InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)

[BBmolla]

BoP they confirmed to me last night dood didn't you already do this

[Lord Mhork]

Shos I still don't understand what you're asking. What do you want rephrased?

[Egg]

I personally think the hammering=gets shard thing is bogus, but that could just be me.

Also, random thought while I was doing some re-reading... if you knew you were the person doing the poisoning, would you early-claim poison-proof?

Still no harm in planning hammers just in case.

And no, I'd want to distance myself from poison. Wouldn't even mention it.

[ProHawk]

I have this nagging suspicion that BC is the SK.

[Nero Cain]

I personally think the hammering=gets shard thing is bogus, but that could just be me.

naw. It seems legit. I've played in atleast two games with a the same mechanic.

[Nero Cain]

What do people think of mass claim?

I nom myself for hammer since I'm confirmed non group scum and if I need to get lynched later on to move a shard then I'd be ok with that or we could have Molla hammer or w/e idk.

Aronis is todays lynch but I'd like claims from both Jiffy and Neil before the day ends.

[ProHawk]

hmm.. town concentration seems to be the strongest on Abomination wagon although I feel like that wagon is on town.
I think that Shos is probably town, as well as Xof. Don't really like the reasons people are voting for her but I don't think anyone will give up on her.

*sigh*

VOTE: Xofelf

This post put the three way tie between Abom (scum), Xofelf (town), and Shos (?). To place Xofelf in the lead.

[ProHawk]

VOTE: Oversoul

[shos]

@BoP:

Spoiler: read

*snip*
on D1 majiffy started tunneling me like shit. so I dueled him, not knowing fully what duel actually does. I got "dragonscale Tessaiga" ability; so I figured go to the wiki and see who gives me that. I errored in understanding though and thought it was Tosho, a demon. so I thought Majiffy was him, a demon, notscum. his claim wasn't relevant.
Then, in D3, I did the same and thought Serene2 was Hosenki. but I asked majiffy if he had 'tosho' in his PM and he said no, so I withdrew that assumption, same with sven. BUT, Kagami later replaced in and showed me that it was actually Ryujin who was relevant, and not Tosho, so the claim fits perfectly. NOW, after serene has flipped Hosenki, I am 99% sure that this matters, so I think Majiffy is truthful and I believe his claim of Ryujin.

check?

scratch that.

What does dragonscale tessaiga do?

I have no reason to say that now.

Shos please type up who you visited and when you got notified of having a kill. Also please include the same for your n1 action.

N1 dueled Majiffy, got DS tessaiga
N2 dueled Sven(the Serene slot - now dead Hosenki) and got Adamant Barrage - 1s kill which bypasses all roleblocks and almost all defenses(my guess: can only be blocked by Naraku).
N3 used AB on Abomination. he's dead, he's scum, we're glad.

Re; redirector.
This can be solved easily I think: Egg, when you recieved your result, did it say, "BULBA went nowhere" or just 'you see him not doing anyhting' or something alike? because AFAIK, redirector would be treated like he targetted the redirected. for example, if redirected to shos, then it'd say "Shosvisited majiffy".

No. It would say "Your target did XYZ". The no action thing is weird. That's as if a player targeted an ascetic. Who would target me in their right mind?

Also, you got a kill from a VT? Makes no sense.

I think you're confusing tracker with follower. you get WHERE he went, not WHAT he did.

And the role of my target does not seem to matter to what I get; only the flavor. And I got the kill from Serene, not Majiffy. he was a Shardholder.

Hell no. Y and B shouldn't hammer.

Why?

Because they are likely scum. They are still pissed at my suspicion and the fact they'll have to keep handing out their friendly neighbor to people when it likely doesn't exist. As long as I'm here, they aren't conftown. A real town wouldn't be bothered by me suspecting them.

Have you read the game? Molla confirmed receiving their message tonight. they are practically as conftown as one can get without being an IC.

Also, random thought while I was doing some re-reading... if you knew you were the person doing the poisoning, would you early-claim poison-proof?

eh, no; why would you do that? it just lets people know that there is a poisoner around. the role is a stealthy one, as in, if it is tracked or watched you can claim something else like doc etc...I don't see why one would do that. if Naraku's kills are through poisons, why let everyone know that fact?

Hell no. Y and B shouldn't hammer.

Why?

Because they are likely scum. They are still pissed at my suspicion and the fact they'll have to keep handing out their friendly neighbor to people when it likely doesn't exist. As long as I'm here, they aren't conftown. A real town wouldn't be bothered by me suspecting them.

If you believe this, BBMolla absolutely has to be scum too

yup.

[Majiffy]

but guys, jiffy is blatantly avoiding hunting for team scum and is thus very likely to be team scum. Help me kill it.

Sure thing Captain Derp.

we have no knowledge of poison alignment(

Kagami - does anyone fit with poisoning?

)

From your POV, it has to be scum or SK. For the purposes of makes-sense-as-an-SK I'm going to say SK.

so..huh.? I don't understand the question; are you trying to explain last night's events and fit them to the shos-sk theory? that's it? what am I supposed to respond to then?

You made a statement about me making assumptions. Please point them out. All the numerous assumptions.

That you now are confused about the existence of.

Because they don't exist.

Majiffy, what is your race?

Demon. Which I'm pretty sure I've already said. Like... lots.

We should also think about lynch atleast 1 of those 4 puppet claims.

4? I only counted 3 earlier; NS, myself, and MDT.

I'd like claims from both Jiffy

I have fully fullclaimed a well long time ago.

I have one hundred percent absolutely without a doubt zero more information to provide.

So...


VOTE: Aronis

[shos]

Shos I still don't understand what you're asking. What do you want rephrased?

I want you to re-claim. fully. everything. slowly and in a way that cannot be misunderstood.

I have this nagging suspicion that BC is the SK.

who is BC..?

What do people think of mass claim?

I nom myself for hammer since I'm confirmed non group scum and if I need to get lynched later on to move a shard then I'd be ok with that or we could have Molla hammer or w/e idk.

Aronis is todays lynch but I'd like claims from both Jiffy and Neil before the day ends.

Mass claim can happen, but I don't think it is necessary. perhaps tomorrow after Aronis if we deem it valuable. why do you think you're conf non Bo7?
Majiffy already claimed fully I think, Neil hasn't. why neil?

[Nero Cain]

Why do you think you are a demon but your character is a dragon?

[Majiffy]

Because my role PM says "demon: you count as a demon".

[shos]

Ryūjin (竜人, "Dragon Man") was a demon who commanded Tōshū the human swordsmith to create a sword for him and was later killed by him, following the blade's completion.

>_>'
valid.

~~
Majiffy: off the top of my hat:
1. shos is an SK
2. shos is ascetic
3. shos can both poison and nightkill
4. shos' kill/poison on N1 has been blocked
5. shos poisoned abom/serene on N2 and killed the other D3
6. poison kills show in flips 100% like regular kills
7. ...

[shos]

Shos *might* be the SK but it really doesn't matter 'cause he's not living to lylo and its time to kill team scum. So stop being pissed that he killed your buddy.

vote:Majiffy

Psst.

Yer voting obvtown.

axcually
Why is it not an option that sk naraku can control one of the scum?

Im baffled youre even asking this.

SK using scum as a ninja.

I'd actually like to bring this up for tomorrow. the three puppets- what are the odds that one of them is scum?

[Nero Cain]

why do you think you're conf non Bo7?

other than the mod telling me so, I've had atleast two b07 members try to lynch me.

Majiffy already claimed fully I think, Neil hasn't. why neil?

Well he's obviously a neighbor but that doesn't confirm Mala to him unless he's scum and knew Mala was town. + he's done like shit all game (aside from vote hoping) and I'm still minorly suspicious. If OS is scum then he's pretty likely to be town though. Mainly I was want to hear this explanation and watch him fail (assuming that it makes no sense).

[ProHawk]

Guys, there is an absolute lack of natural trajectory on Xof from Oversoul. He starts off with a large town-read on xoflelf due to "claim", but ends up picking xofelf over Abomination who started out as a maybe town and moved to town later on in his posts. The worst part is him trying to pin suspicion off the xofelf vote-hops and then go on to say that the wagon composition is full of town. Posts don't add up.

Spoiler: Relevant Oversoul-Xofelf Quotes

Townie:
Birds of Prey
beastcharizard
xoflelf (claim)

[...]

In that particularly post I was calling notsci out because I've been town as fuck and notsci is actually pretty good at reading me when my play isn't ambiguous. He nailed one of the biggest markers of my scum game in a recent game, and called me town for not exhibiting it in that game.

Ok. You are now above Xoflelf on my list of townies.

Let's lynch pretty clear scum xofelf. I would lynch oversoul or shroomish too however. There's no reason to leave xofelf for later. She wont be killed nor will she actually do anything of use to town. I dare her to list her other abilities

Why?

Xof's role sounds like so much fun

hmm.. town concentration seems to be the strongest on Abomination wagon although I feel like that wagon is on town.
I think that Shos is probably town, as well as Xof. Don't really like the reasons people are voting for her but I don't think anyone will give up on her.

*sigh*

VOTE: Xofelf

Then why immediately follow me onto a wagon? There were multiple other wagons available to you there.

I find it very odd that my vote was the tipping point on the Xof wagon.

I guess I am willing to consider YB town. Just unfortunate coincidences.

[Majiffy]

Majiffy: off the top of my hat:
1. shos is an SK

So what you're saying is that my scumread is invalid because it's a scumread.
That's an intelligent argument.

2. shos is ascetic

We have two investigative PR claims that claim to have received "your action failed" whilst you claim to have not been rolestopped by demon/undead rolestopper-variant.

Which means Occam's points heavily towards ascetic.

3. shos can both poison and nightkill

Follows the SK argument. Again, you're arguing my argument is invalid because you're on the receiving end.

4. shos' kill/poison on N1 has been blocked

I never made this assumption. Please quote me otherwise.

5. shos poisoned abom/serene on N2 and killed the other D3

I also never specced your kills. Please quote me otherwise.

6. poison kills show in flips 100% like regular kills

Please quote me assuming this.


Looks like a lot of grasping.

[shos]

why do you think you're conf non Bo7?

other than the mod telling me so, I've had atleast two b07 members try to lynch me.

your argument is invalid, lol.
I had like, 5, probably, and I was a CW to one, and I shot one. lol. OVERKEEEL

Majiffy already claimed fully I think, Neil hasn't. why neil?

Well he's obviously a neighbor but that doesn't confirm Mala to him unless he's scum and knew Mala was town. + he's done like shit all game (aside from vote hoping) and I'm still minorly suspicious. If OS is scum then he's pretty likely to be town though. Mainly I was want to hear this explanation and watch him fail (assuming that it makes no sense).

that is actually interesting. with all the claims out, neil has to be able to explain his theme of 'others can conftown me'. let's hear it out.

[Majiffy]

I'd actually like to bring this up for tomorrow. the three puppets- what are the odds that one of them is scum?

I'm going to wager 00.000000....1% to 0.

[notscience]

Who did muffin replace?

[Majiffy]

Guys, there is an absolute lack of natural trajectory on Xof from Oversoul. He starts off with a large town-read on xoflelf due to "claim", but ends up picking xofelf over Abomination who started out as a maybe town and moved to town later on in his posts. The worst part is him trying to pin suspicion off the xofelf vote-hops and then go on to say that the wagon composition is full of town. Posts don't add up.

That's great.

We have direct CCs.

[Majiffy]

Who did muffin replace?

HighShroomish I think?

[ProHawk]

eh, no; why would you do that? it just lets people know that there is a poisoner around. the role is a stealthy one, as in, if it is tracked or watched you can claim something else like doc etc...I don't see why one would do that. if Naraku's kills are through poisons, why let everyone know that fact?

I would say if beastcharizard were SK who poisons, it had a freaking good effect wouldn't you? His play is textbook third-party.

[notscience]

Ah. Okay.

I need to reread today.

Iirc we only had like 1 death a night up until now

what changed