Graveyard Shift Mafia - ROLL CREDITS

[FourteenPointFive]

^Das scum. Both of them.

[FourteenPointFive]

Damn page topper.

Regards #1522

Anyway. What about Day 1 other than the LD Hail Mary was "productive"? Don't pretend that anyone but LD had to do with the Zor scumflip. What actually happened Day 1? BnB flooded the thread with a million posts. Serene got into a HUGE argument several times, culminating with a fake guilty on BnB that they later retracted. In our shift, posting has been null in comparison. It's pretty clear to me the shifts wouldn't change if at all. It's a red herring. Is it coincidence that the player BRO is pushing as scum the most is the only guy to switch shifts? Holy hell you couldn't telegraph a mislynch much better than that. Yea, we're pretty sure Venmar was switched to be mislynched. The player that pointed this out I believe is scum. Hence Reck going "look let's sheep BRO and mislynch him!"

Sven is so fucking town because he is asking the right questions and scumhunting. He's our strongest town read at this point.

What does 'discussion with the accused' have to do with anything? So, I need to talk to a player to believe they are town? I guess you can resend any townread you have on players with the other shift then, cause you haven't talking to any of them. Zor's fakeclaim was believable to me at the time, but that's not why I am reading you as scum. For those playing at home, I'm scumreading Peregrine for his dismissal of the claim. I especially love this gem right here though...so much that it needs to be quoted.

Perhaps a detailed breakdown of your Zoraster townread would help us ignore any and all of your reads since he's already flipped scum.

lol that scumclaim. "In this post, I attack Bone's credibility."

Vote: PeregrineV

[PeregrineV]

Damn page topper.

Regards #1522

Anyway. What about Day 1 other than the LD Hail Mary was "productive"? Don't pretend that anyone but LD had to do with the Zor scumflip. What actually happened Day 1? BnB flooded the thread with a million posts. Serene got into a HUGE argument several times, culminating with a fake guilty on BnB that they later retracted. In our shift, posting has been null in comparison. It's pretty clear to me the shifts wouldn't change if at all. It's a red herring. Is it coincidence that the player BRO is pushing as scum the most is the only guy to switch shifts? Holy hell you couldn't telegraph a mislynch much better than that. Yea, we're pretty sure Venmar was switched to be mislynched. The player that pointed this out I believe is scum. Hence Reck going "look let's sheep BRO and mislynch him!"

Sven is so fucking town because he is asking the right questions and scumhunting. He's our strongest town read at this point.

What does 'discussion with the accused' have to do with anything? So, I need to talk to a player to believe they are town? I guess you can resend any townread you have on players with the other shift then, cause you haven't talking to any of them. Zor's fakeclaim was believable to me at the time, but that's not why I am reading you as scum. For those playing at home, I'm scumreading Peregrine for his dismissal of the claim. I especially love this gem right here though...so much that it needs to be quoted.

Perhaps a detailed breakdown of your Zoraster townread would help us ignore any and all of your reads since he's already flipped scum.

lol that scumclaim. "In this post, I attack Bone's credibility."

Vote: PeregrineV

Have you responded to 1522 to the best of your ability?

If so, please give me a detailed detailed breakdown of all your reads so we can ignore them.

It's not an attack, it's a fact. (holy shit, my newest sig quote)

[FourteenPointFive]

That's a scumclaim right there.

[PeregrineV]

That's a scumclaim right there.

Interesting.

Tell us more.

[PeregrineV]

On the lovers thing, they could be both town, but that would really suck since we are effectively losing 3 town for one nightkill. This makes me lean town-scum on the lovers, and I don't think Infinite is scum.

What do you mean losing 3 town?

fourteenpointfive what are you expecting to gt out of continuing to discuss the zoraster situation in this way?

Bro leaves after 2 or 3 days or something. If lovers are town/town, scum effectively get rid of three town by waiting+killing one player. Bro+lovers=3.

[Venmar]

i thought shifts were randomized with each episode, i just learned mafia can determine shifts

i don't know?

[PeregrineV]

i thought shifts were randomized with each episode, i just learned mafia can determine shifts

i don't know?

You know yourself better than we do.

If your town and scum moved you, it could only be for some reason. Even no reason is a reason.

So, why would scum want you to die?

[PeregrineV]

Null:

Reck

Jordan

Iamausername
Zdenek
Goat

Null-Scum:

14.5
Dry-Fit

BS

Venmar
hiplop

I'm insulted that you would not only put Jordan ahead of me, but you would put me in the same category as Hiplop.

You actually have 40-something posts and I entirely forgot you were in the game. This is not a good thing.

[PeregrineV]

* I have now lost all interest in anything revolving the cop claim and the flipped cop. The arguments are just getting too retarded. I just want to lynch Zora and be done with it, but I'm not ready to end the day yet.

I went through your posts and I can't find where you have actual interest in Logical or Zoaraster, either before or after the cop claim. What kind of interest did you lose?

[PeregrineV]

Zoraster - Confscum...
BnB- Almost Certainly Scum
Jordan - Almost Certainly Scum
Reck - Probable Scum


Aronis - Probable Town
ika - Town
Broseidon - Conftown
Logical Duality - The towniest town that ever towned

Not a fan of these reads (well, mainly the townreads)

. And if you think Jordan and BnB are scum, what's your read on Agar?

From this I'm getting that you think Aronis and ika are scummy?

[hiplop]

man venmar is definitely not scum. this play would not come from a scum player.

UNVOTE:

actually feel like an idiot for sheeping just because IC

[FourteenPointFive]

i thought shifts were randomized with each episode, i just learned mafia can determine shifts

i don't know?

You know yourself better than we do.

If your town and scum moved you, it could only be for some reason. Even no reason is a reason.

So, why would scum want you to die?

LOL "WHY WOULD SCUM WANT A MISLYNCH?" IS THIS GUY SERIOUS RIGHT NOW? VOTE THIS WITH FIRE PLEASE.

[PeregrineV]

i thought shifts were randomized with each episode, i just learned mafia can determine shifts

i don't know?

You know yourself better than we do.

If your town and scum moved you, it could only be for some reason. Even no reason is a reason.

So, why would scum want you to die?

LOL "WHY WOULD SCUM WANT A MISLYNCH?" IS THIS GUY SERIOUS RIGHT NOW? VOTE THIS WITH FIRE PLEASE.

Your seriously quoting me asking a townread of yours questions and using it as an argument that I'm scum?

[Venmar]

If your town and scum moved you, it could only be for some reason. Even no reason is a reason.

idk, to separate me from agar and bnb, who are my scumreads i guess?

actually, looking at this shift.. this is the complete opposite shift from my last one, i haven't been a shift with any of you before. i was handpicked into this shift it seems...

[Venmar]

yeah this is basically the old night shift + me

what the fuck scum?

[Dry-fit]

What do you make of the 58 pages pre-Venmar?

You mean what did I think of Venmar before he moved into this shift? I didn't think much of hi. My top two suspects are from day shift so I didn't consider him much of a priority. I like his AGar suspicion.

[FourteenPointFive]

You asked him why scum want him mislynched. HELLO?

VOTE IT WITH FIRE PLEASE

[FourteenPointFive]

On the assumption

I think Goat didn't allow Zor to selfhammer deliberately

and makes him town and that [bold]Dry-fit is being picked on as an easy mislynch[/bold] by the scum in the first shift.

Why you think this?

I believed that it was a a consistant period and posted about the L-1 after noticing (if he was left after the night shift, I believe it might have been an accidental hammer)
There is a possibly he was daytalked into placing the L-1 statement before Zor self-hammered, but I I think that's a very slim chance.

[Svenskt Stål]

Shift Data

Player	Day 1	Day 2
~Jordan'	Day	Night
AGar	Day	Night
Bird and Beast	Day	Night
Brian Skies	Day	Night
ika	Day	Night
infinte jesters	Day	Night
MrZepher	Day	Night
Serene2	Day	Night
Svenskt Stal	Day	Night
Venmar	Day	Day
Zdenek	Day	Night
Aronis	Night	Day
BROseidon	Night	Day
Dry-fit	Night	Day
FourteenPointFive	Night	Day
hiplop	Night	Day
iamausername	Night	Day
Logical Duality	Night	DEAD
PeregrineV	Night	Day
The Goat	Night	Day
xRECKONERx	Night	Day
zoraster	Night	DEAD

Claims, Flips and Actions

Player	Claim	Post	Flip	Claimed actions	Confirmed actions
~Jordan'
AGar
Bird and Beast
Brian Skies
ika	Vanilla Town	http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5794842
infinite jesters	Lover with Sven	http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5794872
MrZepher
Serene2
Svenskt Stal	Lover with infinite jesters	http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5794872
Venmar
Zdenek
Aronis
BROseidon	Innocent child		Innocent child
Dry-fit
FourteenPointFive
hiplop
iamausername
Logical Duality	1 shot Cop	http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p5807968	1 shot Cop		Guilty on Zoraster A2
PeregrineV
The Goat
xRECKONERx
zoraster			Mafia goon

As you can see, venmar was actually the only one that wasnt moved. Its a very round about way of getting venmar to the other shift, because at the same time they wanted as little activity in the game as possible.

Reasons I can see for Venmars switch.

1. He is scum and thinks his chances are better in the other group. The thing that speaks against this is that the switch will create a spotlight on venmar.

2. He is town and is being set up intentionally. But why set up town venmar? I mean dry-fit, BnB, Serene and Agar all have more heat on them as is, so why not pick one of them?

3. He was randomly selected.

The fact that EVERYONE BUT VENMAR moved signals delibiration to me. Scum wanted to achieve 2 goals, they wanted the game as inactive as possible with the double lurker shift, and they wanted venmar in the other other group. My conclussion is that scenario 3 isnt very likely.

[Svenskt Stål]

BROSEIDON,

I dont think we have more than one lynch per episode. So to "hurry" lynches could potentially end your last day sooner than it should. I dont know why there was a A7 and A8 shift as opposed to a B1 and B2 shift. Maybee scum has some sort of mechanic for it.

Episode Rules:

Each Episode is a

maximum

of 8 Shifts long,

and ends upon a successful lynch being reached

. Episodes ending early do not alter when Shifts switch.

[Svenskt Stål]

Everyone,

If you have an ability you need to crumb EVERY result you get. You might think that a "no result" isnt important but it might be the missing piece of the puzzle. In short, if you flip a role with an ability we should be able to reread you and understand your results.

[Svenskt Stål]

VOTE: venmar

[The Critic]

It is now a Night Shift.

~Jordan’
AGar
Bird and Beast
Brian Skies
ika
infinite jesters
MrZepher
Serene2
Svenskt Stal
Zdenek

Episode 2, Shift B.2 (Night), VC 2

Bird and Beast (3) - Serene2, Venmar, MrZepher
Serene2 (3) - ika, infinte jesters, xRECKONERx
Venmar (3) - BROseidon, Aronis, Svenskt Stal
Dry-fit (2) - Bird and Beast, AGar
AGar (1) - Dry-fit
PeregrineV (1) - FourteenPointFive

Not Voting (7): ~Jordan', Brian Skies, Zdenek, iamausername, PeregrineV, The Goat, hiplop

With 20 alive, it is 11 to lynch.

The Shift will switch in (expired on 2014-04-23 23:00:00).
The Episode will end in (expired on 2014-05-01 23:00:00).

Searching for a replacement for ~jordan' and iamausername.

The Goat has been prodded.

[ika]

stal

Shifts will always be the same size, or as close as possible (when there is an odd number of players alive).

that being said, im waiting on others to check in and give imput before i decide on anything atm.