Open 569 ~ Hope + 1 ~ Game Over!

[Team 9]

in order for this angle to work, all 3 scum have to be on the Bulge wagon already, since they couldn't be going to form a counterwagon. I get that he thought Thesp was scum, but there would still have to be 2 more scum from his POV.

You misunderstand.

Bulge is a mislynch, and scum don't need to fight it. Prior to us subbing in and Bins speaking up, it looked like it was guaranteed to go through because town was pushing for it, and scum were comfortable with just blending in as town-Team 9 pushed it through. Thus, they had no need to help generate any counterwagon. The quote isn't saying that the Bulge wagon is scum-driven. It's not about the lynchers being scum, it's about the player who scum comfortably saw as a guaranteed lynchee being town.

I agree with this completely.

Team 9, you need to analyze this for a second - if you have, great, but talk to me about it now. If Bulge is town, who are the scum here?

You misunderstand.

Bulge is a mislynch, and scum don't need to fight it. Prior to us subbing in and Bins speaking up, it looked like it was guaranteed to go through because town was pushing for it, and scum were comfortable with just blending in as town-Team 9 pushed it through. Thus, they had no need to help generate any counterwagon. The quote isn't saying that the Bulge wagon is scum-driven. It's not about the lynchers being scum, it's about the player who scum comfortably saw as a guaranteed lynchee being town.

You misunderstand.

Bulge is a scumlynch, and scum aren't fighting it because my case has been cherrypicked to "lol T9 is calling bulge scum for being useless and lurky" and my credibility has been already reduced to rubble of constant discrediting my status as a tunneler. And then the other huge supporter (Sakura) was already branded as a tunneler even before this game. Thus, they had no need to help generate any counterwagon, since they know that he's not gonna be lynched at this rate. All they need to do is one lolwagonshift at the last minute of the D1.

[Bins]

I'm very confident reading Bulge.

FTF, here, I can usually catch him as scum.

[Team 9]

Which ones did you shut down?

My own.

[Bins]

That doesn't answer my question.

[Team 9]

Also have been cutting off the bud of Flubber wagon too.

[Team 9]

That doesn't answer my question.

I wasn't done.

3 of {Varsoon, 22, (Gaiden/Bert)}

[Bins]

And every other damn scum read in this game.

Varsoon? "No, I gutread him town."
Flubber? "Haha, no."

[22]

@22 that was a whole lot of fluff and talk about nothing there

I didn't sign up for this.

Literally did

not

sign up for this.

Majiffy did. I feel no obligation to be here, and therefore I am not going to willingly chain myself to yet another game in which people dismiss my posts as useless, ignore the points behind what I'm saying, and lose themselves in insane confbias, hypocrisy, and stubbornness. I actually thought I might be able to work with your slot once Sakura replaced out. But this is even worse.

I'm done with impossible battles.

Replace me out.

[Bins]

Though I admit the Varsoon read has changed.

[Team 9]

And every other damn scum read in this game.

Varsoon? "No, I gutread him town."
Flubber? "Haha, no."

If you have noticed, my stance flipped on him after his terribad setup talk.
Flubber I actually presented a damn towncase on him so l2r

[Bins]

Read it.

It isn't strong enough.

[Team 9]

Don't care.
It's much stronger than your towncase of the Bulge.

[Bins]

Tbh it's main point was to figure out if your PoE was good. It solidified that. You're town.

[Bins]

I wanted to go through that argument but it just made me angry.

[Bins]

His posts should read as town or at least not scum now.

[Team 9]

Then perhaps you should start by explaining to us how we're misrepping his posts, like you promised yesterday.

[Team 9]

@22 that was a whole lot of fluff and talk about nothing there

I didn't sign up for this.

Literally did

not

sign up for this.

Majiffy did. I feel no obligation to be here, and therefore I am not going to willingly chain myself to yet another game in which people dismiss my posts as useless, ignore the points behind what I'm saying, and lose themselves in insane confbias, hypocrisy, and stubbornness. I actually thought I might be able to work with your slot once Sakura replaced out. But this is even worse.

I'm done with impossible battles.

Replace me out.

This slot can be town now.

[Flubbernugget]

Because he's a scum lynch at best and

a PL at worst.

That's moot.

His play does not deserve PL stature as a sole name, when there are much worse offenders (look at me! look at me!)

Seems like you're making up a story to explain your vote.

But I don't scum read you the way I'm scum reading Bulge. You're at least semi-productive.

Seems like you have a strawman on me though. No bueno.

[Bins]

Then perhaps you should start by explaining to us how we're misrepping his posts, like you promised yesterday.

I guess it's because I lack motivation to bring that damn tunnel fight back up, but I'll get to it after homework and I address something else.

[Team 9]

Oh also let me remind you that my current scumpool now is {Bulge, one of Gaiden/Bert, Varsoon.}
I don't think Gaiden and Bert are scum together. And we personally lean Gaiden for more likely to be scum atm.

[22]

oh fuck you

[Team 9]

So stay?
(<3)

[Bins]

@22 that was a whole lot of fluff and talk about nothing there

I didn't sign up for this.

Literally did

not

sign up for this.

Majiffy did. I feel no obligation to be here, and therefore I am not going to willingly chain myself to yet another game in which people dismiss my posts as useless, ignore the points behind what I'm saying, and lose themselves in insane confbias, hypocrisy, and stubbornness. I actually thought I might be able to work with your slot once Sakura replaced out. But this is even worse.

I'm done with impossible battles.

Replace me out.

This is what I want to address. But I have homework right now, but I am so done with this. And no, not the replace out. I'm done with impossible battles.

You guys don't understand it, I think, when you're the ones doing it. But there have been moments in this game which make the game less fun... and really don't help the game at all. You think you're pushing a scumread, but you're not. All it looks like is that you're not listening. And worse, you're letting scum relax. Because I am, in fact, town reading most of the Bulge wagon. I think it's the scum that have found it easy to coast by and maybe hop on naturally. And you are so stuck on this stupid case that you don't even notice this.

Impossible fucking battles. I hate them so much. They make me want to break down and cry sometimes.

That's what I see in Bulge.

Maybe not in the crying, but in his complete reaction to your case on him. He thinks the exact thing town would think in that situation, "You're crazy, you won't shut up, and you've completely got it wrong."

Because TEAM 9, if he is town. Yeah, IF HE'S TOWN, what the hell is he supposed to say? "Oh, yeah, you're completely right but I'm not scum." No, he's supposed to say EXACTLY WHAT HE'S SAYING. Because he is town, and he's reacting completely like a town. You're twisting his words, so what is he saying? "THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT." Which is the truth. Why can't that be the truth that you aren't seeing Team 9?

God, Sakura does it too and it's horrible. I was going to replace out of this game but I knew I had to try and steer this fucking wagon in the right direction. But again, you're shutting that down.

Thesp is right. Thesp is 100% right. You can be wrong sometimes.

[ika]

let just lynch 22 and ignore team 9 untill further notice

VOTE: 22

bins joint me, bludge join me on this wagon

[Bins]

22 is town.