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mustafa15 Goon
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gorckat Mafia Scum
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Occult Goon
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Both are just attacking each other. Peter says that a day one lynch is most likely going to be townie and says Guardian is suspicious for being too defensive in trying to stay alive. Guardian basicaly says the opposite.gorckat wrote: The Guardian/Peter debate got interesting with both saying they were being misrepresented...I need to go back and reread the posts in question to see who's right, being too sensitive or just working stuff up.
My veiws
-They seem to be trying to distance themselves from each other.
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Raffles Mafia Zcum
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Paradoxombie Mafia Scum
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Raffles Mafia Zcum
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Sefer Goon
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He is. I would have posted to indicate that as soon as I sent his PM, but I got the account suspended page when I tried :-\
Paradoxombie replaces Ichigo, effective immediately
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Guardian Mafia Scum
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Guardian Mafia Scum
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Paradoxombie Mafia Scum
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Vel-Rahn Koon Virginia's Trump
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Yay someone who's going to play! Welcome Paradox, I look forward to your analysis of the goings on.The Newbie Queue ALWAYS needs ICs and Mods!
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Peter Venkman Goon
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Guardian wrote:I await Peter's reply to my post.Gorckat wrote:The Guardian/Peter debate got interesting with both saying they were being misrepresented...I need to go back and reread the posts in question to see who's right, being too sensitive or just working stuff up.Occult wrote:Both are just attacking each other. Peter says that a day one lynch is most likely going to be townie and says Guardian is suspicious for being too defensive in trying to stay alive. Guardian basicaly says the opposite.
My veiws
-They seem to be trying to distance themselves from each other.
or...
-They're blowing the whole thing out of proportion.
Raffles has it right. I feel further discussion on this topic is a distraction to the town. I'm sorry it went on this far.Raffles wrote:I would go for the latter. It is a bit off-topic for a distancing to be honest.
This is my position stated several posts ago, and alsoI wrote:It is my oppinion that a town player shouldn't play to stay alive. If you simply spend your time trying to oust scum than you shouldn't look suspicious and thus no-one will vote on you. If you play to stay alive, you will look like scum.partof the reason I feel Guardian is scummy. Previous posts were a poor attempt at clarity.
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@Guardian, can you focus your attention on ousting scum, rather than fighting me on semantics? I promise I'll do the same.
-PeterBack off, man. I'm a scientist.-
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Sefer Goon
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Sixth official vote count:
Guardian (3): Vryklan, Raffles, Peter Venkman
Avinyl (3): John, Vel-Rahn Koon, mustafa15
John (2): Paradoxombie, Avinyl
Occult (1): DLMF
Not voting: Occult, gorckat, Guardian
12 alive, 7 to lynch.
(For clarity, Paradoxombie's vote is where Ichigo left it).
I will be moving this weekend, and I will not have internet access after I move. I have an appointment to get it at the new place on Monday, so I won't be missing long. I added explicit rules about what happens when a player reaches lynch numbers to the rules post just in case it occurs while I'm absent.[url=http://www.greylabyrinth.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?p=419266]Sign up for theHeroes Mafia Mega at Grey Labyrinth[/url]-
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Peter Venkman Goon
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I'm not sure what you could possibly want. I've participated in this game tremendously and voted. Is this a fishing expedition for roles?John wrote:@ Peter> The way you have been playing is what my concern is. To me, you have been on the outside, interjecting your opinion, not lurking, but in my opinion, not saying anything that may shed light on you.
Assuming you and I are both town, how does you staying alive help the town more than me staying alive? Do you understand that all vanilla town players are equal? Do you see how perhaps if all town players play with their number one priority asJohn wrote:Also, i get what yoour saying about how a townie lynch is okay, but it should always be a priority to stay alive, because you being alive ALWAYS helps your sidestaying alivea giant problem will arise?
What about power roles? Should a vanilla town player do everything in his power to stay alive if he suspects the town might have a cop?
My biggest complaint with Guardian is he takes every single qualifier out of my statements when he quotes me.
For example:
I clearly said "at this point" refering to day one. Yet Guardian cannot see the qualifierss, and continues to quote me in terms of absolutes. I understand there are grey areas, and obviously different actions are appropriate at different times. Read Post 266 again and see if you notice Guardian miss any other qualifiers.Guardian wrote:
All emphasis mine. Peter, these are the only posts (or at least the great majority of them) where you addressed your reasoning about how towns should play and how they should think about town deaths...Peter Venkman wrote:You misread. The death of a scum player is significantly more important early game than the death of a town player. At this pointtown shouldn't be scared of death, whereas Scum are.
You directly say that town shouldn't be scared of death, yet you say that my paraphrasing you by saying that
is a misrepresentation of your logic?Guardian wrote:townies should not being afraid of dying
-PeterBack off, man. I'm a scientist.-
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Guardian Mafia Scum
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Peter, I disagree that this has been blown out of proportion or is a distraction. You seem to as well, though, despite saying otherwise, as you did see a need to respond to my post. Thanks for that.Peter Venkman wrote:Raffles has it right. I feel further discussion on this topic is a distraction to the town. I'm sorry it went on this far.
I obviously didn't bold all your qualifiers. What's the point of adding emphasis if all I am going to do is let you be wishy washy. I removed all the qualifying stuff and expressed the illogical conclusions that result from your line of thinking.
One thing I want to point out though - you said I misrepresented you. However, let me again quote you and then quote me and let people judge.
Peter Venkman wrote:From post 228
You misread. The death of a scum player is significantly more important early game than the death of a town player.Guardian wrote:Peter, your posts seem to be obsessed with reasoning that it is OK for a pro-town player to die...At this point town shouldn't be scared of death, whereas Scum are.
Emphasis added.Guardian wrote:From post 261
Occult Avi and Peter still top my list... I did a post point by point analysis on Peter that got erased and I really don't have the motivation to do it again, but I'll summarize by saying thatPeter, your repeated reasoning that townies should not be afraid of dying is at best misguided.Others have explained why, basically, if there is no vig and townies all just lynch other townies... they lose. Each townie should be trying very hard to stay alive, because if they get mislynched that is one mislynch closer to winning for the scum. It is always preferable for the town to lynch scum, and not town.
I obviously mean "at this point in the game", too. We both are referring to this game, and specifically my not wanting to die at this point in the game. In what other context could I possibly be taking your statements?
My statement about your logic is no more than rephrasing your wording - I find it egregiously erroneous to say that in that post I was misrepresenting your line of thinking.
Like I said, it could definitely be seen as you trying to build momentum to lynch me, and then when it's revealed that I'm town, be able to say "Oh but darn, I was so convinced of his guilt."Do not lynch me.
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Avinyl Townie
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Occult Goon
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Peter Venkman Goon
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Peter Venkman Goon
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Paradoxombie Mafia Scum
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John stuck wiht bad english
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@ peter> I agree that if all people tried to survive just for themselfs, it would not be good for town. all im saying is that if you just give up and die, the town loses a vote, which is the towns greatest, and basicly only, power. I'm not saying vanilla townies have equal power, but they still have power, and are the backbone to any(well, most any) mafia game.
An no, im not fishing, and you can't do anything for me. i simply stated an observation, one that far from merits a vote or FoS in my opinion, which is why i placed neither on you.I'm not who you think I am. Unless you guess right. Then you know who I am.-
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John stuck wiht bad english
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Peter Venkman Goon
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