Mini 1582: Formerfish's First Foray (Game Over)

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vote: I love fairies

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Am not scum.

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tl;dr

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tl;dr

So. Are you scum or just a liability?

I'm awesome.

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supp erryone

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Do you always justify your vote in case you're voting a townie, or only when you're scum?

How is it obvious I'm keeping up?

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Mafia is hard
Pages and pages of talk
Most of it useless

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Am not scum.

tl;dr

supp erryone

omg super obvious that he's keeping up, must be scum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mafia is hard
Pages and pages of talk
Most of it useless

Nope.

I'm down to lynch anybody. Also, I am a PR.

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It means I'll jump onto a scum wagon.

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I thought I was about to be wagoned.

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So of those that jumped on me after the claim, who is most likely to be scum: boon or shiny? I know shiny didn't officially jump on, but it's there.

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vote: Oka

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You're probably scum.

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o she mad

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vote: Shiny

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No one gives a crap about mass production of content. No need to justify everything with "I am better with a lynch, or when stuff happens."

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Scum can be active
walls walls walls walls walls walls walls
I am not scum, town.

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You're all scum.

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vote: Oka

LOL #YOLO

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Vig don't think about shooting me tonight.

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BTW some if/then for you guys, considering scum will probably NK me...

IF Oka flips town > Shiny is conf scum.
IF Oka flips scum > Shiny probscum.

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vote: fat tony

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I'm surprised no one has voted me.

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As long as you all know I'm town and let me hammer.

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Why isn't it?

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Just call me when it's HAMMER TIME fellas

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Fat Tony and Bjc are my scum reads. If I

was

scum, I would have tried to make a wagon on one of my scum brethren to try and get a lynch on them, and then it would seemingly clear my name. I even have done that in one of my most recent games.

Were* because you're talking about a hypothetical situation.

Also, that is a really shitty plan for scum. And cool anecdotal evidence, bro.

Someone put him to L-1 so I can hammer.

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Dude I didn't even know I signed up for this game so I figured I would make myself the lowest-hanging fruit of all time, and you guys outed yourselves. Sorry you can't seem to play well as scum.

I'm a hammer tool for the town, if you don't want me hammering then don't put people to L-1. If that bothers you as scum then try to night kill me.

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So has no one noticed that Shinobi obviously died because he targeted scum? Why has this not been a topic of discussion?

Judging by his ISO, I think it's most likely massive.

VOTE: massive

bjc also needs to claim NOW after that #YOLO hammer. I do not abide soft claims.

Okay. I'm a VT.

I was honestly hoping to get NK'd last night but I guess they didn't believe my hint, haha.

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Or soft claim, or fake claim, whatever you want to call it.

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o plz

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Okay. I'm a VT.

I was honestly hoping to get NK'd last night but I guess they didn't believe my hint, haha.

Would you say your panic about being the focus of a wagon was genuine? In context, your soft-claim looks like a knee-jerk reaction to coming under the smallest amount of pressure.

No because I'm not an idiot.

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I'm just saying though that I'm auto-hammering when someone gets to L-1 and I'm around. Realize that by putting someone to L-1 you're defacto hammering..

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Under the assumption that both Boon and massive can coexist as scum buddies... Yes.

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Situation - wait, first; UNVOTE:

Situation - bjc is behaving actively anti-town, will never get NK'd unless there's a vig, and even then seems just as likely to flip town as scum because his play is always this horrible from what I read about him.

O RLY?

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Pretty much everyone agrees I'm dangerous, but it seems a majority of players find me to be town.

There's nothing wrong with my play. If you don't want me to hammer

then don't put them to L-1

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IF I make it to LyLo or MyLo I will retract my hammer status as to not lose the game for you guys, lol. I'm also open to sharing my thoughts!

I don't know how I feel about elk trying to throw crap my way. Could he be scum catching on to the fact that most of the players are town reading me (even if they don't want to), therefore feeling like it's better to cast doubt on my slot (so that they don't have to "waste" a night kill on me)?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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Pretty much everyone agrees I'm dangerous, but it seems a majority of players find me to be town.

There's nothing wrong with my play. If you don't want me to hammer

then don't put them to L-1

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IF I make it to LyLo or MyLo I will retract my hammer status as to not lose the game for you guys, lol. I'm also open to sharing my thoughts!

I don't know how I feel about elk trying to throw crap my way. Could he be scum catching on to the fact that most of the players are town reading me (even if they don't want to), therefore feeling like it's better to cast doubt on my slot (so that they don't have to "waste" a night kill on me)?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Under what conditions would you NOT hammer someone at L-1? Would you hammer a player you were townreading if they were at L-1?

Depends on how strong the town read is.

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And if I'm reading them as town to the point I wouldn't hammer, they wouldn't be at L-1 in the first place.

So the answer to your question is probably a yes.

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Are you sure?

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bjc = not scummy

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It sure as hell ain't bee jay see!

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Swiggity swooty comin' for that booty

Does anyone believe I'm scum?

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Sure would. Who do I need to vote?

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unvote;

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vote: massive

HAMMER AWAY MOTHAFUCKA

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Wow lol Boon if you're a townie then you should WANT the SK to die. Stop being such a shit.

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Also that was a horrible fake claim.

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unvote

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vote: massive

Boon is scum

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You have a whole two days to come up with a good fake claim I suppose.

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I was going to unvote so I could hammer.

You tricked me.

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/echo

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I'm still town if that helps

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What's so confusing? He was obvtown.

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Get that proof out son

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Let us know some more please

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I'm starting to think Oct is scum. discuss

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Lynch the claimed JOAT, that's a super shitty fake claim and he's obviously scum from my POV based on his posts/wording/tone.

vote: Octopus

for being scum. Tattletale already pointed it out, but when you get a guilty...

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I think you might be scum with Octopus but that's not worth discussing right now.

Octopus claimed scum with that super shitty fake claim/guilty. We're in LyLo what a 'perfect' way to try and push for the win with an apathetic town.

Except..

-it is very rarely town for people to claim under no stress whatsoever, and certainly

not

as a JOAT/valuable PR without reason... But..
-IT IS EVEN RARER (read: nonexistent) for town to withhold a guilty in our current situation, then come out and say "well fuck it I got a guilty on someone that has been scummy all game."

You all realize that if that were true he would've opened the day pushing him hard, right? Sure he wouldn't claim it as he has "other" abilities as a JOAT but he would try to push us his way, and if it didn't work, then he'd claim it.

It could be Octo-Drew, I'd have to actually read the game to confirm it.

Boon don't be a fool, you may actually be town. Please if you *are* town do not listen to those shitty theories.

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I think you might be scum with Octopus but that's not worth discussing right now.

Directed at Drew.

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Boonskiies lack of effort defending himself is pretty sad. In either case, we need to lynch either the claimed JOAT or the claimed guilty, no point in lynching anyone else.

I'm inclined to lynch Tattle more, I think. Tattle and Octo, tell us why we should lynch the other instead of you.

hmmm....

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Octo should be an auto-lynch. Seriously.

then we shuffle through Elk/Drew's reactions to it, but I'm going to go ahead and say Boon is most likely town. Meaning we can look at the ongoing and previous pushes that went his way.

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Me too but my goodness why the fuck would you withhold a ficking guilty? That was a first for me.

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Me too but my goodness why the fuck would you withhold a ficking guilty? That was a first for me.

Withhold?

Why the hell would anyone wait when they got a guilty? Shitty play on his part, I literally dropped my jaw when he flipped town.

Drew is probably scum though. I just don't think boon would still be here of he was scum.

Edit: see above for why you are town. Is it really bjc/drew/boon up in here? Easy victory. If boon is scum...... Well played.

It does not matter if he is worried of being killed, 1 for 1 is still pretty good. I don't even want to hear why he withheld the info post game.

Drew's scum, looking through the thread is pretty pointless for me because it will be biased on my end. Boon has been the suspect of everyone all game long and somehow he avoided getting lynched each time.. I'll take my chances. Though I'm not voting right now for obvious reasons

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@Grib:

Do you have to use both votes, or can you just have one cast at any one time?

First,

@ ILF:

Happy birthday, do you have any thoughts about anyone in the game that is not related to their interaction with you?

I already explained that I was a little lost.

@ILF:

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I didn't say I thought Kitty to be mafia necessarily, just that I find her slightly more likely to be mafia than anyone else in the thread.

Why?

Asking "why" is why people had so much suspicion on me in the first place. I keep referring back to the post where I actually voted. That was my reasoning for thinking Kitty to be slightly more scummy than other people (and slightly more scummy = more likely to be mafia, in my eyes). However, I was incorrect with my analysis of her possible motivations and (unless she's lying) I'm in full agreeance that her explained reasoning is indeed townish.

Honestly, I'll have to reread the entire thread and make a better analysis, but as of right now, I don't have the time. Expect a post from me outlining my thoughts about the game tomorrow.

But as of now:

VOTE: bjc

Remember kiddos, I don't vote unless I feel strongly about something. I don't like that he's obviously keeping up with the thread, but refusing to participate. That screams either scum or liability to me (just like it did for someone previous to me). Either way, I like that lynch better than anything anyone has put forth so far.

Do you always justify your vote in case you're voting a townie, or only when you're scum?

How is it obvious I'm keeping up?

super early bussing is legit

Just kidding, again I think we have the game won.

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Gee, so crowdy tonight. I can barely get a word in there's so much going on. /sarcasm.

Sticking with my original read as Boon hasn't come through with any more info.

VOTE: Boon

Octopus / bjc - what do you think of the NK? Can we glean any info out of it do you think? I had a town read on Grib.

What's so confusing? He was obvtown.

Expand. Keen to hear your analysis as I genuinely feel otherwise.

the two quotes don't match. You had a town read on him but you feel otherwise at my statement...?

We can't do much til you post Boon. I still believe you're mafia.

posts like these are ridiculously bad. In your iso there is plenty of over-justified thoughts and suggestions, can't believe I missed them. Like you may have even said at one point, directly or not, that lynching boon was good because he's either scum or useless town. When will scum stop using such trash arguments?

You were ready to bus your partner until I was able to provide an alternate path yet you still felt the need to cast suspicion on both me, the person you were sheepomg, and boon.

Still have to iso (skim) ilf and tattle, but I think I'm ready when you are Boon.

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BOON I FUCKING SWEAR IF YOU LOSE THIS GAME FOR US IM GOING TO BREAK MY TABLET. USE LOGIC FOT FUCKS SAKE

Ask yourself some tough questions. Who has been inconsistent here, me or drew? He's been everywhere with you. He's done things like prepare for when you flip town with shitty reasoning and all. Why is drew going after you?BECAUSE YOURE AN EASIER TARGET THAN !E.

Why does he say (so often) that you are really scummy? Why doesn't he just vote you? All game long he's tunneled you because we found out you're an easy target.

Think this crap through please. If you're scum the ball is in your court.

vote: drew

ball is in your court.

Its out of my hands.

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If ita bjc i'll crash my car

Lold

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unvote

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Want to check a few things before confirming this.

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Yeah whatever, everything I read will be biased. It is drew for sure.

In the event it's actually boon... Well I have access to a lot of alcohol with my Spanish family. If boon is scum... Drink away!

vote: drew

back in your court. End the game

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Please retract your vote Drew....

Why? I believe your mafia andI'm sticking tomy guns

Too late, should've done that the last few days.

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I love lylo as town, it becomes so easy.

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Would've been nice to have gotten interested though before day four lol.

I didn't even know how many were still alive until I posted 20 minutes ago.

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It's obvious why it happened.

You were a big target all along, I was lurking sort of. I will say though a lot of players assumed I was town, perhaps I should've been killed. Of course he wanted to push me in case he couldn't get you considering my push on octopus post-claim and the fact he flipped joat lol.

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Massive was SK right?

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I'm really surprised I didn't get lynched a few days ago. Massive slipping saved my life so much....

I was pushing for it

A bit disappointed now I really thought bjc would lead the charge on Boon.

You played really well in the last two phases bjc. Well done. What tipped you off that it was me?

Reviewing how you handled the joat claim, the subsequent days, and plebtynof posts from earlier in the game that I saw later on.

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It also helped that boon failed to get lynched all game long.

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It's dumb though that you didn't auto claim guitlynor try pushing him. Oh well stillnwon.

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It's dumb though that you didn't auto claim guitlynor try pushing him. Oh well stillnwon.

Look back at Octopus' posts from that day. He never cane out and said I have a guilty on TT, but he sure did mention lynching her a lot and that she was scum. I think that if Boon had given him a chance to speak Octo would have quoted all the times he mentioned it.

well I probably didn't read it lol.

bjc + ika bromance. Yes, I can see it now.

I've played with him before haha, we make a good team.

I don't hammer like that all the time though, I forgot I signed up for this game and decoded to be a little crazy.