Open 571- Pick Your Poison Game over

[Newbie]

Here's all of my notes so far on some of the players.

Alchemist21: Bringing to attention that he/she is new to mafia by asking why people are voting for Fluminator. Came off a little forced and not genuine interest on why Flumintor is being voted up but instead as more of an excuse/a way to throw out the “I’m a new player” card.

Doublade (Marquis/caledfwitch): Heavy lurking, not contributing much.

Krystal Bald (Mantisdreamz/Nikanor): Could we be looking at a brave mafioso that started the pregame choice convo hoping that a townie would express their confusion and then used the reaction fishing excuse as a way to clear a townie depending on the way that the townie reacted, hoping to receive town cred?

aphix: Jumped on a seemingly easy lynch (Anatole Kuragin), one that he/she will have the perfect excuse for (Anatole not knowing about pregame choices) if Anatole flips town. Came up with a sketchy reason why he/she kept his/her vote on Anatole after Krystal explained that he/she was just reaction fishing. Flip-flopping about agreeing with the reaction test and not agreeing with it.

My impression

: aphix thought he/she had an easy and “obvious” lynch to gain town cred but then realized that he/she jumped the gun when Krystal revealed that the whole pregame choice thing was just a way to reaction fish. Since it would look bad to unlynch, aphix gave a flimsy excuse as to why he/she isn’t unlynching.

[Matsumi Sisters]

I've been busy as fuck recently with even ~more~ school shit. I don't know if I'll ever get to catch up at this rate. there is a good chance I will have free time tomorrow/this weekend.

[Fluminator]

My reason for Majiffy was similar. More specifically, both Reino and Majiffy tried to make the people on the midget wagon look as scummy as possible.
The midget wagon wasn't really that suspicious in my opinion. At least not to the extent Reino made it out to be. How would the town on it have known someone would quick hammer.
@Krystal: this is really important to me, are both your heads in agreeance that Reino is town?

ya, i think he is town. so does nik. why is it so important?

Just curious. I'll be willing to believe you for today. No one else seems interested in lynching Reino anyway.

Sup Newbie, thanks for replacing.
This was the post I thought he scum-slipped.

You aren't catching me out that easily

It implies he's on guard to not get caught because he's maf.

So Majiffy and Anatole seem to be on one camp against Krystal. Newbie and Krystal seem to be against Majiffy and Aphix. Aphix and Reino were also against Majiffy. I'll probably place my vote on Majiffy soon. I want to re-read his ISO first.

[Krystal Bald]

Vote: Majiffy.

What do you think of Matsumi, Newbie?

[notscience]

vc after I do my essay

[Newbie]

Vote: Majiffy.

What do you think of Matsumi, Newbie?

The vig claim and the fact that Matsumi most likely had the same night target as the mafia is odd. I'm willing to give Matsumi a chance to prove his/her ability, though. If Matsumi doesn't, we lynch him/her next day phase.

[caledfwitch]

would you be willing to lynch reinoe today y/y

[Newbie]

would you be willing to lynch reinoe today y/y

Nah. Not right now anyway. Why are you so hard pressed to lynch someone that hasn't even been replaced yet?

[Newbie]

I'm leaving, so I won't be able to answer any questions anyone has for me until later. Hopefully there's more activity by the time I get back.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I'd probably vote reinoe at this point

[Fluminator]

Really? Since when did you want to go against Reino? Or are you trying to protect Majiffy?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Do you always ask such inane, leading questions?

I'd be ok with a lynch on half the people in this game at this point for day one.

[Fluminator]

Your such a joy to play with Kurigan.

[Alchemist21]

Really? Since when did you want to go against Reino? Or are you trying to protect Majiffy?

Where are you getting the idea he's protecting Majiffy?

[Fluminator]

He seems to think Majiffy is town. The town seems to be leaning Majiffy's direction and with the Krystal wagon not gaining any traction, it seems like he is moving to the second most likely wagon that's not Majiffy.

[Anatole Kuragin]

He seems to think Majiffy is town. The town seems to be leaning Majiffy's direction and with the Krystal wagon not gaining any traction, it seems like he is moving to the second most likely wagon that's not Majiffy.

Ok, so can we now hear your theories on why I'd like to lynch Aphix or Matsumi?

[Fluminator]

Why? I was just curious whether your motive was thinking Reino was scum or Majiffy was town.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Saying a player is protecting another player usually indicates that you think they are a scumteam.

[Fluminator]

My post didn't have the tone I intended. I see why you thought that. I'll keep that in mind for future games.
(But seriously, are you scum with Majiffy )

[Alchemist21]

Here's a series of posts I caught in Reinoe's ISO.

Gaiden's is anti-town at worst.

Ugh. I'm gonna have to agree with this after seeing post 500 and 503. Scum are never as sloppy and terrible as Gaiden.

VOTE: Matsumi


I'm just gonna troll for the rest of this DP because Alchemist, Matsumi, Majiffy are the obvious scum team.

btw, I'm really pissed that our Vig didn't shoot either Matsumi or Gaiden yesterday. You suck vig. Stop being lazy.

Reinoe says he thinks Gaiden is town on D1 and going into D2, but thinks Gaiden should have been vigged N1.

Vote: Reinoe

[aphix]

Flum where do you see in against majiffy.

Newbie: the fact that your disregarding the fact I was pushing AK to see the responses. Rather you believe it or not the fact that you ignore it is an indicator you haven't read more then the first few pages your trying to misrepresent what happened in the game. Either way stop it.

[Anatole Kuragin]

My post didn't have the tone I intended. I see why you thought that. I'll keep that in mind for future games.
(But seriously, are you scum with Majiffy )

No, and if it's between players I'm not sure about, I'd rather keep strong players alive longer than noobs/bads. It's worth the risk that it's a strong player playing scum I think.

[Majiffy]

You no longer want Reino lynched?

I'd be ok with Reinoe, because I think Bald's play is a chainsaw instead of a WK. But I would prefer Bald the obvscum.

b) Your previous reasons are that I made an argument you disagree with and stuck to my guns. That's not alignment-indicative, and even if you want to make the argument that it is, it's more likely to come from town.

why?

Tell me how many times you've seen town tunnel.
Tell me how many times you've seen scum townread because of tunneling.

Compare and contrast.

Also, sorry about all of the 'he/she'. I know it gets annoying and repetitive to read. >.<

Please explain how you went from posts in the 60-70 range to posts in the 400 range with seemingly no reading in between.

Then jumping on the flavor-of-the-week wagon with circumstantial reasoning.

So Majiffy and Anatole seem to be on one camp against Krystal. Newbie and Krystal seem to be against Majiffy and Aphix. Aphix and Reino were also against Majiffy. I'll probably place my vote on Majiffy soon. I want to re-read his ISO first.

What does it tell you that everyone is happy to lynch me?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Here's a series of posts I caught in Reinoe's ISO.

Gaiden's is anti-town at worst.

Ugh. I'm gonna have to agree with this after seeing post 500 and 503. Scum are never as sloppy and terrible as Gaiden.

VOTE: Matsumi


I'm just gonna troll for the rest of this DP because Alchemist, Matsumi, Majiffy are the obvious scum team.

btw, I'm really pissed that our Vig didn't shoot either Matsumi or Gaiden yesterday. You suck vig. Stop being lazy.

Reinoe says he thinks Gaiden is town on D1 and going into D2, but thinks Gaiden should have been vigged N1.

Vote: Reinoe

Playing devil's advocate here but - it's often encouraged to shoot VIish players they aren't scumreading because they're inherently difficult to read, or are going to be given "too scummy to be scum" credit and not lynched. They're good vig targets because town doesn't lose too much with their death and we don't waste time debating lynching them.

[Alchemist21]

Would the same player saying, "they're too scummy to be scum," be the same one pushing for them to get vigged?