wagons were TvT. (or Tv(scum who is dead in the water and written off)
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In post 2215, PeregrineV wrote:In post 2189, AxleGreaser wrote:In post 501, PeregrineV wrote:4. Boonskiies- Probably scum
can you explain what came before here that made you think "probably scum"
to be clear I interpet that statement at that time to mean More likely than every body labelled less strongly, (its an early D1 read),
but I am interested in where it came from?
He had 11 posts. 1 had content (464). He also voted and unvoted 2 people, one of which he revotes.
The votes were RVS, 30&50
You 385 previously liked 49 (pretty sure I have said I even liked you liking that post)
Is Boon normally more contentful and thus you think for instance the stress of being scum is making him less so in this game?
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In post 2233, T S O wrote:Peregrine's jump on Anen is awful.
However, I still want Anen dead.
What do?
Can I upsize that?
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Tier, see my ISO. Actually, I don't think you responded to anything I posted about you.
Aneninen, that's twice you've dodged the question. Did you even consider heph's town meta, especially in large games, before calling the slot scum for lurking?
Pere wrote: If there are 2 scumteams, and Thor called it despite evidence to the contrary, Thor is either
1. Lucky town that got the setup right for reasons mortals will never fathom
2. Scum that already knows it
And you are voting him. So you actually ARE assuming two scum teams now? (Yes, I saw that you had a 3 and 4 option for one team, but you call him town in 3 and call 4 ridiculous and are voting him so...)
Pere on the Script vote wrote: And it wasn't a reaction test
I must have seriously misunderstood your reasoning for that vote then. Fair on the rest of that post by the way.
Pere wrote: Yes. I guess I gave out too much information.
How does my list compare you yours?[\quote]
Huh? Where in my post do you get that this is about the amount of information and not the amount of scum reads. And are you asking me to post a reads list?
Pere wrote: Perhaps a walk through the mind of Egg on how you arrived at a scum read on me.In the interest of full disclosure, you voted me in post 24 before I ever entered the game, so am keenly interested in the process of how you "find a scum read".
I know you admitted you don't read fully, but come on. I've covered my reasons for thinking you are scum and the original one is no longer one. That went away when Cho claimed neighbor forever ago.
Pere wrote: No, and no. How is anything I said exaggerated?[\quote]
You said if there are two teams, there is a 100% chance Thor is scum. It's a normal game, so you can't possibly know that without being his scumbuddy. That is exaggerating by definition.
Tier, no, I made a few points against you before that. And I'd agree with you about associatives if I voted you on that alone. However, I'm not voting you. I'm voting Pere.
Beast, my read on your slot is one of the most null of everyone in this game. Heph, a chronic lurker, did nothing. You've come in and done nothing just like anywhere else I've ever seen you. Why are you asking ffor reads on your slot? What do you think of Pere, Thor, and Aneninen?-
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In post 2243, T S O wrote:In post 2241, davesaz wrote:Hey, wait, it wasn't that bad after all. But I derped by jumping to conclusions anyway. lol
TSO -- youstillowe that case. I'm seriously considering sheeping onto your wagon for this reason.
I KNOW MY MOTIVATION IS SHOT TO SHIT TO DO IT BUT NOT DOING IT GIVES AXLE A REASON TO CALL ME SCUM
you are soooooooooooo kind. XXX. (but no babies)
returning to the actual game we are all meant to be playing.
What I need is rreason to vote your wagon.... remember the guy you want lynched because he is scum (yeah that one i need a reason if i am going to vote him)
PereV can vote your wagon as he looks likely to be lynched and if he is town he knows voting Anenine is 100% better than voting himself.
I need a reason.
In particular the reason i need to see is that Aennine has been scum all day.....
My towny theory for Anenines later game play is he was tilted by you + (others) scummily tunneling for crap all.
Thus to vote your wagon I need your reasons.... (from earlier)
Remember, play to win?
and you actually want your scum read lynched right?
Perhaps Garmr can give me some reasons Aenenien was scum earlier, when he first voted him ?-
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@Thor here's your reads list.
I think Thor and PV are both anti-town roles. SK and scum, or multiball, or whatever. Hell, maybe it's scum v. scum. It doesn't really matter. They're way to eager to cram up the thread with multiball bullshit nobody wants to read. It's apathetic and scummy.
TSO is scum till I hear his case on Anen.
Axle's filibuster tunnel is less scummy than Thor and PV because he comes off as less experienced. Null. I want to ask him for a reads list but I'm going to be completely honest, I probably wouldn't give it more than a passing glance.
Dave is scum for his poor sheeping of PV.
Goodmorning is town completely lost in the scale of the large. I sympathize.
Egg is hard town for keeping up with the game, and for overall strong scumhunting.
Muffin is town for his scumhunting.
Garmr is null because I haven't bothered to parse a single post of his yet.
@Thor who else do you want a read on?
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In post 2254, goodmorning wrote:In post 2195, davesaz wrote:In post 2144, goodmorning wrote:
The only agenda I have, as either alignment, is to figure things out.
I don't come into questioning intending anything else.
This does not quite ring true.Sure, maybe at a high level you're figuring things out, but that's not the only factor in deciding whether to enter a discussion and how. Scum can and do butt in when a townie is after their buddy, for example. Disrupting the questioning process is a way to help a buddy without openly defending them. So information gathering as the explanation for entering a discussion is really shallow.
Ibeganthe questioning process, so I'm really not sure where you're going with this.
You are saying things that are not true. (Unless it is true that you never have an agenda, do you really mean that?)
Why does this need to be explained?
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The bolded "he"... is that referring to Aneninen or TSO? I have trouble following your trains of thought.
Also, is Aneninenenineneninen town or scum in your opinion?One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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In post 2268, Muffin wrote:
The bolded "he"... is that referring to Aneninen or TSO? I have trouble following your trains of thought.
Also, is Aneninenenineneninen town or scum in your opinion?
While I think its clear, I can well understand the confusion, I often have to pedit my posts (before posting) to clarify stuff like that.
Spoiler: annotated version-
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bugger.
but if you are lazy it will probably bite you later.
Only playing when you have to, looks bad to me, but you are along long way behind in rading.
Prioritise well.
Good decisions about that look towny.
Also all these wagons if they are actually stalled may cause a bail out vote lurker compromise lynch...(ooo did i sound scary enough?)-
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Votecount 1.18
[6]PeregrineV:Egg, Thor665, Scripten, The Fonz, Boonskiies, AxleGreaser
[5]Aneninen:Shiro*, TierShift, Garmr, T S O, PeregrineV
[4]Thor665:goodmorning, Nero Cain, flubbernugget, Izariael
[1]goodmorning:Slandaar
[1]Slandaar:Aneninen
[1]T S O:Muffin
[1]Shiro:Grayfoxxxx
[2]Not Voting:beastcharizard, davesaz
With 21 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.
Day 1 deadline:(expired on 2014-10-27 20:25:38)
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In post 2254, goodmorning wrote:Why is Pere the leading wagon again?
Oh, I remember. It's because Thor said so.
In other news; Thor is complaining that other people aren't pushing wagons - almost as though he has a point.
In post 2256, beastcharizard wrote:What is everyone's read on my slot?
Scummy.
In post 2264, Flubbernugget wrote:@Thor who else do you want a read on?
Do you have other reads? Because you included a null and some other very soft reads there - were those your strongest reads, or just random reads?
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