Mini 1595: WiFom City: The Inquisition - GAME OVER - THANKS!

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HELLO

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/confirm town survivalist

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I'm just playing, I'm actually a Witch Gambler again.

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I mean Town Gambler.

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Pst Atum and Rubicon, even though I know your answers, you still have to answer the question for the other people in the game.

Oh sorry.
Me, fontisian, Atum, Grib, ika and MadCitrus have played WitchHunt before on other sites. ABR, ZZZX, Unsight, Honey bee, Holder of the Heel, Stigmata and Jargonaut have probably not.

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Hi jargonaut.
You scum again?

Hey Rubicon, I think you're town, but

why?

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I support a Gravedigger claim. It's not me.

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Gravedigger is usually a low priority night kill for the scum.

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fontisian might be scum for approaching the GD claim in the same way as in our last WitchHunt game even though her approach in that game was influenced by context that most likely doesn't apply here.

Also please ignore ika. No one should claim except Gravedigger.

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have we played together before, Stigmata?

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scroll to the bottom where it says 'display posts by user', select one (or more by clicking plus) and then click go.

or click 'activity overview' at the bottom right and then click on someone's post count.

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I'm interested in hearing more about your ika read.

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fontisian might be scum for approaching the GD claim in the same way as in our last WitchHunt game even though her approach in that game was influenced by context that most likely doesn't apply here.

Why doesn't it apply here?

It might! It's a priori less likely, though, and I don't want to speculate more at the moment. But I'm saying it's possible she's trying to copy her own play from a town game and recreate it here.

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Atum-fontisian looks more like distancing than Grib-fontisian imo.

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But for real, this thread doesn't need to be 170+ pages too.

expect me to lurk as bad as last time if that happens.

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My goal is now to discover Stigmata's true identity.

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And the town read of Rubicon drops a bit more.

well it was irrationally strong to begin with, so I look forward to following your progression of this read.

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And the town read of Rubicon drops a bit more.

well it was irrationally strong to begin with, so I look forward to following your progression of this read.

Tell me exactly how I'm imitating a previous game and how it makes me scum, Rubicon? Oh wait, I'm not, this is how I play, and you know that. What the fuck are you doing undermining me on Day 1?

I think you might overestimate what I know.
in any case, I'll continue pointing out possible scum behaviors from you and you can do the same for me.

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Rubicon: You understand that if I town I'm going to die soon correct? You also understand that every seed of doubt you sow about my alignment undermines my attempts to guide the town in the little time I have, correct? What are you doing.

deadlines are long. we can sync up later if you're town.

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speaking of, I just saw Titus' changes to the deadline mechanic in this game.

1 week extensions. God help us.

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What fontisian said. I'd hate you see you go Holder, I liked your posts so far.

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SLOTH

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VOTE: ABR

He's scummy.

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Hmm What're you trying to do here fontisian eh? True or false for you: Rubicon and atum are unaligned.

Players that haven't seen me in a game before, what's your meta?

This is the part where I disappear for another day.

Oh and heads up notice, there's a week and a halfish later in August where I will almost definitely have little to no ability to be around. I'll give the dates later as I don't know them off handedly but if I'm alive then depending on the game cycles we should use an extension so I can catch up and be around for day end.

this is scum.

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Fontisian/Citrus: What makes Rubi and me unaligned?

this is also scum.

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SLOTH

X

this is such a sloth response

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VOTE: Rubicon

You dun goofed.

Let's quicklynch ABR instead

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So. Ika is town. Unsight is town. Relatively sure Fontisian is town.

why, why and why, respectively

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@mod, you're missing a few votes. Honey bee is voting ZZZX, and Unsight and Atum are voting fontisian.

~Fixed. Titus

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My guess was close.

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Choo choo!

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Towntris is definitely present here.

Citown.

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Red like a blood orange, I reckon

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TOWN

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PROBABLY TOWN

Holder of the Heel
MadCitrus
ika

???

Albert B. Rampage
ZZZX
Unsight
Honey bee
Grib
Atum
fontisian
Stigmata
Jargonaut

more to come!

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Spiritualist, sure, here & DLP, and I'm a vegetarian.

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honey bee could be town

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i've already given my reads

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at the moment I'd say scum are probably inside {Albert B. Rampage, ZZZX, fontisian, Stigmata, Jargonaut}

if you want my read on someone specific, ask for it. I'm too tired to make a big reads wall right now.

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PoE

OK all caught up. Didn't miss much.

Vote: Rubiocn

All aboard the bus?

this stood out to me as odd though.

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My fontisian read is simply not seeing anything town from her. Where is the hyperaggressive attack-dog death tunneling of scum? Where is the analysis? She has her vote on me - am I scum? Why? If she thinks that, why isn't she going anywhere with it? Like, it should be HER asking me for my reads if that's what she thinks, not you and Citrus.

The 'scum team' she called is also comprised of me (town), Atum (quite possibly town from his latest posts), and three lurkers.

The towniest thing in her ISO is probably her anger at me for discrediting her.

Town reads are earned and she has not earned hers.

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"imitating"

Ika, sure

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Where is the hyperaggressive attack-dog death tunneling of scum?

So im not the only one who noticed it either...

rubi when your not as tired can you do a full on read list and reaons?

Are you saying I'm scum or town imitating my scum play?

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Dunno why that quoted ika.

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Okay.

If I'm town, who is your next suspect?

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he plays like this as both alignments.

decided to leave fontisian alone for now.

VOTE: Jargonaut

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Think about it. It's not exactly difficult to figure out.

oh I realized what this means.

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You're underestimating at least one of those names. I think ABR + Jargonaut is unlikely unless the third mafia is in a good position and town-read. Otherwise I feel like one of them would step in and do something other than lurk.

I agree with your reads on ika, Grib (though not for the towntell), MadCitrus (same reasoning), Atum (tentatively) and Heel (his replace out seemed very town to me, but I suppose it could have been scum who made a genuine effort to understand the setup and realized he didn't have time - but the part where he tried seemed town)

Can we compromise on wagoning one of the other red or null players?

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Grib is a gut read based on tonality. He's not taking a town leadership position like he has in other games (such as the Mini Normal he finished recently), and I wish he would. But he doesn't seem worried about looking town or being caught, either.

I don't see anything obviously town in what Honey bee said about fake claiming. I don't like to clear people based on their setup and theory spec. I also think she's lurking a bit and I know she lurks as scum.

Unsight and Stigmata are not town or scum yet for me. They're both good players who probably could make themselves look town in a slower forum game, so I'm not at all ready to call them town in a PoE analysis. Burden of Proficiency. I'm not 100% comfortable with the way Unsight has stayed on your wagon, but I need to look into that further to say for sure.

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What riddles and what questions?

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My ABR vote wasn't the result of a serious scum read.

Atum and Unsight are the other names on fontisian's wagon. She thinks there's scum pressuring her so if it's not me it must be one of them.

I honestly have no idea what those quotes by fontisian mean. I'm choosing to ignore them and focus on more important things.

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sorry to see you go Jargonaut. :(


Honey bee: What do you think of ZZZX?

ZZZX: Could you give me your top 3 scum reads?

VOTE: ZZZX

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3. The picking at a minor wording arrangement was a way of discrediting my attack without directly engaging me. Simply put, it was a cop out.

I don't think you should accuse me of not engaging you considering you've basically ignored my last two posts to you.

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That slot being scum wouldn't surprise me.

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Right, the Gravedigger is only told about normal lynches, the Loose Cannon lynch, the Judge lynch and (if I recall correctly) the Dirty Old Bastard vengekill. Deaths that happen during the day, in other words.

If someone dies during the night by the normal night kill, you can assume they were town, but their role remains a secret. (Which isn't a bad thing for the setup since it makes it possible for scum to fake claim later on without being counterclaimed.)

The bomb kill is ambiguous. Last time Titus played this setup, she (scum) detonated the bomb on fontisian (town) and then somehow managed to convince people fontisian had been scum.

There's a lot of town power to balance this lack of concrete information, though. Town ended up winning that game.

I completely forgot Jargonaut had the bomb.

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hiplop what do you think we should do with the bomb on you

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VOTE: hiplop

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by my count: font & hiplop are tied at four votes each. Honey bee, ZZZX and ABR each have one vote on them.

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What's wrong with 50?

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What's wrong with 50?

Nothing, that's what.

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you and Atum are both voting fontisian.

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yes

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game on backburner, will return soon

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maybe we should table the issue of hiplop's alignment for another day

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VOTE: mist

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VOTE: ZZZX

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just trying to decide which non-fontisian player I should be voting

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huh, that wasn't what I got from that exchange at all.

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Since scum has almost certainly figured it out, here's the deal.

I am the priest. Citrus is my acolyte and wants me to clear hiplop, instead of lynching him because he thinks hiplrearop is likely town. Now he's being an anti town ass about his failed winking and forcing me to claim.

Now that I get what Citrus was trying to point out about hiplop (which I'm not sharing), we are not lynching him today.

Instead, I would like to lynch Mist, for the way he's been sheeping hiplop, or ZZZX.

I mean, this is confirmable, but makes zero sense.

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Well, Citrus is offline so let's pretend you're telling the truth for now.

What is your read of me?

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You're correct, but it's easy enough for Citrus to just say 'yes' or 'no' so let's leave it to him.

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UNVOTE:

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I want to know what Mist, Honey bee and ZZZX think about this revelation.

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I'm withholding judgment.

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fontisian, do you know my role yet?

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Graveyard stuff isidentical to DLP's right? I'd ask Titus but I think the answer would take ages

should be, except with private topics instead of QTs

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[6] fontisian: ika, hiplop, Mist7676, MadCitrus, Albert B. Rampage, Unsight
[2] hiplop: Grib, Honey bee
[1] Unsight: Atum
[1] ZZZX: Stigmata
[1] Mist: fontisian

(I think.)

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7 to lynch at deadline, 9 to hammer and end day early

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So, what was your plan for when hiplop counterclaimed you both?

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I would like to take this moment to invite the real Priest, whoever they may be, to check me tonight.

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I would like to take this moment to invite the real Priest, whoever they may be, to check me tonight.

Scum Jester?

Easily confirmed by an Inquisitor self-check.

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So this will sound crazy but I'm not really convinced fontisian is scum. Which either means she's town or she's wedged her way into my brain and is fucking with my thoughts.

At any rate, fake Priest claim = lynch no matter what in any game I'm part of.

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She's already at majority. I see no reason to end the day early.

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Sure there is.

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I hate your post 689 and am considering lynching you over it.

This post is giving me pause. A level of consistency with the gambit that I'm not sure she'd achieve as scum.

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Sure there is.

like?

- fontisian to calm down, return and give reads in case she's town
- discussion of her gambit beyond simply 'welp she lied, lynch lynch lynch'
- Honey bee and Stigmata to say what they think
- me to give reads in case I randomly get shot

I'm against quicklynching even if you have confirmed scum, so.

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You mean what would I expect her to do next?

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No, not quite what I mean. Maybe consistency is the wrong word. It's a small, unnecessary bit of detail that's consistent with her being town, that I think she might not have thought of as scum. (Irritation at me for pointing out that her claim made no sense, when she knew it made no sense but was supposedly banking on scum not noticing; and calling me scum for it.)

It also distances her from me, at a point when she would expect to be counterclaimed and lynched. I wouldn't expect scum!fontisian in that situation to say something that makes me look more town.

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@ABR

What do you think was the motivation behind fontisian's Priest claim?

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Idiocy aside, the scum team is among Mist, ZZZX, Stigmata and ABR,

Can you make cases please?

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@fontisian, I could go for a Stigmata wagon. But I don't think it's possible to lynch any of those names today. Plus, you fake-claimed Priest. If we leave you alive I just know this will be like WitchHunt 3, and years later you'll be telling people about the time you fake-claimed Priest on D1 and got away with it.

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my reads are the same as ika's

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exactly the same

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It's more of a policy thing.

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Lynching ika is a bad policy because he's easy to read.

Lynching people who fake-claim Priest when they're being wagoned is an excellent policy.

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It is. Your claim was dangerous and anti-town, and has a plausible scum motivation, so I think you should be lynched. It's that simple.

I'll share them later.

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If the rest of your play was a shining beacon of obvious town play, I might be more inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt. But it's not.

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We're not blowing up the Gravedigger

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I didn't realize you did think fontisian is scum. I'm surprised that you would want to blow up hiplop if that is your read.

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Rubicon, why didn't you answer this specific question before Font returned? Grr

why would I want to

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I disagree with almost everything ika said on the last two pages, most notably bombing Grib, who is obvious town. Even if fontisian is scum, which is definitely not as clear as the ika/hiplop/Mist/etc. bloc think, Grib is ridiculously town.

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Honey bee should get the bomb.

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I lean town on Atum, ika. Mostly by gut.

My town-read on Citrus is getting a lot weaker, though.

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The plan should be, we lynch fontisian, hiplop passes the bomb to Honey bee, and the Priest checks me tonight.

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Probably going to vote fonti soon.

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I'm asking to be. It's up to the Priest. I think I'm a very good choice, especially if they are worried about dying tonight.

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How come?

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I'm town. I believe that being checked as confirmed town by the Priest is very good both for me personally and the town as a whole. So I'm asking loudly to be checked. Whether the Priest chooses to do so is up to them.

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Didn't think about shenanigans.

All right, if people think checking me is dangerous then I guess it doesn't need to happen.

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No, you're right.

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well no one dying means angel protection, or gambler.

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Scum slip?
There was no flip yet.

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Uh, could be clever Angel protection, or it could be witch trick blocking the night 1 kill. A town jester should have chosen witch trick, so that does seem likely at the moment, no matter fontisian's alignment.

P-edit: No, all survivals are announced.

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Why would ika lie?

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This game has proven unequivocally that it's not hard to claim Priest. That doesn't answer the question, though. What does ika have to gain from this as a gambit? Why would he as scum care enough about lynching you to trade himself and risk a counterclaim?

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There really is no point in an acolyte claiming unless there's a counterclaiming priest, is there? No acolyte claim then.

It's better for the Acolyte to counterclaim because it allows the real Priest to stay hidden. But yes, no need for anyone to claim unless they're counterclaiming.

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I'm guessing the scum shot him for being acolyte since hiplop the priest would be protected.

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where's my damned prod

catching up

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Did you ever claim your role?

You should claim your role.

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Not you! Her.

That reminds me. ika do you know my role?

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Have we gone through mist's interactions yet?

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I am very concerned that fontisian has added fake claiming cop to her town meta.

The end is nigh.

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That makes me like the plan a lot more than I did.

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rubicon shut up your fanfic.

I have fanfic??

(get well soon Titus!)

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So there were a LOT of null/scummy people on fontisian's wagon.

Pretty much everyone off the wagon is town (except possibly Stigmata).

They really wanted her dead.

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I'll miss you holder. You were my favorite person-I've-never-played-with. If you're really leaving though...could you just tell me one thing?

How'd you come up with your handle?

^ This doesn't feel scum-scum at all.

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/Confirm

So now 24 hours from this post the pre-game shall end.

then there is this

That last post is inaccurate. Stigmata and Honey bee have yet to officially confirm.

nice slip heel, he was confirmed that his allies checked in their coven but not game thread. a nice little slip

This might be legit.

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All part of the plan.

I think hiplop might be mislynch bait instead of scum w/ Mist. He buddies her in 526 ("I am glad that you saw what I saw, lol. Means I'm not crazy") and says in 687, "tell me you think Holder's posts could POSSIBLY come from scum. No fucking way." My skim of his scum meta (most of which is, in fairness, outdated) suggests this isn't how he interacts with his partners.

fontisian said she thought Mist was sucking up to hiplop: not sure what that was referring to.

I also kind of liked his reaction to us flashwagoning him day one.

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Mist tried to get Citrus modkilled at one point, so he's probably town (not to mention being shot at).

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I'm confused about what exactly Citrus was doing re: hiplop on day one prior to fontisian's claim, though.

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Who do you think are Mist's partners, ABR?

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Stigmata -- town Jester chooses Witch Trick. Witches shoot Citrus. Citrus survives. Right?

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I'm town.

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Why am I on your list at all?

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The scum are probably inside Stigmata, ZZZX and Albert B. Rampage. Possibly just the last two.

I think hiplop and Unsight may be town based on Mist's posts - this is not very strong and they would be my next suspects.

You're confirmed town. Grib and Atum are town based on their play, supported by interactions with Mist. Citrus is probably town for being shot at. Honey bee is probably town for trying to get herself lynched; in any case, she is not a concern right now.

I'm paranoid because this seems to easy, but the logic checks out.

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Scum (+grib) gotta be in

Why do you say scum "+ Grib"?

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Grib and Atum are town based on their play

Examples?

They are both meta reads. I'll try to put it into words, give me a few minutes.

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Rubicon, do you not have an opinion on interactions between Mist and I?

At first glance, she was buddying up to you. But she also completely ignored your posts directed at her. I don't think it's clearly scum-town or scum-scum so I am trying to read you in other ways.

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Err sorry, I meant AYAW3, forgot the name.

I'm too angry to deal with anything mafia at this point. Riley can either replace or you guys can lynch me. I don't give a fuck.

It's not related to this game. Don't worry about it.

I don't want to replace out for a game that ends in a max of three days anyway. Ugh. If Riley has a replacement lined up, he should have them replace me. If not, I'll stay.

Sorry for the freak out.

Part of the reason she won that one is because people didn't think she'd play that way as scum. Unsurprisingly she flipped town in the game she was actually that frustrated over. Did none of that make you think twice?

So Stigmata is talking about a short game that was run off-site around the time when fontisian claimed Priest. I think that the posts by fontisian quoted above probably influenced Grib's read on her here -- made him think the anger she was showing was genuine. With that in mind, his defense of her looks town.

I also think that when he is scum in games with a lot of town players who know him (me, fontisian, Stigmata, Citrus, others), he essentially resigns himself to being caught. He continues playing and making the best of it, but most of the energy is gone, he doesn't bother with much activity or pretending to sort the other players. This was true in another off-site game played recently, in which fontisian put some light pressure on him and he straight up claimed scum.

In this game, he's been laid back and projecting an attitude of town confidence, apparently unconcerned with people attacking him, making posts like 566 and 942, and asking questions. Poking, putting other players on the defensive.

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I wouldn't shoot ABR because even though he's scum, his prod dodges make me laugh.

so probably ZZZX.

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Not as much detail to that meta read, but when Atum was on my scum team in the last WitchHunt game we played, he posted a lot of awkward one-liner posts, random questions to people about things they've already answered, etc. His posts were disjointed, not part of a consistent thought progression. I haven't picked up on that here.

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D.o.B. probably.

I oppose a mass role call.

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Scum get two kills starting tonight after we lynch ZZZX btw.

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unfortunately you killed the GD last night

Citrus: barring Angel help, I think we actually only get one more lynch after today.

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Who is scum, ABR.

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What specific posts or interactions make you think that?

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ABR: To rephrase that question, I want you to convince me that hiplop is scum. Okay?

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I don't understand the question. Please clarify.

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Oh, you want a summary of the game state. Okay. There are three scum in this setup. Two remaining. All of the deaths so far except Mist have been town, almost certainly. Mist was checked guilty and then claimed scum.

We know that fontisian was Judge, Unsight was Gravedigger, and Honey bee was Benevolant Old Dame. The other dead roles, including Mist's, are unknown. We speculate that the D.o.B. may have died as well due to there being two deaths.

ika, the Priest, claimed another guilty on ZZZX today. ZZZX is trying to counterclaim that he knows ika isn't the Priest but that's pretty clearly bs. That leaves one remaining scum after ZZZX.

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Due to the Last Stand mechanic, tomorrow may be MyLo, so finding the last scum asap is kind of important.

Due to your lack of contributions so far, you are a top suspect for many people. If you're town you're at high risk of being mislynched tomorrow and costing the entire game.

So that's why I'm asking you to explain your reads. Please.

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Don't worry, I won't be mislynched. I'm the loose cannon.

You being almost mislynched and then taking out the wrong person would also be bad, so hearing you explain your reads would still be a good thing. Do you object for some reason? Why?

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anyone want to speculate that stigma is the final scum?

What makes you think she is?

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I have no idea why Grib would have killed Unsight as D.o.B., though - makes me think it was mist, not him

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I'm not claiming. Keeping everything about my role secret is very important to me

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Nah Citrus, stigmata claiming was the right move. If you'd died and she claimed Acolyte, you think she wouldn't have been lynched?

Anyway I'm pretty sure we just lynch ZZZX and then ABR and kindly ask him to loose cannon hiplop and it's gg

(I'm trying not to get bogged down in paranoia about Citrus and Atum)

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Come at me ABR.

The only scenario where you LC me is if you're scum. So we lynch you first. It's that simple.

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I'm still lynching you. If nothing else, that's the funniest possible way for the game to end.

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i'll hammer in the morning unless someone objects or does it first

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VOTE: zzzx

ok.

by the way, in case it was missed, I'm the fanatic

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as much as I would love an extra life, I doubt I'm going to need it (I expect the game to end tomorrow) and you should be checking scum anyway

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ika?

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Why wait? If I had your role I would use it on you immediately, so your plan works well for me. Do you really need me to get five votes on you first or can you just cut to the chase please?

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You're focused on setup mechanics, which is good, but it seems to be leading you to ignore play and motive. Why is ABR doing what he's doing and is it town-motivated? Two possibilities. One, he thinks I'm the last scum. He should kill me immediately. He's not doing that, therefore he doesn't really think I'm scum. Two, he's scum and using this as a threat to keep us from lynching him. He should be lynched. Simple.

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You're ignoring MY motives, too, which is sad. Why the fuck would I bully the loose cannon into going off on me? Like, lol. I'd be talking to him, asking him why he thought I was scum, figuring out how to persuade him. Not fucking calling his bluff, when I would 100% expect him to follow through.

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VOTE: ABR

Only three more.

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In the very very unlikely event ABR is town, the real question is whether hiplop is scum who believed he needed to bomb his confirmed scum partner for cred, not Citrus who has been pretty town all game.

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Do we know whether anyone has shot at you?

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I forget what answer people got about whether Angel protection was revealed.

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Hey, look who knows that killing me is killing town.

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ika, please tell ABR to kill me immediately.

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Do we know whether anyone has shot at you?

^ I ask this because Citrus really should have, if scum.

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I don't have proof that you're scum, Rubicon, just a strong hunch.

If I was the last scum, since I don't have any chance to win, I'd just end the game.

No you wouldn't. You're not the type. I wouldn't either in your shoes. I'd just troll exactly like you are.

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Stigmata, what are you thinking?

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the most wierd one (yet i would be laughing) is if unsight was the final witch all aong

Not possible since Mist and ZZZX both claimed scum. Game would be over.

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-.-

I'll read through your plan while we wait for Citrus, ika.

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Haven't seen anything to convince me that we shouldn't be following ika's plan, which appears to be a confirmed town win. I admire your conviction that Citrus is town, but I'm not willing to bet the game on it at this stage, personally.

What are your thoughts on each player, anyway?

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Rubicon, you better unvote me if you're town. Citrus could literally kill the two of us if he puts me to L-1.

You misunderstood. By 'wait for Citrus' I mean wait for him to vote you so we can call your bluff and do exactly that.

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I think that the main reason I believe Citrus is town is that ika still has both lives. Coordination with demons should have taken care of one of them by now, if the final scum was familiar with the setup. Is there any reason he wouldn't have shot ika?

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ika: It looks like the only way for Stigmata to be scum is if Grib was the real Acolyte, and she knew that he was (by scum Inquisitor check). Is that right?

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What does L-1 mean exactly? Three votes is 'deadline lynch' minus one, four votes is 'day ending hammer lynch' minus one. I need to know how many people I need to convince to vote you before you get out of your meeting.

ISOs do point to Stigmata acolyte more than Grib acolyte.

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I am literally the worst target you could have pulled this gambit on, ABR.

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Well, short of ika.

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For my references, roles currently unaccounted for:

Apprentice
Inquisitor
Jester
Bomber
Spiritualist

Of these, I believe only Apprentice can influence the outcome of the game.

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Not sure what you're getting at. I mean, of all the people to 1v1 or threaten to kill as a strategy to stay alive, I am a really unwise choice. You're only worse because threatening to kill you would confirm him as scum.

Where did Citrus claim Apprentice?

I'm trying to go through your plan without assuming these claims are accurate, since there is

some

room for fake claims depending on what roles Atum and Grib were.

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Unvote

Okay, I went through every possible scenario on your plan, but with Citrus being lynched instead of me because that makes more sense. (Lynching Citrus first is a cop check on him and also catches a hypothetical scum-me in every possible scenario.)

I did find

one

edge case that I think you missed, which could result in a scum win if Angel protection fails. I'm talking to Titus about it privately because I don't want to talk about it publicly just yet.

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(And yes, I still think Citrus is town, so that's from a POV of trying to break the game without considering our reads.)

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Okay, I think the plan works (as long as Citrus is lynched first).

There is a possible counter, but it's not very likely and we can still win if it happens.

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I realized I missed something. Hold on.

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Nvm, still works.

I want Citrus to comment on the plan first, in case he's town and sees something we're missing. Then I'll vote him.

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I think doing both today will lose the game if it's hiplop and he manages two kills.

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Unless that was a reaction test, in which case, sorry.

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I'm not trying to piss you off, I'm trying to understand every detail of the plan myself, and I'm talking while I work things through. It's more fun that way.

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VOTE: ABR

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Stigmata?

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What's up?

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I don't really think Grib would pressure you the way he did as your Acolyte.

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It doesn't accomplish much as distancing since most people were townreading you. If he had called you town, it would be hard to conclude you were the Priest based on it since everyone else said so too. And he had other townreads.

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Yay good game.

I wanted so badly for you to be scum, ABR

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What was the long shot Citrus could have maybe won with?

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Ika still OP as cop