Mafia v. Wolves Redux: Finally Over!

[DrippingGoofball]

You're now suggesting that Flay might be a cop??? With you making excuses for him, he doesn't need to show up!

[Mastermind of Sin]

MoS, of all the players here, I would venture to say that you best know my playstyle. Therefore, your comment above is, too me, uber-scummy. I don't think the newbies players are going to see through it, unfortunately. You know what you're doing. You know that I am ALWAYS an easy lynch for the scum to orchestrate, and a desirable one, for two reasons; the first being that I am unpredictable and will shake every and any tree for rotten apples, and impossible to manipulate. Why don't you guys wait, and nightkill me? I am not going to be here tomorrow morning. I've attacked too many people, and some of these people ARE scum. And if none are... I will attack way more people tomorrow when the list is shorter. I will not be suffered to live.

Your question asking for me to speculate on Flay's disappearance is you making an excuse for Flay. That two players covering Flay. You (and you've been trying to save Flay's buttski a few times previously) and mememe. There is no excuse - he is absent on purpose.

Right now, my favorite scum candidates are Flay, MoS, and memne. You guys are making it too easy, like shooting fish in a barrel.

DGB, the fact that you are so desperate to pull out the "this is how I always play" card is just one more mark against you. You're a good enough player that you should know that doesn't mean anything, so I can only assume that you're trying to pull this ploy in an attempt to get everyone else who doesn't know better to fall for it.

And don't give me this bullshit about you being an easy lynch. If you were an easy lynch, you'd be dead by now. This day has been going on for quite a long time, and you haven't been lynched yet. This game right here is proof that you are not an easy lynch.

As for you being nightkilled, I'd be surprised if any scum killed you if we let you live, for a number of reasons:

a) If you're scum, and you probably are, your team isn't going to kill you.
b) Your flailing around is so helpful to scum it's not even funny. You claim you're going to die because you've attacked scum. You've attacked so many people in the game, it's not even funny. If you go around saying everyone is scum at one point or another, no one's going to believe you when you actually hit on scum. Therefore, scum has no reason to want to kill you, regardless of your alignment. All you do is help them.

MoS's attempt to tie his wagon to Fuldu is noted.

Case in point, DGB. You're flailing around, putting out every single ludicrous theory you can think of, even if they don't make any sense. I in no way attempted to "tie" the Raffles wagon to Fuldu. Fuldu's listed reasons were nearly the same as the ones I'd given so many pages ago. They merely showed that he had read and understood why Raffles could be scum, something that PBuG didn't seem to know. He did remind me of the fact that a Raffles lynch gives us more information than anything else, and I agreed with that. I'd be interested to see you justify your statement that I tried to "tie" the wagon to Fuldu.

It's also interesting that the wagon is now

my

wagon, since just a while ago DGB was calling it

Flay's

wagon, talking about how he created this wagon and then disappeared, making him scum. Make up your mind, DGB. Whose wagon is it?

[Mastermind of Sin]

You're now suggesting that Flay might be a cop??? With you making excuses for him, he doesn't need to show up!

What's to say he isn't? You don't know his role, and neither do we.

[Shanba]

unvote Vote: DGB

[DrippingGoofball]

When I decided to give this game my 100%, I knew I'd be either the lynch, or the nightkill, the second I started pulling my usual antics! I guess I just love going down in a great ball of fire. The technical term this time will be "deadline lynch" which is a pity, because that means a reduced number of players on my wagon. The scum hardly needs to push. A handful of misguided townies will do the work for them.

Mod: please extend deadline

I want my wagon to be a glorious wagon, the mother of all wagons! Not just some piddly little deadline wagon.

Come on town! We need as much players as possible on the lynch. Otherwise I will have wasted my time. Please ask for a deadline, and start voting! Don't disappoint me!

I want a grand, spectacular send off.

[XReyoX]

Mod: please replace those who didn't pick up their prods

The activity of the game is lower than a C9.

[Kison]

Flay still has not posted? Vote stays.

[Mastermind of Sin]

We have a deadline? When? This game is hardly inactive enough for a deadline, even with so many players not posting. The rest of us are keeping it going.

Deadline extension, please

[Akbar]

Right now, my favorite scum candidates are

Flay

, MoS, and memne. You guys are making it too easy, like shooting fish in a barrel.

(strikethrough by Akbar)
I would add BM and Shanba to the list though. I guess everyone voting you. Right now the town is clearly not in charge of the voting. But, your doing a great job of shaking things up. Just because MoS and his Shanbaflunky voted for you doesn't mean your getting lynched. No need for the doom speech.
In regards to the ESE "clearly not being Mafia, just because its not spelled that way." This game takes place in a town with horse drawn carriages. The mafia don't have to be pasta-eating, cadillac-driving, guidos with tommy-guns. ESE could just be the flavor.

[Battle Mage]

Akbar do you have anything to back up your comments, or do you find it satisfactory to defend your scumbuddies in broad daylight?

Right now, my favorite scum candidates are

Flay

, MoS, and memne. You guys are making it too easy, like shooting fish in a barrel.

(strikethrough by Akbar)
I would add BM and Shanba to the list though. I guess everyone voting you. Right now the town is clearly not in charge of the voting. But, your doing a great job of shaking things up. Just because MoS and his Shanbaflunky voted for you doesn't mean your getting lynched. No need for the doom speech.
In regards to the ESE "clearly not being Mafia, just because its not spelled that way." This game takes place in a town with horse drawn carriages. The mafia don't have to be pasta-eating, cadillac-driving, guidos with tommy-guns. ESE could just be the flavor.

[Fuldu]

It's all well and good for people to be requesting that the deadline be rescinded, but I wouldn't expect it to happen. The rules pretty clearly indicate that second deadlines (which this is) are "final and binding." That gives us a little over 24 hours.

[Akbar]

Akbar do you have anything to back up your comments, or do you find it satisfactory to defend your scumbuddies in broad daylight?

In regards to you personally or your whole team? Because several people already talked about how your acting different. It just never stuck because Mos was busy leading the charge on Raffles.
Course then MoS changed his position on Raffles and decided to bash PBuG for voting the same person. Now Raffles is "the most informative lynch" which I guess is a quiet way of keeping the vote hop going without appearing too scummy.
DGB is right about Memne's posts. I think there intentionally being written to confuse the readers. I still can't figure out how Memne got the pass on role fishing and then blamed it on the target for "volunteering" information.
Shanba's feigned attack on Memne, followed by the hand shake later, reeks of distancing.
MoS's response to my posts kinda clued me into his partner though. When I mentioned how Shanba was scummy, he jumped down my throat saying he didn't give a f*** what I thought. But, I post suspicions about DGB and it changes to, oh good point, I can see that.
About Flay, I think he's doing it on purpose for Out of Game reasons. He threatened to leave the game if activity didn't pick up. Of course I just gave him an out to use, but if we're hemming up folks lurking, as xReyox pointed out, there's plenty to choose from.

[Battle Mage]

did they? i dont recall that. please explain how my behaviour here is different, and im sure i can reference you to multiple games in which i have acted exactly the same.
BM

Akbar do you have anything to back up your comments, or do you find it satisfactory to defend your scumbuddies in broad daylight?

In regards to you personally or your whole team? Because several people already talked about how your acting different. It just never stuck because Mos was busy leading the charge on Raffles.
Course then MoS changed his position on Raffles and decided to bash PBuG for voting the same person. Now Raffles is "the most informative lynch" which I guess is a quiet way of keeping the vote hop going without appearing too scummy.
DGB is right about Memne's posts. I think there intentionally being written to confuse the readers. I still can't figure out how Memne got the pass on role fishing and then blamed it on the target for "volunteering" information.
Shanba's feigned attack on Memne, followed by the hand shake later, reeks of distancing.
MoS's response to my posts kinda clued me into his partner though. When I mentioned how Shanba was scummy, he jumped down my throat saying he didn't give a f*** what I thought. But, I post suspicions about DGB and it changes to, oh good point, I can see that.
About Flay, I think he's doing it on purpose for Out of Game reasons. He threatened to leave the game if activity didn't pick up. Of course I just gave him an out to use, but if we're hemming up folks lurking, as xReyox pointed out, there's plenty to choose from.

[spectrumvoid]

request replacement

I took over GL's game, and there's a ton of things I have to work out there (as I'm sure BM can testify) and I don't have the time to play this game any more...

I'm avaliable for future replacement. I will also replace into any of Phoebus's games in future. Very sorry for dragging this.

[Battle Mage]

yes i can vouch for SV on this. lol

[Mastermind of Sin]

Akbar do you have anything to back up your comments, or do you find it satisfactory to defend your scumbuddies in broad daylight?

In regards to you personally or your whole team? Because several people already talked about how your acting different. It just never stuck because Mos was busy leading the charge on Raffles.
Course then MoS changed his position on Raffles and decided to bash PBuG for voting the same person. Now Raffles is "the most informative lynch" which I guess is a quiet way of keeping the vote hop going without appearing too scummy.
DGB is right about Memne's posts. I think there intentionally being written to confuse the readers. I still can't figure out how Memne got the pass on role fishing and then blamed it on the target for "volunteering" information.
Shanba's feigned attack on Memne, followed by the hand shake later, reeks of distancing.
MoS's response to my posts kinda clued me into his partner though. When I mentioned how Shanba was scummy, he jumped down my throat saying he didn't give a f*** what I thought. But, I post suspicions about DGB and it changes to, oh good point, I can see that.
About Flay, I think he's doing it on purpose for Out of Game reasons. He threatened to leave the game if activity didn't pick up. Of course I just gave him an out to use, but if we're hemming up folks lurking, as xReyox pointed out, there's plenty to choose from.

Interesting. You've got it all worked out, don't you? I look forward to making you eat your words.

[Fuldu]

As we edge toward the deadline, I believe we stand at four votes on DGB, three on Flay and three on Raffles. On the one hand, we need five on somebody if there's going to be any lynch at all, and going no lynch at this stage would be a grievous waste of a day. On the other hand, saying we need a lynch means that scum can basically cherry-pick a desirable wagon and usually provide an entirely valid rationale for their decision.

Given those facts, I'd like to request that

everyone

who is not presently voting one of these three wagons do so. And give a reason for why they selected that wagon out of the three choices. Alternatively, if you'd like to try to convincingly argue in favor of an entirely different wagon, I'll accept that, as well, but I suspect that ship has probably sailed at this point.

Also, I will likely be on again later tonight or tomorrow morning, but I will be away from the computer for the last 4-5 hours before the deadline.

[TBuG]

I'm okay with a lynch on any one of those three, and honestly, I don't see why I'm voting Flay, so

Unvote, Vote: Raffles

[Mastermind of Sin]

Good thinking, Fuldu

[Akbar]

did they? i dont recall that. please explain how my behaviour here is different, and im sure i can reference you to multiple games in which i have acted exactly the same.

You want me to convince you that your scum? I don't think that will be useful considering you won't be voting yourself.

Interesting. You've got it all worked out, don't you? I look forward to making you eat your words.

Yes, tonight in fact, right? That's what you'd like to say. At least when my corpse is examined tomorrow, it will show how Shanba showed up and went straight after a townie when no suspicion was on me. Flay's support of Shanba's attack was noted, though I'm not convinced he's scum yet.

@SV Hate to see ya leave, your one of the few people I trusted around here.

[theopor_COD]

I could happily join a Battle Mage wagon!

Raffles and DGB strike me as though they'll be more information based lynches, I'm not overly keen on either of them as lynch candidates. Flay's dissapearing act is all that's really against him and others have done similar. I'll give it till tomorrow and will then vote one of the wagons.

[theopor_COD]

Infact

Unvote, Vote Battle Mage

~n9v~ your not cleared but no one else seems interested in your behaviour day one.

[Mastermind of Sin]

did they? i dont recall that. please explain how my behaviour here is different, and im sure i can reference you to multiple games in which i have acted exactly the same.

You want me to convince you that your scum? I don't think that will be useful considering you won't be voting yourself.

Interesting. You've got it all worked out, don't you? I look forward to making you eat your words.

Yes, tonight in fact, right? That's what you'd like to say. At least when my corpse is examined tomorrow, it will show how Shanba showed up and went straight after a townie when no suspicion was on me. Flay's support of Shanba's attack was noted, though I'm not convinced he's scum yet.

@SV Hate to see ya leave, your one of the few people I trusted around here.

I really, really hate the "when I turn up townie, you'll see!" argument...

[Akbar]

I really, really hate the "when I turn up townie, you'll see!" argument...

I really, really hate the "I'm gonna lynch a bunch of townies and claim its for information purposes." argument.....

[Battle Mage]

No Akbar. I want you to prove to me (and everyone else) that i have been acting different in this game to others.

Theo, at the risk of being call opportunistic, i reccommend u reveal the reason for your votes.

BM

did they? i dont recall that. please explain how my behaviour here is different, and im sure i can reference you to multiple games in which i have acted exactly the same.

You want me to convince you that your scum? I don't think that will be useful considering you won't be voting yourself.

Interesting. You've got it all worked out, don't you? I look forward to making you eat your words.

Yes, tonight in fact, right? That's what you'd like to say. At least when my corpse is examined tomorrow, it will show how Shanba showed up and went straight after a townie when no suspicion was on me. Flay's support of Shanba's attack was noted, though I'm not convinced he's scum yet.

@SV Hate to see ya leave, your one of the few people I trusted around here.