Touhou: MitLoF ~ Makai Mix (Game Over)

[Curiosity]

Please point out where I "flipped out" at Notty for townreading Mollie?

I

still

don't like Beast's last set of posts especially the last one. I didn't like how Beast was trying to use self-meta to say someone was scummy because omfg he fucked up tags. I mean it's a simple mistake so I felt it was OTT and scummy so I called bullshit on it and voted him for it.

Again reset your read on me and get out of your tunnel, ty!

~M

[beastcharizard]

So you don't scum read people for shit you do as scum?

If you say you don't you lie.

[Curiosity]

i swear to god if Mara comes in townreading me and you continue this bullshit of scum reading me I'm going to fucking push a lynch on you guys.

Oh yes; let's keep going and making up bullshit reasons to scum read me.

KEEP GOING.

~m

[purple hero]

OK

rise and fall of the mollie read

go

[beastcharizard]

VOTE: Curiousity

I am going to sheep Purple Hero.

[purple hero]

i swear to god if Mara comes in townreading me and you continue this bullshit of scum reading me I'm going to fucking push a lynch on you guys.

yeah, good luck with that

mara needs to fill me in because i'm not just taking it on faith any more

[purple hero]

OK

rise and fall of the mollie read

go

^and by this, i mean, how did mollie go from a scumread to a townread

how did the read evolve?

[Curiosity]

So you don't scum read people for shit you do as scum?

If you say you don't you lie.

No, I try not too. It's not fair to a player to put YOUR scumtells on someone else. Everyone is different from each other, everyone has reasons for their play being different than others. Just because you did X as scum must mean Y is scum because they committed it is a really bad mindset to go on.

Obv tags can just be a mistake -- it's not really a scum tell which is why i didn't get the angle you were pushing there. Had it been something else that wasn't as weak okay maybe I could see the base for the vote and the push, but that, nope it was too weak and sounded absolutely fake and fabricated and I didn't like it.

~M

[purple hero]

VOTE: Curiousity

I am going to sheep Purple Hero.

if you were sheeping me, you'd be voting actiondan

his kagami unvote was pretty awesome, you should go check it out

[Om of the Nom]

RH are my initials and you can't guess anymore because you will give my whole role away if you do. I only let you guess because you weren't going to get it right.

OOOOOOHHHHHHHH

[Curiosity]

OK

rise and fall of the mollie read

go

I had slept on the reasons why she was attacking me and realized why I saw her saying what she did and everything. It felt more genuine that she was hurt and potentially bitter rather than trying to push a mislynch on me as scum. I guess maybe it's because only her and I know what happened so it's a bit different/hard to explain. I know why she's calling my scum play sleazy and I can see it. So it felt like townrage at me instead of scum rage.

Plus the way she was pushing me didn't feel like a push coming from scum. Mollie has a meta tell that she avoids me as scum; like avoids interacting with me to a certain extent, avoid pushing me; giving a read towards me. She would have had to go against all of that hard meta to push me as scum.

So between the two I realized that she was town

~M

[Curiosity]

the thing that is bugging me is that wis did not "catch me" in perp mylo sangres did but jesus fucking christ every single member of the scumteam had an active hydra with either nacho or fery in an ongoing game (I had both so that is why I got caught out first!). so I don't understand the hubris but I can't ignore how much we are in sync. I wish I could trust him.

I did not claim I caught you in perpertual. I didn't, nacho/ffery did and I was defending you and calling nacho/ffery scum.

I claimed I caught you in Charmed and Olympian Gods.

~Wis

[beastcharizard]

VOTE: ActionDan

Oops. Sorry about that.

@curiousity:

1. I can't spell
2. I did it on purpose so if I thought to do it as scum that means others have to think to do it as scum. It is the same as town reading someone for thinking like you, instead I am scum reading someoen because I think they think like me.

[beastcharizard]

RH are my initials and you can't guess anymore because you will give my whole role away if you do. I only let you guess because you weren't going to get it right.

OOOOOOHHHHHHHH

Also, if you are on the scum team you can't kill me anymore because there are 2 other people whom I expect to know who I am at this point so if I die one of yall is scum. So really I am unkillable. I just broke the game.

[Curiosity]

Yeah, but townreading someone because of similar thoughts is a hell of a lot different than reading someone because they think like me as scum.

When I look for townreads that give me townvibes for thinking like me it's because of how their posts were influenced by current posts. Whereas you are taking past meta tells from your scum games and putting it to current posts.

Basically one is in the current and the second you are using biased tells to scum hunt. As I said it has a major flaw.

~M

[purple hero]

what do you have to say about kagami, mala?

[purple hero]

alright, well, i'll see what mara has to say

later

[Om of the Nom]

RH are my initials and you can't guess anymore because you will give my whole role away if you do. I only let you guess because you weren't going to get it right.

OOOOOOHHHHHHHH

Also, if you are on the scum team you can't kill me anymore because there are 2 other people whom I expect to know who I am at this point so if I die one of yall is scum. So really I am unkillable. I just broke the game.

oh well if u die i have no control over it im town oops

also tbh there are like two possibilties as to who you are but im gonna assume one over the other

[Curiosity]

what do you have to say about kagami, mala?

IDK. There has been posts by her that I have liked, but actually disagreed with. I know there are people who have way more experience in reading her whereas my game count of reading her incorrectly is ridiculously high. In ToV, she neighborized Tammy and I (who were mason vig switch, lol) and there was posts by her in the QT that I felt that came from scum and attacked her in the QT and in thread. In Inuyasha I paid zero attention to her and she was scum.

So I have zero faith in reading Kagami, but her posts aren't swinging me one way or another besides the one post that gave me townvibes, but I disagreed with it all together.

~M

[Curiosity]

all that stuff i said was addressed to wisdom and yes, HE DID ACT LIKE I DIDN'T KNOW SHIT WHEN I SAID I THOUGHT MOLLIE WAS TOWN, HE DUG HIS HEELS AND SAID "FUCK YOU, I KNOW HOW TO READ MOLLIE BETTER THAN HYOU."

Saying she's town without any explanation when everything I was seeing from her looked like obvscum does not help me behave better than this.

~Wis

[Curiosity]

all that stuff i said was addressed to wisdom and yes, HE DID ACT LIKE I DIDN'T KNOW SHIT WHEN I SAID I THOUGHT MOLLIE WAS TOWN, HE DUG HIS HEELS AND SAID "FUCK YOU, I KNOW HOW TO READ MOLLIE BETTER THAN HYOU."

Saying she's town without any explanation when everything I was seeing from her looked like obvscum does not help me behave better than this.

~Wis

[Curiosity]

alright, well, i'll see what mara has to say

later

Woooooooooooooooooooooo yay being handwaved off again.

gotta fucking love that shit.

~M

[purple hero]

i'm going to bed

because i have to sleep

chill out

[purple hero]

*sigh*
ok

let's rephrase that

i said that to wrap up the conversation
because i'm going to bed
because i feel like crap and need to go to sleep now

rest assured, i will talk to you again, mala. not hand waving you off.

good night.

[Curiosity]

Thank you.

Sorry it's just I hate feeling like I'm handwaved off to someone else to read me.

I didn't realized you were going to sleep.

Sleep well! Talk to you soon! GN

~M