Mini Normal 1609: The Case Of Doctor Pepper (Game Over)

[Doogal121]

@Mod: I'm V/LA every weekend. It's in my siggy.

Noted, thanks! ~ Bert

Prod dodge, a lot to get caught up on.

[Flubbernugget]

@Fake are you sheeping BBT's vote on the grounds that he's conftown?

[Flubbernugget]

@BBT why do you oppose a massive lynch?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Something Fake God didn't bring up: What if the Green Crayon kill didn't have anything to do with role at all? What if the accuracy of Green Crayons' reads were what led to his demise?

This points to Anatole, who I was scumreading anyway.

You can WIFOM all you want over it - that's basically the simplest explanation for every kill and is typically incorrect.

Did you think GC was the other mason, TTH?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Because I'm basically a VT with GC dead.

If TTH's and Boon's claims are true (and they're not scum), why would scum not kill one of those two?

Boon's probably lying, TTH isn't scary. Serves them more to set up lynches with bad NKA

[Flubbernugget]

@TheRufflig are you still scum reading the Csareo/Titus slot?

[Flubbernugget]

Why do you think Boonskiies is lying?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Why do you think Boonskiies is lying?

It was a convenient claim under duress. Fake claim 101 is to claim something hard to confirm - jailkeeper or tracker. Then you just have to guess who the VTs are and claim they didn't do anything, worst case you get outed by someone claiming to be a power role or another tracker counter-claiming then you kill them.

Now the issue is that he said "no result" - it's possible there's a roleblocker, but with the outed roles so far I think it's more likely he meant to say "massive didn't visit anyone" and didn't realize he was making a mistake by saying no result.

Also, of the four or five roles outed, tracker is by far the most powerful and they didn't even attempt to kill him.

[Flubbernugget]

As far as your last point goes GC was of much higher utility than Boon when looking at days over nights. Basically I'm agreeing with TTH and I think the tracker claim is legit.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@Fake are you sheeping BBT's vote on the grounds that he's conftown?

He's sheeping me because you're scum.

It's also interesting that you're in here asking questions trying to look town when it looks like you could come under some pressure. Coincidence? Probably not.

@BBT why do you oppose a massive lynch?

Because he's town.

[FakeGod]

@Fake are you sheeping BBT's vote on the grounds that he's conftown?

It should be evident from my play that who I townread have virtually no correlation with whose opinions I agree with.

[Doogal121]

Every time I look over this game I just can't figure out why, out of all the people out there, would they pick GC over BBT/TTH/Boons. TTH is dangerous with the vengeful ability (and it becomes stronger at the end game). If they kill BBT, they end both a mason and a neighborhood in one go. And Boons is a tracker, which is a real threat to them. Why GC?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Doogal, how do you feel about lynching Flubber today?

[Doogal121]

@BBT, I'm not sure how I feel. Besides lurking, what is the case against him?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@BBT, I'm not sure how I feel. Besides lurking, what is the case against him?

His voting pattern is pretty bad. Lurking is scummy, not providing much content is also scummy.

I quoted his reasons for being on my wagon and JA's wagon. Do they look like they come from a town perspective to you?

What do you think about Flubber's/Boon's and your votes seeming to follow each other around on D1?

[Doogal121]

I agree, he seemed very sheepy, but the wagons formed for valid reasons. I know I was pretty sure you were scum. And I was pretty sure JA was scum. So, it's hard to fault Flubber and Boon for doing the same thing I was doing. I'm still not sure why GC as town was trying to start yet another wagon instead of picking out of the 5 we had.

I'm starting to have a real problem understanding that TTH vengeful gambit and still haven't seen why it was good idea. Not a single person who was for it has explained why it was a good idea. I'm thinking that TTH is vengeful scum and may have been trying to get an early shot off. If that is the case, we would need to have some type of vig to offset her and I don't think we do. I was hoping that a vig would have taken her out in the night. God, I'm just confused as all hell.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I agree, he seemed very sheepy, but the wagons formed for valid reasons. I know I was pretty sure you were scum. And I was pretty sure JA was scum. So, it's hard to fault Flubber and Boon for doing the same thing I was doing. I'm still not sure why GC as town was trying to start yet another wagon instead of picking out of the 5 we had.

I'm starting to have a real problem understanding that TTH vengeful gambit and still haven't seen why it was good idea. Not a single person who was for it has explained why it was a good idea. I'm thinking that TTH is vengeful scum and may have been trying to get an early shot off. If that is the case, we would need to have some type of vig to offset her and I don't think we do. I was hoping that a vig would have taken her out in the night. God, I'm just confused as all hell.

There is a big difference between your votes and Flubbers. His voting was very opportunistic with little reasoning. Couple this with lurking and lack of content provided and it points to him being scum.

You don't find anything suspicious about all 3 of your votes sticking together throughout D1?

TTH could have claimed a hell of a lot better than vengeful townie if she wanted to keep herself alive. A vengeful townie claim just doesn't make sense from scum, it really doesn't.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Spoiler: VCA

Vote Count 1.02

BlueBloodedToffee(3)

– TellTaleHeart,

Flubbernugget

, Csareo

Csareo(2)

– BlueBloodedToffee, scrambles

Anatole Kuragin(1)

– GreyICE

Boonskiies(1)

– massive

GreyICE(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

Wake88(1)

– Rambler

Not Voting(4)

–

Boonskiies, Doogal121

, The Rufflig, Wake88

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Deadline is on Sunday, September 21, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-21 11:00:00)}

Mod notes:

Let me know if you ever see any errors.

Rambler and GreyIce are being prodded.[/area][/color]

Vote Count 1.03

BlueBloodedToffee(3)

– TellTaleHeart,

Flubbernugget

, Csareo

Csareo(3)

– BlueBloodedToffee, scrambles, The Rufflig

Anatole Kuragin(1)

– GreyICE

Boonskiies(1)

– massive

GreyICE(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

Wake88(1)

– Rambler

Not Voting(3)

–

Boonskiies, Doogal121

, Wake88

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Deadline is on Sunday, September 21, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-21 11:00:00)}

Mod notes:

Let me know if you ever see any errors.
Rambler did not pick up his prod within 24 hours and therefore is being replaced.[/area][/color]

Vote Count 1.04

BlueBloodedToffee(4)

– TellTaleHeart,

Flubbernugget

, Csareo,

Boonskiies

Csareo(3)

– BlueBloodedToffee, scrambles, The Rufflig

Anatole Kuragin(1)

– GreyICE

Boonskiies(1)

– massive

GreyICE(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

Wake88(1)

– Rambler

Not Voting(2)

–

Doogal121

, Wake88

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

The deadline is temporarily on hold.

Mod notes:

Let me know if you ever see any errors.
Rambler is being replaced. When Rambler is officially replaced, the initial deadline will be revised and extended.[/area][/color]

Vote Count 1.05

BlueBloodedToffee(5)

– TellTaleHeart,

Flubbernugget

, Csareo,

Boonskiies, Doogal121

Boonskiies(2)

– massive, BlueBloodedToffee

Csareo(2)

–scrambles, The Rufflig

Anatole Kuragin(1)

– GreyICE

GreyICE(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

Wake88(1)

– Green Crayons

Not Voting(1)

–Wake88

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

DoctorPepper will tabulate the new, extended deadline shortly.

Mod notes:

Let me know if you ever see any errors.
Green Crayons replaces Rambler, effective immediately. GreyIce has been prodded.[/area][/color]

At this point, all 3 votes sit on me all the way up to VC 1.18

Vote Count 1.18

Boonskiies(4)

–massive, JaggedAppliance, TellTaleHeart, Green Crayons

BlueBloodedToffee(4)

–

Flubbernugget

, Csareo,

Doogal121

, Wake88

Not Voting(5)

– The Rufflig, Anatole Kuragin, FakeGod, BlueBloodedToffee,

Boonskiies

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-28 11:00:00)}

Please let us know if you ever see any errors. [/area][/color]

Vote Count 1.19

Boonskiies(4)

–massive, JaggedAppliance, TellTaleHeart, Green Crayons

BlueBloodedToffee(4)

–

Flubbernugget, Doogal121

, Wake88, Csareo

JaggedAppliance(3)

– FakeGod, The Rufflig,

Boonskiies

Csareo(1)

- BlueBloodedToffee

Not Voting(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-28 11:00:00)}

Please let us know if you ever see any errors. [/area][/color]

Vote Count 1.21

JaggedAppliance(5)

– FakeGod, The Rufflig,

Boonskiies, Flubbernugget, Doogal121

TellTaleHeart(4)

- Green Crayons, JaggedAppliance, Csareo, Wake88

Boonskiies(2)

–massive, TellTaleHeart

Csareo(1)

– BlueBloodedToffee

Not Voting(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-28 11:00:00)}

Please let us know if you ever see any errors. [/area][/color]

Now all 3 of you sit on JA until his lynch.

Vote Count 1.29

JaggedAppliance(7)

– FakeGod,

Boonskiies, Flubbernugget, Doogal121

, Titus, TellTaleHeart, The Rufflig

Anatole Kuragin(3)

– Green Crayons, BlueBloodedToffee, JaggedAppliance

TellTaleHeart(1)

– Wake88

Boonskiies(1)

– massive

Not Voting(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Tuesday, September 30, 2014, 11:59 PM {(expired on 2014-09-30 23:59:00)}

Please let us know if you ever see any errors. [/area][/color]

Sorry for the big font, thought regular font size would be missed amongst the VC's.

There is something in those voting patterns. It just feels off.

[Wake1]

I want a FakeGod lynch. However, for Day 2, I could settle for Flubber's head.

I'm leery of a few others, but I don't have time right now to voice my thoughts.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Vote Flubber please Wake.

[Wake1]

I don't think you're Mafia Mason atm, or that DP would use a Bastard game. If somehow you're Scum I am going to be frustrated.

I should really ask for an FG/TTH lynch should Flubber flip Town. BBT, I'm willing to hear your feelings on why Flubber's Scum. The reason I say this is because I want to see if they resonate with my reasons.

Tentatively, VOTE: Flubbernugget.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I have stated my reasons Wake, only a few posts ago.

This is a normal game. Bastard Masons are not possible.

[Wake1]

Very latest thoughts on Titus, FakeGod, and TTH, BBT? And Boonskiies.

My gut tells me at least one Scum is within those four.

If you could pick based on what you feel/know right now, which one of those four would you consider lynching, and why?

[Wake1]

I have stated my reasons Wake, only a few posts ago.

This is a normal game. Bastard Masons are not possible.

Links

really

help.

I do not have the luxury of time.

[Wake1]

I too feel Flubber's been lurking.

But, then again, I could say that of Doogal, Anatole, Rufflig, and massive. I keep forgetting they're in the game.