Mafia v. Wolves Redux: Finally Over!

[DrippingGoofball]

I was already following your directives when I switched my vote to Kison. I hope you are pleased.

[Kison]

Except that your switching to me was based on my pointing out the same thing MoS just did, which you happen to claim you're also in agreement with. As a result, your motive contradicts its action.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Exactly. Your vote on Kison isn't because of any suspicion that he's scum. You're just trying to stir up the waters and cause confusion.

[Raffles]

If DGB was really interested in finding scum, she would suggest that people look to MORE than just BM, PBuG, and Raffles, so that we can get information on everyone.

Aren't you guilty of this yourself?

[Battle Mage]

Nice try at making me look bad, DGB, but I already said it.

in general you dont need any help to do this...

[Mastermind of Sin]

Let me refer you back to this post once again.

DGB's strategy stinks. If DGB was really interested in finding scum, she would suggest that people look to MORE than just BM, PBuG, and Raffles, so that we can get information on everyone. Her vote on Kison is just an opportunistic jump to the first person to oppose her ridiculous plan. There is no reason to spread votes around unless there is equally good logic for all the candidates being wagoned, and the logic against Raffles is far better than the weak suspicions on the other two. As it is, if I were to be convinced that Raffles was not the play today, I would probably switch my vote to DGB as a competing wagon.

The chances that I will find time to go through and look at other players and analyze them by deadline are slim, considering this is finals week for me.

In addition, DGB is the one who decided that there needed to be competing wagons for Raffles, not me. Not to mention that I

have

made note of the scumminess of other players besides Raffles in thread, so I'm hardly guilty of anything, Raffles.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Nice try at making me look bad, DGB, but I already said it.

in general you dont need any help to do this...

Only to you and your army of clowns.

[Battle Mage]

your paranoia is becoming increasingly evident...

Nice try at making me look bad, DGB, but I already said it.

in general you dont need any help to do this...

Only to you and your army of clowns.

[Raffles]

Yea, and I sense distubance in the force. *sarcasm*

[Phoebus]

Vote count:

1 bird1111 (theopor_COD)
2 Battle Mage (Akbar, IH)
1 DrippingGoofball (Shanba)
1 Kison (Dripping Goofball)
1 Mastermind of Sin (Raffles)
1 PBuG (Battle Mage)

7 Raffles (Fuldu, Kison, Mastermind of Sin, mneme, Mr. Flay, PBuG, spectrumvoid)

Not voting: 5

10 to lynch

Deadline 1: 1700 GMT Friday May 18

[DrippingGoofball]

Except that your switching to me was based on my pointing out the same thing MoS just did, which you happen to claim you're also in agreement with. As a result, your motive contradicts its action.

Your vote on Kison isn't because of any suspicion that he's scum.

Incorrect. MoS's poorly thought out support of Kison's fallacy is noted.

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My vote on Kison is based on this post:

Is this some kind of slick attempt of yours, DGB, to break the Raffles wagon? I don't see much of a reason to go for the other two of your candidates. In fact, you are second on my list, just based on earlier developments, but even you are a weak case.

I have already explained that I am not hugely keen on the Raffles wagon. In light of his continued good behavior today, I do believe that he might be a townie worth keeping. Since I hold this opinion, it is not surprising that I find value in competing wagons. Whether Raffles turns up scum or town later, it will make this day a more informative one.

Kison's post raised the possibility that he might be a scum frustrated with my efforts. He would only be frustrated if one of PBuG and BM were scum. I know this is ironic, but Kison's post could be interpreted as a slick attempt to break a PBuG or BM wagon before it really got started, and re-ignite the Raffles wagon at the same time. Add to that a declaration that I am now "second" on his "list,"the paucity of logic, and prominent lack of insight leads me to believe that he might not be a townie.

[Shanba]

hrm... I've been more satisfied with DGB's recent posts, and I get the feeling she's getting into the game. I'm willing to move back to my original suspect now.

unvote Vote Albert B. Rampage

[Battle Mage]

sorry i must have lost this, but, reasons?

hrm... I've been more satisfied with DGB's recent posts, and I get the feeling she's getting into the game. I'm willing to move back to my original suspect now.

unvote Vote Albert B. Rampage

[Kison]

Add to that a declaration that I am now "second" on his "list,"the paucity of logic, and prominent lack of insight leads me to believe that he might not be a townie.

Sorry, but when you try to start a wagon on MoS with faulty reasoning, and then attempt to break a wagon on the prominent target with no further insight on anyone else, you kind of climb your way to the top of my list.

[DrippingGoofball]

Kison,

Please tell us what you think of Shanba's most recent contributions.

Thank you.

[theopor_COD]

Shanba's recent contributions suck big style being as Albert B Rampage was replaced by Mneme.

Still waiting for n9v oh and the inactive crowd.

[Raffles]

What does everyone think of mneme's recent contribution.

[theopor_COD]

They pretty much suck aswell so do the previous incumbents Scarecrow and Albert B Rampage. No content at all so far this game. Scarecrow jumped on to the OTU wagon pretty much like Mneme has here.

[DrippingGoofball]

I was unclear.

When I wrote "tell us what you think of Shanba's most recent contributions" - I wished for a little bit more insight that "it sucked" or "no contribution." In particular, please pay special attention to what their behaviors and posts might imply regarding their

alignment.

[Shanba]

mneme's entrance obviously didn't have a lot of impact on me.

[DrippingGoofball]

Shanba, please evaluate your own contribution. I think the exercize will be educational for yourself, and the rest of us.

[Shanba]

I know I havent contributed spectacularly. I don't think self-analysis is useful.

[DrippingGoofball]

Your self-analysis would me most useful, since you have denied the rest of us the means of analyzing you.

Why are you contributing so little? Clearly, you are around, and you are paying attention. Pray tell what goes on between your ears, and what prevents it from being transmitted to your keyboard. I bet your brain is shockful of clever insights. Share them with us!

[Shanba]

Hrmm... If you really want me to, I can analyse my posts. I don't think it's a particularly helpful exercise though.

Ok. My first post. I've picked up a lot of flak for this one. All I will say is I wanted to get down my thoughts about certain players. It was more a statement of my positions on reading the thread. In fact, if you look through the games I've replaced into I have made a similar in post in most of them.

I think that I over-reacted to your criticism of my post, as I no longer find it scummy. After that I gave a couple of posts of substance, but I've been mostly on the back foot this game which is a new experience for me. I believe I have contributed, but since May my contributions have been lacking and I will try and remedy that. Possibly now I've got a few things out of the way in consulmaker I can put some effort into some long analysis here.

[Battle Mage]

I don't think it's a particularly helpful exercise though.

I have to agree with this. i'd find it infinitely better if you commented on OTHER players, and, rather than apologising for lack of contributions, make an effort to right the situation.