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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:10 am

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^my scum read on Ac is much stronger, and a large part of it is I realize that he is much more guilty of doing those things than you are.

You want me lynched today right? I'm happy to oblige, just help me lynch Ac.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:15 pm

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In post 443, Dr Pants wrote:This is semi true, the thing that lets scum shift wagons is that they can delay the lynches. You saw what happened in Naz/Sns/N_M, N_M was the lynch for most of the day until Naz changed his mind. Time alone changes wagons, which is also why Ac's "what's the hurry we have a week" comment is super scummy

Wouldn't this imply that the lynches we had were on at least 1 scum then? If you are aware of this, why have you taken it upon yourself to shift the wagons?
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:21 pm

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In post 446, Maruchan wrote:because since he unvote'd, he's been towntelling the shit out of himself

And the play before he unvoted? Have the problems you had with those dissolved?
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:22 pm

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Its possible that there was scum on one of the lynched. But I don't really have a way of knowing, so I'd rather follow my reads.
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:24 pm

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the problem in particular with our group Xay, is that strategically both you and Maru make sense as scum.

If you are scum, then you are town reading me while the other scum is getting the rest of the town to scum read me.
If Maru is scum, then the other scum is trying to get you to scum read me.

Or the third alternative, where we are all town and scum is stirring shit up.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:25 pm

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In post 452, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 446, Maruchan wrote:because since he unvote'd, he's been towntelling the shit out of himself

And the play before he unvoted? Have the problems you had with those dissolved?

the play since outweighs the play before, such that in the scales of scummy actions on one side and towny actions on the other, the towny side is currently heavier and therefore the dominant factor in said scales.

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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:29 pm

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In post 453, Dr Pants wrote:Its possible that there was scum on one of the lynched. But I don't really have a way of knowing, so I'd rather follow my reads.

From your analysis, you should be reading ac as trying to buy time to shift the wagon off his scumbuddy, no? I'm uncomfortable that you probably know this is the case, yet you're completely for it.

Your plan is great, it makes no sense coming from scum, but maybe that's what's gonna fuck us up.

The problem is, Naz and ac aren't the towmiest here, so this plan obviously points to Pantstown.

And yet, I'm still slightly bothered with the plan.
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:32 pm

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Trust my Ac read at the very least. Even with out the clock comment, he's still scummy as all hell. Including the clock comment, its a possibility that Maru or Sns was scum. A scum flip on Ac could point to this, but without any flips its harder to tell.

I'm ok with Naz/Sns/N_M sticking with Sns if Ac goes, I'll let them decide that though.
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:36 pm

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And yet the beauty of the plan only comes true if YOU decide the lynches alone
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:39 pm

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yeah. I know, its pretty selfish.

but given how dangerous it is for me to be alive with so many people scum reading me, I figured the best thing to do would be to at least take down my top scum reads with me
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:40 pm

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read through Ac's ISO and tell me what you think. IMO, he's a much better lynch than Espresso or Salamance
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:47 pm

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I can understand your AC read and it's a lynch I actually wouldn't mind seeing but if he is scum shouldn't his tentativeness to hammer suggest a lynch was already on his partner? Probably Maru since that's the lynch he was trying to dissuade
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:48 pm

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Like I said, its possible but it relies on Ac flipping scum. It also could be Sns, which is why I'll let your group decide on it.

Additionally, I said I would self lynch if Ac got lynched. I plan on committing to this.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:27 pm

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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:08 pm

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I very much think pants is scum. I don't feel like I need to explain this opinion at this point because it has been heavily laid out throughout the thread, both by myself and other people.

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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:46 pm

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then help me die by lynching Ac
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:58 pm

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In post 460, Dr Pants wrote:read through Ac's ISO and tell me what you think. IMO, he's a much better lynch than Espresso or Salamance

I think Sala is town, idk why. Maybe because everybody else has said he's town, but I haven't put significant effort into reading outside of our group.

I know Espresso has slipped a ton, but honestly I don't find it very towntelling? He seems to have bounced back after the lynch, which I like.

I can see ac being scum, but I'll to compare ISOs and firm that up soon. Possible ac/maru? Or ac/sns? He seems to be more focused on getting me to vote you though, so possible the former.
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:05 pm

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In post 459, Dr Pants wrote:yeah. I know, its pretty selfish.

but given how dangerous it is for me to be alive with so many people scum reading me, I figured the best thing to do would be to at least take down my top scum reads with me

I get your plan and what you're trying to achieve, and since you came up with him I'm sure you do too.

Which is why I don't understand why you're letting the sns/NM/Naz group decide their own lynch.

The beauty of the plan is that it's town motivated on your part, this makes no sense if you're scum, unless your buddy is competent and universally townread, and is prepared to carry the game. If that isn't the case, you're probably town willing to sacrifice yourself, while you get to decide the other 2 lynches.

The moment you let a group decide on their own, you allow scum to influence the lynches, that otherwise would be free of scum motivation. Which is why I'm also slightly hesitant to talk about these lynches with you. If you open it to discussion, scum could just manipulate you into mislynching, and nobody is going to oppose it because it's at the price of your head, and ultimately your decision.

I don't know if this makes any sense to you, but I'm saying you should enforce the lynches on your own.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:31 pm

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it makes sense to me, but when it comes to the naz/n_m/sns group I don't have anywhere near as strong of a read as I do with Ac. I'd like to see them go at it for a while and see if anything comes up
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:28 pm

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In post 464, Espressojet wrote:I very much think pants is scum. I don't feel like I need to explain this opinion at this point because it has been heavily laid out throughout the thread, both by myself and other people.

Jussayin'


what was the point of this?
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:37 pm

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In post 469, Dr Pants wrote:
In post 464, Espressojet wrote:I very much think pants is scum. I don't feel like I need to explain this opinion at this point because it has been heavily laid out throughout the thread, both by myself and other people.

Jussayin'


what was the point of this?


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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:01 pm

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you are a strange one
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:04 pm

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Espresso why is your vote on Sala and what do you think of what Pants is saying about ac?
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:06 pm

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Also, for anyone who thinks that Espresso is scum, he's rejecting a plan that prevents him from getting lynched.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:27 pm

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In post 473, Dr Pants wrote:Also, for anyone who thinks that Espresso is scum, he's rejecting a plan that prevents him from getting lynched.


Was this the purpose of your plan?

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