Tales of You (Endgame)

[AngryPidgeon]

you are most likely town

Because?

And no its not MyLo Tammy.....

[Titan]

never mind everything I was about to write about mylo, I'm dumb, and probably someone would have accused me of messing up again to make it look like i'm stupid and not scum

[CarbonFiber]

you are most likely town

Because?

And no its not MyLo Tammy.....

The carefree way he is posting and interacting with people since he returned. It is hard for NotScience to emulate that in his scumgame. I still want to see his mountain of analysis before nailing down a read there though.

[The Fox and the Hound]

Try to use VCA in a cabd based game as a bullshit reason to push me while avoiding saying why things I've said come from scum ns.

Does the game change how useful VCA is or isn't? o.o

At this point, as we've recently established, we're getting to the point where the burden is on you to look actively town if you are. In my view, at least, that hasn't happened thus far.

[Titan]

Magenta - Why have you been focusing on ffery since coming in?

[Red Gyarados]

It's only on a few people, granted

I was going down the playerlist and I hit mastin right as I went MIA

[PeregrineV]

Prod dodge since home comps are down. More tomorrow.

[AngryPidgeon]

More prod dodges tomorrow?

[Red Gyarados]

I did these because I wanted to see if I could follow a thought process that someone was having. They're mostly IIoA atm but there's patterns in there I'm looking for (such as tammy's waffling which is really evident up to where I had stopped doing it)

Trajectory of reads: Titan

1 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8) Town as of 101 (no reason), scumlean in 543 (no reason), Town as of 801 (needed more nacho), townlean as of 955 , starting to get paranoid as of 1579, Decent townread as of 1712 (no reason), 1715 (a post felt town), scum as of 3295 (bussing orci)

2 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir and DV) Cephrir buddying as of 253 (no alignment given), town as of 664 (genuine sounding posts, no fake paranoia), town as of 678 (doesn’t see scum ceph), Decent townread as of 1712 (no reason)

3 Yggdra Union (giffy and pieguyn) 3 Yukari Yakumo Town as of 1323 (town feeling reachout)

4 orcinus_theoriginal Town as of 801 (no reason), town as of 3021 (feels different than vesperia)

6 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman and natirasha) Unsure as of (328), townlean as of 801 (some good early posts), scum as of 2461 (avoiding the CC)

7 MastinSSK (Mastin2, MafiaSSK) Not town as of 143 (OMGUS, misrepping thread), more reasons in 163 (Overexplanation, misrepping the therad, Saying he won’t trust nacho, fake reads), in 221 (Strong nachobork townread), Scum in 288 (not trying to figure her out), bunch of waffle in 716 (tammy thinks scum, but others all call town)

8 Breakfast With Stalin (Hydra of ffery and beli) Town as of 680 (her prominence in the hydra, taking the lead), maybe town as of 801 (needed to see more), Decent townread as of 1712 (no reason), Decent townread as of 1712 (no reason)

9 AngryPidgeon 9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling) Scumread as of 801 (no reason), reason in 1414 (Wooden posting), scum as of 2446 (no reason)

10 Carbon Fiber (FourTrouble and F16) Scum as of 253 (terrible post), town as of 297 (but liable to change), still town as of 523 (pseudo-reachout), scumlean in 543 ( no reason), townlean in 801 (needed to see more), Decent townread as of 1712 (no reason), town as of 2377 (genuine post to ffery)

11 Lord Business scum as of 96 (horrid posts), town as of 542 (reads town)

12 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon and Desperado) Scum as of 106 (no reason), scum as of 684 (lurkaderping), scum as of 801 (no reason), reason in 878 (Both are lurking, but it’s a waffley read), scum as of 1101 (paranoia of them avoiding this game)

13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience) Town as of 53 (no reason), town as of 253 (ns looks townish), town as of 543 (no reason), town as of 801 (no reason), town as of 1712 (but forgot I was here)

14 Cupcake Panda Scumside as of 126 (caps), scumlean in 543 (no reason), not town as of 687 (Not doing anything), townlean as of 801 (no reason), Decent townread as of 1712 (no reason)

15 PeregrineV Not town as of 685 (shitposting/lurking)

16 Clyton Null as of 297 (waiting for post), town as of 337 (reads list), town as of 543 (no reason),Scum as of 1299 (then retracted. Townposting.) Town as of 1712

17 Mac Slight town as of 543 (no reason), strong town as of 1712 (would be surprised if flipped scum)

Evaluation- Lots of waffling, lots of reads based off meta.

I like the stance regarding nachobork.

This waffling is basically what tammy town does. There’s so much paranoia, so much transparency (even with some reads not getting reasons, those that do are so crystal clear it’s fantastic). The fact she’s going through the lengths for this game is a towntell as well.


The other few coming up after dinner

[AngryPidgeon]

I hope the other few actually have stances built into them other than just being a wall of IIoA and a mostly unrelated conclusion.

[Tammy]

You cant have gotten your neighborhood lastnight, assuming its an effect of a role

pedit:stalin

For instance what is this post about?

[Titan]

You cant have gotten your neighborhood lastnight, assuming its an effect of a role

pedit:stalin

For instance what is this post about?

*sigh*

[AngryPidgeon]

Id like to know why she cares about my action tbh.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm really bugged that he was pushing mastinlynch while not being on it

Current catchup is solely based on reading so I can get to work on time, but I want to address how completely fucking stupid suspicion is based on me being scum because I pushed the hell out of mastin while "not being on it". Is there a reason scum-Nacho would

not

vote mastin? So... I couldn't be linked to his town flip after he died because I would be able to say "oh I didn't mislynch him!" after he flipped? Oh wait, that makes absolutely no sense at all!

[Nachomamma8]

I thought that him saying that was a partial indication that he was scum and his team had something.

If I had surprise LyLo goodies as scum, I wouldn't hint at my surprise LyLo goodies until the game was already won.
And when the game was already won, I'd be blatantly but hilariously obvious about it.
See: Imperishable Night

[AngryPidgeon]

Actually I figured out something about Mara. Still prob scum there.

They are some sort of modified (global?/multiple?) roleblocker. At least thats what shes been softing at I think.

[Nachomamma8]

I wouldn't say not voting Mastin was significant.

<3
still wrong, but getting closer

[Nachomamma8]

or you would say voting mastin was significant?

[AngryPidgeon]

I definitely used my 1-shot last night (Cabd confirmed) and I believe I should have gotten a result back but didnt so I probably was? blocked?

Them asking for a flavor claim is probably because they block all people of a certain flavor?

[Nachomamma8]

Because he's trying to distance from his buddy so that they can secure 2 mislynches w/o both of them getting lynched.

What the fuck is this reasoning?
Because people are making shitty associatives with me, I'm scum?

[AngryPidgeon]

PV didnt post his vig target what.

PV/magenta team? Habeeb it?

[Red Gyarados]

Trajectory of reads: Orcinus

1 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8) Scum as of 511 (no reason), town as of 950 (no reason), town in 1000

2 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir and DV) Scum as of 930 (flashbacks to ceph-scum games), Ceph is scum in 1000

3 Yggdra Union (giffy and pieguyn) 3 Yukari Yakumo

5 Titan (Tammy + Sir Arthur Dane) town as of (720), Town as of 1000 (no reason)

6 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman and natirasha)

7 MastinSSK (Mastin2, MafiaSSK)

8 Breakfast With Stalin (Hydra of ffery and beli) Town as of 511 (no reason), town as of 706 (how her reads interact with her partners), Tries to avoid explaining in 720, Confirmed town in 10000

9 AngryPidgeon 9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling) Scum as of 714 (no reason)

10 Carbon Fiber (FourTrouble and F16)

11 Lord Business

12 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon and Desperado) Scum as of 1580 (Bro being diplomatic?)

13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience)

14 Cupcake Panda

15 PeregrineV

16 Clyton Scum as of 739 (no reason)

17 Mac Scum as of 747 (shitsack useless mac=scum)

I don’t like Orc at all. Looking at the purpose for his skill choice- lurker lynch or no lynch. Doesn’t it make more sense to put someone like Cupcake, Peregrine, up against them? Or hell, doesn’t it make more sense to put a fucking scumread in there?

I don’t like how he hasn’t given reads on half the playerlist. I don’t like how the reads he has given, he’s given like no explanation
I don’t like how he’s trying to put off explaining his ffery read. It sounds like he’s doing it explicitly to not get caught in bullshit.

[Red Gyarados]

Trajectory of reads: Giffy/pie

1 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8) Town as of 3120 (no reason), Town as of 3915 (Not worrying about til D4)

2 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir and DV) Town as of 1563 (no reason), Null as of 3120 (no reason), Town as of 3915 (Reach out post)

4 orcinus_theoriginal Scum as of 3120 (PoE), town as of 3915 (Role)

5 Titan (Tammy + Sir Arthur Dane) Town as of 1563 (no reason), Town as of 3120 (no reason), Town as of 3915 (tammytown with MOE)

6 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman and natirasha) ), Town as of 1563 (Doublecheck?), scum as of 2654 for miller reaction, Scum as of 3120 (PoE, interactions with 7)

7 MastinSSK (Mastin2, MafiaSSK) scum as of 1446 (sheeping), scum as of 1563 (no reason), scum as of 2662 (downplay towniness, strongarm lynch), Scum as of 3120 (PoE, interactions with 6)

8 Breakfast With Stalin (Hydra of ffery and beli) Town as of 1563 (no reason), Null as of 3120 (no reason), Town as of 3915 (no reasoning)

9 AngryPidgeon 9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling) Town as of 1234 (no reason), Town as of 1563 (Doublecheck?), Scum as of 3120 (PoE)

10 Carbon Fiber (FourTrouble and F16) Town as of 1563 (no reason), Town as of 3120 (no reason), Town as of 3915 (miller claim)

11 Lord Business Town as of 903 (no reason)

12 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon and Desperado) Town as of 1563 (no reason), Town as of 3120 (no reason), town as of 3915 (BRO is town)

13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience) Scum as of 901 (Response to CF, Brian’s ost), Town as of 1563 (because of me (who was hardly here), Town as of 3120 (no reason), Town as of 3915 (no reason)

14 Cupcake Panda Town as of 1563 (sheeping), Null as of 3120 (no reason), Null as of 3915 (lurking)

15 PeregrineV Town as of 3120 (no reason), null as of 3915 (didn’t sort)

16 Clyton Town as of 1563 (no reason), Scum as of 3120 (PoE)

17 Mac Town as of 1563 (no reason), Town as of 3120 (if RBD is scum)

Trajectory thoughts-

It’s hard as fuck to follow what GIF’s thinking which bugs the shit out of me. That being said, I feel like that’s pie town when I see his thought process.

I don’t like how there’s a metric fuckton of non-reason’d reads and avoiding giving a reason for thinking someone is whatever when GIF posts.

There’s a lot of changing reads from town to scum, not so much the other way around. Dunno, feels weird.

[Red Gyarados]

Trajectory of Reads: TFATH

1 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8) townread as of 797 (based on bork), paranoid as of 940, scum in 1532, affirmed in 1569 (nacho is talking around ceph), townlean in 2693 (I don’t get this trajectory) feels good about them being town (2960), listed in strongest townreads in 2984

3 Yggdra Union (giffy and pieguyn) 3 Yukari Yakumo Scum as of 1164 (no reason), town in 2690, pretty fucking town in 3723, highest town tier in 3890

4 orcinus_theoriginal Not town as of 784 (given time though), no opinion in 797, scum as of 1164 (no reason), disagrees with AP’s townread in 1575

5 Titan (Tammy + Sir Arthur Dane) Town as of 251, confirmed in 383, Tammy is obvtown in 1410, town in 2693, highest town tier in 3890

6 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman and natirasha) scum as of 1164 (non-genuine reads, gladiator threat, nati showing emotion (scum meta)), potshot in 1232 (makes sense regarding read) town as of 1344 (meta), disagrees with AP’s townread in 1575, not scum w/ mastin 2676, claimed scum in 2693

7 MastinSSK (Mastin2, MafiaSSK) Scum as of 171 (Hard to follow), confirmed in 215 for (scum hydra thought process), scum as of 383 (OMGUS), transparent, easy to follow waffling in 636, paranoia accusation in 1186, confirmed scum in 1315 (no trajectory regarding AP, not trying to convince others her scumread is right), not scum w/ rancid 2676

8 Breakfast With Stalin (Hydra of ffery and beli) Town as of 415, confirmed in 474, again in 797, townread in 1769 based on beli wall, town in 2693, highest town tier in 3890

9 AngryPidgeon 9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling) Not liking as of 794 (no reason), scum as of 804 for some heavy cogdis, dissolving as of 1103, scum in 1373 but no real trajectory, scum in 3563 for claiming a result

10 Carbon Fiber (FourTrouble and F16) Town as of 383, opening post. Confirmed in 474, confirmed in 487, reaffirmed in 1410. Just under tammy tier. town in 2693, highest town tier in 3890

11 Lord Business Town as of 103, Light town as of 251, again in 797, probtown in 2693

12 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon and Desperado) similar reads to them in 1155, highest town tier in 3890

13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience) Town as of 34 (town meta), probtown
14 Cupcake Panda Closest thing to a scumread as of 252, didn’t vote. Not getting townier by 371.

15 PeregrineV no townfeels yet, but doesn’t mean scum (1603), probtown in 2693, (?),

16 Clyton Town as of 797 (spoke against CF’s read), confirm town in 2682, confirmed in 2693, highest town tier in 3890

17 Mac Light townread as of 251, again light townread in 797 (neeeds research), probtown in 2693 (still don’t know what research was)

Observations-

Early game trajectory is really clear. There’s a couple of strong townreads he has consistent, and there’s also waffling and OMGUS on several reads.

I don’t understand the PV trajectory.

I don’t understand trajectory from around post 2000 after but pre-then is really clear.

Cupcake trajectory makes sense.

Potshot in RBD made sense especially regarding their stance on them prior.

Clyton trajectory makes sense.

Most of my strong townread was on their early posting, when looked at, standed on its own. Like I could actually see what they were thinking

it was beautiful

[Nachomamma8]

hey notscience, cut this weird shit out and call me town