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Post Post #3400 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:54 pm

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ascetic.

I have some thoughts but I'll wait for xof to answer.
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Post Post #3401 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:56 pm

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In post 3323, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:These wagons are bad, and you shouldn't be voting multiple if you can vote the same person twice. Putting your votes on different people is lower utility than being vanilla (unless you can achieve two lynches with your ability). At the very least, we know jiffy isn't undead, and the lemon-NC interactions make him unlikely scum.

I disagree with how you think DV should be played - by only voting once we have more people on the flipped scum wagon, later in the game that is more info. We would have had less if I voted twice. I have no idea if I can swing a double lynch, but if two people both go to L-1 I may be willing to give it the college try depending on who it is. "Knowing" Jiffy is demon is a long cry from making him not worth voting. Unless you're saying you know no scum are demon? If you know that I'll move votes asap.

In post 3327, BulbaFenix wrote:Why?? Pointless votes on those 2 right now.

My Nero case was made yesterday.
My Majiffy case is more gut and is basically based on how he's sidelining himself this game.
What do you dislike about my cases and/or why do you town read either of them?

In post 3343, BulbaFenix wrote:I don't see how that's a bad question, but I'm just chalking that up to different approaches in regards to roles.

If scum is on your back, and you confirm to him you're town, he either needs to lie about it (confirming him as scum later after you flip or confirm to others) or has to give up the mislynch allowing you space to work.
If town is on your back you create for him the beginning of a town bloc by confirming someone for him and also get someone off your back so you have space to work and a new ally.
If town is not on your back...you basically just make a town bloc start, but gain no extra working space.

I would submit it is optimal play to target people who suspect you with that power.
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Post Post #3402 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:57 pm

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Chortle. Sure thing sg im totally sidelining myself.
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Post Post #3403 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:57 pm

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I snicker at your chortle.
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Post Post #3404 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:31 pm

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Um, what is an ascetic? I don't know what that means. I've never come across that role.
Also, you can have commuter as a role? I mean I understand the action as it was one of the ones I could do but, I didn't realize it could be a specific role.
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Post Post #3405 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:34 pm

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An ascetic is untargetable by anything but night kills. You're claiming selected untargetability. Both existing is unlikely.

You "commuted" on a night when you'd be most likely to be checked by a cop/vigged.
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Post Post #3406 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:43 pm

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Xof is actually claiming Jack of Trades though - by the logic you are using to suggest both existing is unlikely it would also make any Jack with a Cop power unlikely in a game with another Cop power. I don't really buy that as strong logic. Especially in a large.

If Xof had possessed a one shot bulletproof vest power - would its use last night be scummy?
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Post Post #3407 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:56 pm

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Yes.
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Post Post #3408 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:56 pm

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Commuting is much worse, of course.
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Post Post #3409 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:01 pm

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And it's probably the case that one scumteam is all undead, and the other is all demon, if the other is groupscum at all. I maintain that it's probably 20-7-1, with the 7 being undead and the 1 being demon.
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Post Post #3410 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:07 pm

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Actually, BoP's claim makes it almost certainly 20-7-1.
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Post Post #3411 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:07 pm

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In post 3406, Squirrel Girl wrote:Xof is actually claiming Jack of Trades though - by the logic you are using to suggest both existing is unlikely it would also make any Jack with a Cop power unlikely in a game with another Cop power. I don't really buy that as strong logic. Especially in a large.

If Xof had possessed a one shot bulletproof vest power - would its use last night be scummy?


Yes. There should only be one cop unless they are faction cops. This is a large. I would expect trackers, watchers, hiders and other investigative, but not two of the same role.

The only reason I'm not outright scumreading Xoef for his claim is there seem to be a fair amount of opposites in this game and my flavor is kinda part of something (if I understand it).
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Post Post #3412 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:16 pm

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I dont see a problem with a comm and an asc coexisting.

Who would be a theoretical demon sk?
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Post Post #3413 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:16 pm

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Cabd reviewed this game.
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Post Post #3414 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:18 pm

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Is that supposed to refute my position?
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Post Post #3415 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:20 pm

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In post 3410, Kagami wrote:Actually, BoP's claim makes it almost certainly 20-7-1.


Could you maybe keep it to one account?
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Post Post #3416 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:23 pm

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point of order. If you want to go with the SK option the size is 21-6-1.
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #3417 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:27 pm

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In post 3414, Majiffy wrote:Is that supposed to refute my position?


Not at all. It's reason to think that considerably more overlap than ascetic and commuter could exist as town roles in this game.
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Post Post #3418 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:29 pm

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In post 3416, ActionDan wrote:point of order. If you want to go with the SK option the size is 21-6-1.

Ok but that still doesnt answer who would be the sk
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Post Post #3419 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:39 pm

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Why are we talking SK with one kill and some people thinking two scum teams?
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Post Post #3420 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:42 pm

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Egg shush and let me get my answers.
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Post Post #3421 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:28 pm

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Neil is town.
BoP is town.
Y&B is probably town.

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Post Post #3422 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:34 pm

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In post 3397, xofelf wrote:Also, Molla, you keep saying your role cancels mine out so I MUST be scum. But I'm actually not scum, so care to tell me why you keep insisting on that? What exactly cancels out my claim?

Oh sure let me just claim for you

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Post Post #3423 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:37 pm

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Just because apparently faking cop reports is fucking okay now

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Post Post #3424 (ISO) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:37 pm

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#definitelyrealtotallynotfake

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