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Post Post #3625 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:20 am

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xofelf 3 (ActionDan, Moogle Dance Troupe, BBmolla)
Oversoul 3 (Egg, ProHawk, Lord Mhork)
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Post Post #3626 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:30 am

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In post 3623, shos wrote:having three tracking millers in the same game? don't you think that kinda annihilates too much power?

No. The only thing it annihilates is a watcher or a tracker. We don't even know if we have any. And even if we do... it's one PR, that effectively becomes useful after we lynch one anti-town role.

In post 3624, shos wrote:btw being naraku with an inuyasha fakeclaim would be totally cewlz

Fits. Naraku is, from what I can tell in the wikia, the antithesis of Inuyasha.
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Post Post #3627 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:38 am

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Post Post #3628 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:39 am

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yeah no not stringing up townreads.

fuck that.
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Post Post #3629 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:43 am

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I just don't think they're all scum, and at that point it's a 33% stab at a theory scum amongst them - which is known as 'random chance'

I could pick any set of 3 and have the same basic theoretical chance for there to be scum there. So it's not really a value lynch.
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Post Post #3630 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:44 am

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I guess what I was saying is, I don't really read any of them besides Moogle as town, but it's still not much of a value lynch because there's no assurance that one is Band of 7, and even if there is, no assurance that the scum one claimed (though maybe if Naraku has the names he's in on that gag now and can bus that one later for cred - hint, hint.
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Post Post #3631 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:20 am

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I have townreads of varying strengths on all three of them.

What is your Mist read?
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Post Post #3632 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:24 am

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In post 3627, Squirrel Girl wrote:
Unvote: Majiffy
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Laugh My Fucking Ass Off.


You're pathetic.

Read The Fucking Game


and you'll realize how wrong you are.

Or perhaps you know it, and you're either scum, or just not interested in actually lynching scum? Either way...

Fuck. You.
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Post Post #3633 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:30 am

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Well that response was completely out of nowhere.
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Post Post #3634 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:34 am

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In post 3401, Squirrel Girl wrote:
What do you dislike about my cases and/or why do you town read either of them?


Majiffy is town because this is not only his town play, but he's also right on the ball with his Shos read. I get where he's coming from, and that's pretty darn town.

In post 3410, Kagami wrote:Actually, BoP's claim makes it almost certainly 20-7-1.


Why?

In post 3418, Majiffy wrote:
In post 3416, ActionDan wrote:point of order. If you want to go with the SK option the size is 21-6-1.

Ok but that still doesnt answer who would be the sk


It should be pretty obvious who the SK is.

In post 3419, Egg wrote:Why are we talking SK with one kill and some people thinking two scum teams?


Because there's definitely multiple kills in a 28p game. It also decreases the likelihood of a single scum team.

In post 3440, geists wrote:
Mhork didn't exactly defend the hell out of lemni but there was this one point where he talked me out of the xof wagon and then voted Shos that bothered me a little.


So you think Lemni and Elf are connected?

In post 3441, Squirrel Girl wrote:
If you like the idea of Nero scum, why not vote Nero with me?


I can't speak for my other head, but for me it's that I have much stronger scum reads, while I'm just paranoid on Nero.

In post 3451, Egg wrote:I kind of wonder if it's possible that xofelf and shos are both scum. But part of me feels like we couldn't have done THAT well on Day 1.


Why not?

In post 3482, Birds of Prey wrote:That means we could see who would policy kill ap as sk?


No thank you.

In post 3511, ProHawk wrote:People still want BoP dead?


Yes. Why don't you?

In post 3520, Nero Cain wrote:can we just lynch BOP

or Mhork

or SG

or Bulba

or neil

or abomination

or mist

or kat

or jiffy

I don't have town reads on any of those


Yes. Maybe. No. No. No. No. Yes. Maybe. No.

In post 3572, Nero Cain wrote:Me pointing out that SG switched her reads on Abom is pro-town 'cause that's like what town is supposed to do.


Whenever someone starts talking about their actions in terms of what town is supposed to do, I break out my trusty rope.

In post 3605, shos wrote:Yes.

It actually makes sense that one of the puppets is scum. I think the self vanillaizer should not do it. Try to make use of the ability ehen you can - since the existence of other puppets makes you vanillaizing yourself useless. It just removes town power.


How is someone making sure that scum can't use them to perform the NK removing town power?

In post 3622, Majiffy wrote:inb4 Shos is actually Naraku and I rage post-game.


Shos is actually Naraku, and you will rage post-game.

In post 2241, shos wrote:I am Inuyasha, Town Demon Scenter Searching Empathic Vigilante.

Lol @ role name yea indeed

Basically I use tessaiga to duel someone, and I can learn 1s abilities from it, which are probably likely vigging abilities.

Also, each morning I am told if i was targetted at night, and by what. This can be undead, demon, both or none.


Since no one did this yesterday, let's play a game of what's wrong with this claim. First off, that claim name is way too crowded. The only things I believe are "Demon Scenter Searching Empathic", but I will get to that. The second red flag is the fact that Shos has no idea how his abilities work. Now Cephrir abilities may be confusing, but you can generally get a good idea how they work by reading your freaking role PM, where all the abilites are listed in a nice little row. The third red flag is where he thinks the dueling ability is probably like a vig. Are you kidding me? He supposedly has "Vigilante" in his role name, and he doesn't know if he can vig or not?! Please. In reality, I think his actual role name looks something like this:

In post 2241, shos wrote:
Town
Demon Scenter Searching Empathic
Vigilante
Serial Killer


Given that Cephrir has a history of over powering his SKs (FE:A had a hexmage SK who could produce an additional SK), it makes sense that this SK would get information about what targeted him, while searching out his puppets via target, and if being off, getting information on them. He probably can't kill directly.

Unvote

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Post Post #3635 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:49 am

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In post 3627, Squirrel Girl wrote:
Unvote: Majiffy
Vote: neil1113

In post 3633, Majiffy wrote:Well that response was completely out of nowhere.


Sorry, that was uncalled for and out of character for me. I apologize. I'm not going to bother explaining or trying to make excuses, so I'll leave it at that. Sorry.
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Post Post #3636 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:51 am

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In post 3634, BulbaFenix wrote:...
In post 3410, Kagami wrote:Actually, BoP's claim makes it almost certainly 20-7-1.


Why?
...


BoP has claimed an incarnation of naraku, hakudoshi. If that's true, or even if it's a mod-provided fakeclaim, it suggests that the incarnations are town.

If naraku has his own faction, the incarnations should be his buddies.

Still want a xof lynch. Her commuting is insane, and completely contrary to what town would do in her position. Mhork is pretty suspicious for defending it, too.

Neil's pretty out there, I don't disagree on the votes. I was pretty pro-BoP lynch yesterday, but my suspicion in that direction has faded a bit given the events of today.

Shos could be naraku, but if he is, then he's would have a really hard time explaining why his empathic Vigging isn't generating any additional kills as the game progressed. Seems like a terrible claim for an SK.
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Post Post #3637 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:55 am

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Not shos today Bulba. The claim is out there and he won't be able to work around it. It will become clear soon enough.
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Post Post #3638 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:00 am

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In post 3636, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:Still want a xof lynch. Her commuting is insane, and completely contrary to what town would do in her position. Mhork is pretty suspicious for defending it, too.


Everyone seems to have the same conclusion, Mhork is scummy. Mhork defending XOF is very telling, but I feel like it'd be better to lynch Mhork, and if Mhork flips scum, we have their partner lined up. That's 3/7 possible scum down by Night Three. And IF (and this is a big IF) Shos is who Shos says he is, then we have a vig who can help us find the 4th scum. If not then by Day Four we lynch Shos and BAM! 4/8 scum/SK down.

Can't get much easier than that?

VOTE: Mhork

I feel like it'd be easier to see Mhork hung right now than XOF, considering other's reads...
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Post Post #3639 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:00 am

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VOTE: Mist

If we cannot lynch probable scum in Young and Beautiful, let's get Mist.
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Post Post #3640 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:01 am

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In post 3625, Cephrir wrote:
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xofelf 3 (ActionDan, Moogle Dance Troupe, BBmolla)
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neil1113 3 (shos, beastcharizard, Svenskt Stal)

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Young and Beautiful 1 (Birds of Prey)
HighShroomish 1 (Abomination)
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Not Voting 4 (everyone else)

14 to lynch. Deadline: August 3, 3 PM EST.


And why the hell am I even a liable lynch? :/
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Post Post #3641 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:01 am

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In post 3638, Lemniscate wrote:
In post 3636, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:Still want a xof lynch. Her commuting is insane, and completely contrary to what town would do in her position. Mhork is pretty suspicious for defending it, too.


Everyone seems to have the same conclusion, Mhork is scummy. Mhork defending XOF is very telling, but I feel like it'd be better to lynch Mhork, and if Mhork flips scum, we have their partner lined up. That's 3/7 possible scum down by Night Three. And IF (and this is a big IF) Shos is who Shos says he is, then we have a vig who can help us find the 4th scum. If not then by Day Four we lynch Shos and BAM! 4/8 scum/SK down.

Can't get much easier than that?

VOTE: Mhork

I feel like it'd be easier to see Mhork hung right now than XOF, considering other's reads...


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Post Post #3642 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:01 am

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Sigh.. really? Fucking computer. Hold on.
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Post Post #3643 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:02 am

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In post 3636, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:Still want a xof lynch. Her commuting is insane, and completely contrary to what town would do in her position. Mhork is pretty suspicious for defending it, too.


Everyone seems to have the same conclusion, Mhork is scummy. Mhork defending XOF is very telling, but I feel like it'd be better to lynch Mhork, and if Mhork flips scum, we have their partner lined up. That's 3/7 possible scum down by Night Three. And IF (and this is a big IF) Shos is who Shos says he is, then we have a vig who can help us find the 4th scum. If not then by Day Four we lynch Shos and BAM! 4/8 scum/SK down.

Can't get much easier than that?

VOTE: Mhork

I feel like it'd be easier to see Mhork hung right now than XOF, considering other's reads...

P.Edit: Tis was me.
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Post Post #3644 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:03 am

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What?
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Post Post #3645 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:04 am

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She checked her email and private messages. I thought she logged me back in. When it refreshed, it logged me in. I didn't realize I had to wait for it to bring me to this page again in order for it to register my name.
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Post Post #3646 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:05 am

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In post 3643, neil1113 wrote:
In post 3636, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:Still want a xof lynch. Her commuting is insane, and completely contrary to what town would do in her position. Mhork is pretty suspicious for defending it, too.


Everyone seems to have the same conclusion, Mhork is scummy. Mhork defending XOF is very telling, but I feel like it'd be better to lynch Mhork, and if Mhork flips scum, we have their partner lined up. That's 3/7 possible scum down by Night Three. And IF (and this is a big IF) Shos is who Shos says he is, then we have a vig who can help us find the 4th scum. If not then by Day Four we lynch Shos and BAM! 4/8 scum/SK down.

Can't get much easier than that?

VOTE: Mhork

I feel like it'd be easier to see Mhork hung right now than XOF, considering other's reads...

P.Edit: Tis was me.


Hence why I wrote that in the post edit before I submitted the post.
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Post Post #3647 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:05 am

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In post 3636, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:
BoP has claimed an incarnation of naraku, hakudoshi. If that's true, or even if it's a mod-provided fakeclaim, it suggests that the incarnations are town.


I'm not that knowledgeable about flavor. I'm just going off of actions and what makes sense setup-wise.

In post 3637, Majiffy wrote:Not shos today Bulba. The claim is out there and he won't be able to work around it. It will become clear soon enough.


Okay. Tomorrow though.

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Post Post #3648 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:09 am

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In post 3647, BulbaFenix wrote:
In post 3636, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:
BoP has claimed an incarnation of naraku, hakudoshi. If that's true, or even if it's a mod-provided fakeclaim, it suggests that the incarnations are town.


I'm not that knowledgeable about flavor. I'm just going off of actions and what makes sense setup-wise.

In post 3637, Majiffy wrote:Not shos today Bulba. The claim is out there and he won't be able to work around it. It will become clear soon enough.


Okay. Tomorrow though.

Unvote

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Why pursue this avenue over Mhork? What is your read on Lord Mhork or on Xof?
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Post Post #3649 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:14 am

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In post 3648, neil1113 wrote:
Why pursue this avenue over Mhork?


Because BoP is a strong scum read, whereas Mhork isn't.

In post 3648, neil1113 wrote:
What is your read on Lord Mhork or on Xof?


Mhork is under "sort later" due to some of his interactions. There's really nothing that stands out to me other than his hard defending lurkers. As for Elf, I'm giving him some leeway due to his claim. Of the 2, I'd compromise on Mhork. I'd rather lynch one of my strong scum reads, though.

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