InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)

[Egg]

How does it make sense that Mhork is a one shot watcher and we have a multiple shot tracker?

I'm not an every night tracker. One shot watcher isn't that strong. It's not an overpowered combo in a large. I've entertained the idea in my head of Mhork scum though.

Preview edit: If a were a scum redirecter, I'd redirect Y+B to scum. Hell, they may have even done that, but that still leaves Bulb/Aronis.

[Kagami]

There's no way scum decided to block/redirect bulbafenix on night 1 when shos had claimed some goofy vigilante and xof had claimed 1-shot undead cop. And that's assuming there is a second block, since Y&B was also blocked n1.

[zMuffinMan]

not important anyway since aronis's reaction is less antitown than it would be if he were town

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Aronis

[shos]

Still on page 240. I support Egg's theme for now. Scum would have no reason to lie to make town lynch Aronis because if Aronis is town then tonight he cannot doc, so they can just kill Pro without worries.

BoP, why do that? YnB was practically conftowned by BBMolla.

@Mhork: I say

I'm Renkotsu or however it's spelled. Apparently I was with the Band of Seven, but when Lemni flipped as Bo7 too, I went back to ceph to ask about flavor of my dude. Apparent I defected from them and stole a shard and then lots of shit went down and I pissed of most the group or something.

can this be further explained?
what is lemni's role in your life, what you asked the mod, what answer, etc. elaborate as much as possible

what I mean is, try to rephrase everything, elaborate as much as you can.

@Kagami: I think my duel ability does nothing. I mean, I targetted Majiffy and Sven, and both said nothing about anything happening to them, so I think it just gets me an ability.

@BoP: are you kidding? I answered you an hour ago, read the game

[Birds of Prey]

VCA notes through 1.30

Abomination (after his self vote) is reflected in the first vote count for voting us. That is probably the ika head but I do believe he's not bussing with his first vote. Given that's on me, I'll leave the conclusion to you. (1.1)
Shos's position as the counterwagon to known groupscum indicates he's almost certainly not groupscum. The fact zero kills came from the main day wagon indicates that shos is probably not groupscum. (1.Awholelot)
Beastcharizard is probably town because Lemni stops bussing his buddy (Abomination) to vote beastcharizard. I don't see why a player would bus one buddy and then bus the buddy with the lower wagon. (1.6) Beastcharizard comes back to vote Lemni in (1.9).
NeroCain is leaning not group scum because of Abomination's vote on him. (1.8)
Oversoul is damn near certain town. Oversoul was voting Abomination in (1.9). Lemniscate then votes Oversoul. That's very remote to be scum in that type of mix.
Lord Mhork is another lean town. Lemni and Lord Mhork seem to be OMGUSing in 1.10. (Here, Lemni has some issues with being doublevoting so be patient there).

Young and Beautiful wagon is mostly town in 1.27. TSO, zmuffin and The Goat are the people who I don't have reads/confirmation on that appeared on that wagon. Only Abomination is confirmed scum. If Y and B is a scum driven wagon (unlikely FMPOV but I'm letting the votes talk right now) then scum has to be in muffin/TSO/TG. Confirmed scum caused Y and B's claim in 1.29.

[Birds of Prey]

Redirector also does make sense. The Goat getting no result is exactly what would happen if someone visited me. Scum keep me alive, redirect likely cop checks onto me and shos is likely to be checked regardless of his/her alignment.

Why on earth would they pick the goat to redirect and not shos?

I think you're envisioning what I am saying wrong.

A redirector redirects all actions taken on a particular player to another one. So anyone intending to visit shos visits me. Or do people really think that others willingly visited the known ascetic?

[Birds of Prey]

How does it make sense that Mhork is a one shot watcher and we have a multiple shot tracker?

Because groupscum had a ninja every other night and the SK is also a ninja?

It is my understanding that watchers are also immune to ninjas.

[Birds of Prey]

Still on page 240. I support Egg's theme for now. Scum would have no reason to lie to make town lynch Aronis because if Aronis is town then tonight he cannot doc, so they can just kill Pro without worries.

BoP, why do that? YnB was practically conftowned by BBMolla.

@Mhork: I say

I'm Renkotsu or however it's spelled. Apparently I was with the Band of Seven, but when Lemni flipped as Bo7 too, I went back to ceph to ask about flavor of my dude. Apparent I defected from them and stole a shard and then lots of shit went down and I pissed of most the group or something.

can this be further explained?
what is lemni's role in your life, what you asked the mod, what answer, etc. elaborate as much as possible

what I mean is, try to rephrase everything, elaborate as much as you can.

@Kagami: I think my duel ability does nothing. I mean, I targetted Majiffy and Sven, and both said nothing about anything happening to them, so I think it just gets me an ability.

@BoP: are you kidding? I answered you an hour ago, read the game

So you visited a VT and got a killing role?

[shos]

@BoP:

Spoiler: read

*snip*
on D1 majiffy started tunneling me like shit. so I dueled him, not knowing fully what duel actually does. I got "dragonscale Tessaiga" ability; so I figured go to the wiki and see who gives me that. I errored in understanding though and thought it was Tosho, a demon. so I thought Majiffy was him, a demon, notscum. his claim wasn't relevant.
Then, in D3, I did the same and thought Serene2 was Hosenki. but I asked majiffy if he had 'tosho' in his PM and he said no, so I withdrew that assumption, same with sven. BUT, Kagami later replaced in and showed me that it was actually Ryujin who was relevant, and not Tosho, so the claim fits perfectly. NOW, after serene has flipped Hosenki, I am 99% sure that this matters, so I think Majiffy is truthful and I believe his claim of Ryujin.

check?

scratch that.

What does dragonscale tessaiga do?

I have no reason to say that now.

Shos please type up who you visited and when you got notified of having a kill. Also please include the same for your n1 action.

N1 dueled Majiffy, got DS tessaiga
N2 dueled Sven(the Serene slot - now dead Hosenki) and got Adamant Barrage - 1s kill which bypasses all roleblocks and almost all defenses(my guess: can only be blocked by Naraku).
N3 used AB on Abomination. he's dead, he's scum, we're glad.

Re; redirector.
This can be solved easily I think: Egg, when you recieved your result, did it say, "BULBA went nowhere" or just 'you see him not doing anyhting' or something alike? because AFAIK, redirector would be treated like he targetted the redirected. for example, if redirected to shos, then it'd say "Shosvisited majiffy".

[shos]

ALIVE

Spoiler: Lord Mhork, 1s watcher

Flavor-Race: Renkotsu, undead

Abilities: "elaborate ploy" - 1shot watcher.

Actions taken: watched nero N2.

posts 5792, 4822 relevant

Spoiler: shos, Scenter Empathic Vigilante

Flavor-Race: Inuyasha-Demon

Abilities: empathic blade: Visits a player, gains a one-shot ability almost surely related to their flavor, most likely a 1s vig
Also a modified self-watcher, who learns if he was visited by a person who is demon or undead.

Actions taken: N1, visits majiffy. Gains an unclaimed ability - dragonscale tessaiga. N2, duels serene-slot. Gains a one-shot vig ability called Adamant Barrage which is strongman except for naraku(or something).

N3, kills abom.

Spoiler: ProHawk, Shard Thief

Flavor-Race: Tsubaki, Human?

Ability: Visit a player, steal a shard if they have one?

Actions taken: N1/N2 unknown. Stole notscience's shard N3.

Spoiler: Aronis-slot, odd-night doc

Flavor-Race: Kikyo, undead

Abilities: "Healing powers" - odd night doc.

Actions taken: N1 Majiffy, N3 Zmuffin.

Spoiler: Oversoul, miller

Flavor-Race: Urasue-demon

Ability: investigates as undead

Actions taken: Unknown

Spoiler: Squirrel Girl, Doublevoter

Flavor-Race: Unknown

Ability: Double-vote by demonstration. Possibly more. Claims to be able to vote the same person twice.

Actions Taken: Unknown

Spoiler: beastcharizard, Poisonproof

Flavor: Unknown

Ability: Poisonproof

Actions Taken: Presumed none

Spoiler: notscience, Puppet

Flavor-Race: Kohaku-Human

Ability: Can be used by Naraku to perform nightkills

Actions Taken: Unknown

Spoiler: Birds of Prey, Ascetic

Flavor-Race: Hakudoshi, Demon

Ability: Ascetic

Actions Taken: Presumed Nothing

Spoiler: ActionDan, Poison Doctor?

Flavor-Race: Unknown

Ability: Visits players, checks if they're poisoned?

Actions Taken: N2, visited BBMolla, no poison. N1 and N3 unknown.

Spoiler: Kagami, Faustian Puppet

Flavor-Race: Princess Abi-Demon

Abilities: One unclaimed ability. Can be used to perform NKs by Naraku. Can Vanilla-ize self.

Actions Taken: Unclaimed

Spoiler: Majiffy, Puppet

Flavor-Race: Ryujin-Demon

Ability: Can be used to perform NKs by Naraku.

Actions Taken: Unknown

Spoiler: Nero Cain, Unknown

Flavor-Race: unknown-Human

Abilities: Unknown

Actions Taken: Unknown

related posts: 5951

Spoiler: Young and Beautiful, Friendly Neighbor

Flavor-Race: Jijenji-Demon

Ability: Friendly Neighbor

Actions Taken: N1- Visited CoK-slot, blocked.
N2- Visited geists, failed
N3- Visited BBMolla, Succeeded

Spoiler: neil1113, Unclaimed

Flavor-Race: Unclaimed

Ability: Unclaimed, but has knowledge of shards. claims that other people confirm him town, and other people indeed did that

Actions Taken: Unclaimed

Spoiler: The Goat, Investigator?

Flavor-Race: Unclaimed

Ability: Investigative

Actions Taken: N3- visited shos, got no result. N1 and N2 unclaimed

Spoiler: penguin_alien, Unclaimed

Flavor-Race: Unclaimed

Ability: Unclaimed

Actions Taken: Unclaimed

Spoiler: BBmolla, Priestess

Flavor-Claim: Midoriko-Human

Abilities: fisherman- Percentages changed to 100% if he just got a shard. Can passively gain shards if he does nothing, and multiple people would gain a shard.
Ability with 50% chance to see if player has a shard
Ability with 10% chance to kill a non-human player. If it succeeds and they're human, does nothing.
Ability with 50% chance to protect a player. can self-protect, but this will only work successfully once.
Ability with 75% chance to force a player to commute.
Ability with 25% chance to be told if a player is town or scum

Actions taken: N1- does nothing
N2- Commutes Kagami
N3- Investigates shos, no result(roleblocked)

Spoiler: Egg, tracker?

Flavor-Race: Unclaimed

Ability: not-all-nights tracker

Actions Taken: N1 tracked Bulba/aronis to nowhere. N3 tracked prohawk to notsci.

Spoiler: zMuffinMan, VT

Flavor-Race: Unclaimed-Demon

Ability: None

Actions Taken: None

Dead and Flipped

Spoiler: Lemniscate, =====SCUM===== 2-shot Nonconsecutive Ninja

Alignment: Band of Seven Mafia

Flavor-Race: Jakotsu-Undead

Abilities: 2-shot Nonconsecutive Ninja

Cause of Death: D1 lynch

Fakeclaim: Kocho, Town Undead Mason

Spoiler: AngryIcerink, Town Demon Vanilla

Alignment: Town

Flavor-Race: Ryukotsusei-Demon.

Abilities: None

Cause of Death: Killed night 1 by Unknown.

Spoiler: Mist7676, Town Human Demon-Cop

Alignment: Town

Flavor-Race: Miroku-Human

Abilities: Demon Cop

Cause of Death: Lynched Day 2

Actions Performed: Probably visited AD N1, probably got non-demon?

Spoiler: geists, Town Human Vanilla

Alignment: Town

Flavor-Race: Rin-Human

Abilities: None

Cause of Death: Killed Night 2 by unknown

Spoiler: xofelf, Town Demon Hexmage

Alignment: Town

Flavor-Race: Shippo-Demon

Abilities: 9 Ability JoaT
-Undead Cop
-Self-Commute
-50% chance Ascetic
-Vote-thief
-Hated-ifier
-Vote-preventer?
-Disguiser
-One-Ability Type IDer (I still think this is a follow)
-Unclaimed

Cause of Death: Lynched Day 3

Actions Performed: N1- Self-Commuted
N2- Followed BB, confirmed used a blocking-type ability

Spoiler: Abomination, =====SCUM===== Bankotsu, Jewel-related scum

Alignment: Band of seven mafia

flavor-race: Bankotsu-Undead

abilities: even night jewel cop(probably boolean if has/doesn't have shard) / 1-s Jewel thief

Cause of death: killed N3 by shos

Spoiler: The Chamber of Kittens, Town neighbour

Alignment: town

flavor-race: Hakkaku-Demon

Abilities: Neighbour

Cause of death: shot N3 by unknown

Spoiler: Serene2, Town Shardholder

Alignment: town

flavor-race: Hosenki, Demon

abilities: had shard?

cause of death: Killed N3 by unknown.

PA is actually in this game?

[Birds of Prey]

PA is Venmar's former slot.

[Egg]

My action wasn't stopped. I got a result on Bulb for sure.

[shos]

Grand.
Anything we need to do before we end the day?
who we want to hammer?

[shos]

hey what happens if Aronis selfhammers and he has a shard?

[Egg]

Y+b should hammer

[shos]

I still want protection tonight

[Birds of Prey]

Hell no. Y and B shouldn't hammer.

[Egg]

I still want protection tonight

That's not what she said

[Egg]

Hell no. Y and B shouldn't hammer.

Why?

[Birds of Prey]

@BoP:

Spoiler: read

*snip*
on D1 majiffy started tunneling me like shit. so I dueled him, not knowing fully what duel actually does. I got "dragonscale Tessaiga" ability; so I figured go to the wiki and see who gives me that. I errored in understanding though and thought it was Tosho, a demon. so I thought Majiffy was him, a demon, notscum. his claim wasn't relevant.
Then, in D3, I did the same and thought Serene2 was Hosenki. but I asked majiffy if he had 'tosho' in his PM and he said no, so I withdrew that assumption, same with sven. BUT, Kagami later replaced in and showed me that it was actually Ryujin who was relevant, and not Tosho, so the claim fits perfectly. NOW, after serene has flipped Hosenki, I am 99% sure that this matters, so I think Majiffy is truthful and I believe his claim of Ryujin.

check?

scratch that.

What does dragonscale tessaiga do?

I have no reason to say that now.

Shos please type up who you visited and when you got notified of having a kill. Also please include the same for your n1 action.

N1 dueled Majiffy, got DS tessaiga
N2 dueled Sven(the Serene slot - now dead Hosenki) and got Adamant Barrage - 1s kill which bypasses all roleblocks and almost all defenses(my guess: can only be blocked by Naraku).
N3 used AB on Abomination. he's dead, he's scum, we're glad.

Re; redirector.
This can be solved easily I think: Egg, when you recieved your result, did it say, "BULBA went nowhere" or just 'you see him not doing anyhting' or something alike? because AFAIK, redirector would be treated like he targetted the redirected. for example, if redirected to shos, then it'd say "Shosvisited majiffy".

No. It would say "Your target did XYZ". The no action thing is weird. That's as if a player targeted an ascetic. Who would target me in their right mind?

Also, you got a kill from a VT? Makes no sense.

[Birds of Prey]

Hell no. Y and B shouldn't hammer.

Why?

Because they are likely scum. They are still pissed at my suspicion and the fact they'll have to keep handing out their friendly neighbor to people when it likely doesn't exist. As long as I'm here, they aren't conftown. A real town wouldn't be bothered by me suspecting them.

[Cephrir]

VC 4.2

Aronis 6 (zMuffinMan, Kagami, Egg, shos, Lord Mhork, Oversoul)

shos 2 (Majiffy, neil1113)
Majiffy 2 (Nero Cain, Squirrel Girl)

Birds of Prey 1 (Young and Beautiful)
zMuffinMan 1 (shos)

Not Voting 8 (everyone else)

11 to lynch. Deadline for Day 4 is September 4, 9 PM EST.

[ProHawk]

I personally think the hammering=gets shard thing is bogus, but that could just be me.

Also, random thought while I was doing some re-reading... if you knew you were the person doing the poisoning, would you early-claim poison-proof?

[Egg]

Hell no. Y and B shouldn't hammer.

Why?

Because they are likely scum. They are still pissed at my suspicion and the fact they'll have to keep handing out their friendly neighbor to people when it likely doesn't exist. As long as I'm here, they aren't conftown. A real town wouldn't be bothered by me suspecting them.

If you believe this, BBMolla absolutely has to be scum too