Graveyard Shift Mafia - ROLL CREDITS

[Svenskt Stål]

Serene did you leave any bread-crumbs?

Does Innocent Child count?

No.

I mean you looked pretty hard for bread-crumbs, so doesn't really make any sense if you didn't leave any.

I can't answer for my other heads, but as the one who found the LD's crumbs, by the time when I joined the game, there was no need for me to crumb, because: as I said before, I thought BnB were crumbing cop, so instead of crumbing blindly, I was trying to hint to them that I read their softclaims and that I was also a cop.

I have it linked in my full claim.

@Sven: Who do you think were better choices for my investigation then? I actioned as soon as the shift opened today.

I also admitted that it's a bit of a wishing on my part on my guess of the sanities

. There is nothing in my role PM that says I or Titus

has

to be insane. But, there was also nothing in my role PM that

guaranteed

the existence of 2nd cop, so take it as you will.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure that Zora is the lynch for today, and you know what? I'm fine with that. If we assume that Titus and I are both sane, and going by the

absolute wording of the role PM

, this would be the case, then Zora is confirmed scum and BnB is confirmed town.

Bolded is my main problem, it fucks everything up, it makes your claim worthless.

Dependig on how may shots you have i would have checked BRO offcourse, which would confirm MY sanity.

I agree that zoraster is the lynch. But we should not end the day, let night shift hae their say on this aswell. There is no need to end the day.

[Svenskt Stål]

* checked BRO against myself obv.

[Infinite Jesters]

I remember them well enough, though. Why do you think Mastin I accurately describing how he's read you in the past is scummy?

Because he is trying to cast doubt on me with bs.

Could you quote where he said how he reads you again? I'm not willing to do a lot of reading at the moment because I haven't has much sleep, but I can give my opinions easily enough.

[Serene2]

Are you even reading Sven?

Bro can't be targeted by any abilities.

I cannot target myself with my ability.

Go read page 1 and my full claim.

[Svenskt Stål]

When I read through, I thought that BnB was being antitown, but not necessarily scummy. I'm definitely biased thanks to my other two heads remarking every other post in the hydra qt about how BnB is obvscum.

The biggest thing I have against them is their softclaim. I legitimately thought it was a cop crumb. Now, I just feel betrayed.

Their softclaim can also be cop cover.

[Svenskt Stål]

Are you even reading Sven?

Bro can't be targeted by any abilities.

I cannot target myself with my ability.

Go read page 1 and my full claim.

Oh sorry, apparantly i am not reading.

[Infinite Jesters]

Are you even reading Sven?

Bro can't be targeted by any abilities.

I cannot target myself with my ability.

Go read page 1 and my full claim.

Can you please just stop with the bullshit?
Thank you.

[Zdenek]

I remember them well enough, though. Why do you think Mastin I accurately describing how he's read you in the past is scummy?

Because he is trying to cast doubt on me with bs.

Could you quote where he said how he reads you again? I'm not willing to do a lot of reading at the moment because I haven't has much sleep, but I can give my opinions easily enough.

My read on Zdenek is also basically that he looks highly like scum at this point. I'm not feeling the townvibes from him, which I normally do.

Every single game of yours in the last couple of years we've shared? (Okay, granted. One or both heads of us have been scum in almost every single game we've had with you. BUTSTILL.)

This is verifiably false. If you look at our three most recent completed games where we were both town. NY165 is the only one where you read me correctly early on. As for the other two:

Adventure Time Mafia. You were with Nacho as Calcifer. Here was your read on me early on. We were both town.
"Nullish-town. Opposite of you on Vifam, which is nullish-scum."


In fairness, later Nacho town read me: " Rainbowdash, Kawaii, Zdenek, bv, Zoidberg plus both masons are also townreads"
but then you went back to scum in 1833, voted me in 2110.

Pikmin Mafia. We were both town. Here was your first read on me.

"NULL:
Zajnet (eh, gut says scum, but no posts=no read), PeregrineV, Zdenek (if I had a read on him, I've forgotten it. He's posted, but I honestly don't remember him--basically, a lesser PV). (3.)"

as for later on (post 1791) you went to weak town because of me pushing on someone. In 2735 you said I looked like scum.

I won't go on.

If we look at NY:165 as Calcifer, you read me correctly (early, post 29, 53), but you were iffy on me later on (2315).

The point is that you do not have a history of reading based on giving off town-vibes, maybe in NY:165, but then you certainly doubted whether they were right. So I think you've borrowed a way of reading me from DGB because it sounds good.

@ zden

I agree with how mastina read you. I see the same things. I think as town you are a balanced player and are often underestimated. <----- you know that I feel this way. so where is the conflict with how mastina reads you?

you referenced a game yeah? can you walk me back through that plz cos that happened in the first day round and your indignation felt genuine but again *scftwr*

Well, with you, there is history of you actually reading me this way with Mastin, there isn't. Frankly, I think that Mastin stole this way of reading me from other people because he thinks that it sounds good.

To walk you though things, here are links to the three most recent games that Mastin and I were in where he was town. There's also Street racers NY, but I replaced in late on day one, so I'll leave it out. You should ISO Mastin searching for me and look to see if he reads me by getting town vibes from me or for that matter if there is any evidence of the respect that he seems to have for my play.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=25573 (Adventure time, as Calcifer)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=26193 (Pikmin Mafia)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=29163 (NY: 165, as Calcifer)

[Serene2]

There's no way you would've missed that if you were scum sven

Thanks for townslipping, but you were already my strongest townread. =_=

[Svenskt Stål]

Zdenek, I wouldread that if it was anyone but mastin.

[Infinite Jesters]

So, Zdenek, I think that I would also characterize you as a player I generally get townreads from, and when I don't. I think you're pretty solidly scum. I also think I have a similar record to Mastin as far as reading you goes (I did mislynch the hell out of you in Scummies), so I can empathize with his position. I have trouble understanding how he's not townreading you at this point.

[Svenskt Stål]

So, Zdenek, I think that I would also characterize you as a player I generally get townreads from, and when I don't.

I think you're pretty solidly scum.

I also think I have a similar record to Mastin as far as reading you goes (I did mislynch the hell out of you in Scummies), so I can empathize with his position.

I have trouble understanding how he's not townreading you at this point.

i dont understand

[Serene2]

Are you even reading Sven?

Bro can't be targeted by any abilities.

I cannot target myself with my ability.

Go read page 1 and my full claim.

Can you please just stop with the bullshit?
Thank you.

You're pretty much just scum who's blatantly doing things to hurt the town, and apparently people are townreading you for it.

It blows my mind. Didn't you claim lovers? Why are you still alive again?

I don't remotely understand how the heck Mastin thinks you're untouchable town.

[Infinite Jesters]

That period should be a comma.

[Zdenek]

Um, I don't think that Mastin usually reads me as town when we are both town. See adventure time, pikmin.

I don't think I understand your post.

[Infinite Jesters]

Are you even reading Sven?

Bro can't be targeted by any abilities.

I cannot target myself with my ability.

Go read page 1 and my full claim.

Can you please just stop with the bullshit?
Thank you.

You're pretty much just scum who's blatantly doing things to hurt the town, and apparently people are townreading you for it.

It blows my mind. Didn't you claim lovers? Why are you still alive again?

I don't remotely understand how the heck Mastin thinks you're untouchable town.

Advice to improve your scumgame: When you are attacking people and calling them scum and pretending they are a strong scumread, do so consistently, not just when they are attacking you. When you have a strong fake scumread on someone, also attempt to come up with multiple reasons.

[Svenskt Stål]

I can see mollie being town, I can see serene being town

Can it be so easy that scum is in jordan agar and venmar?

[Infinite Jesters]

Um, I don't think that Mastin usually reads me as town when we are both town. See adventure time, pikmin.

I don't think I understand your post.

I acknowledge your point but am not fully convinced by it.

[Infinite Jesters]

I can see mollie being town, I can see serene being town

Can it be so easy that scum is in jordan agar and venmar?

No.

[Infinite Jesters]

What is believable about Serene's claim, exactly?

[Serene2]

Are you even reading Sven?

Bro can't be targeted by any abilities.

I cannot target myself with my ability.

Go read page 1 and my full claim.

Can you please just stop with the bullshit?
Thank you.

You're pretty much just scum who's blatantly doing things to hurt the town, and apparently people are townreading you for it.

It blows my mind. Didn't you claim lovers? Why are you still alive again?

I don't remotely understand how the heck Mastin thinks you're untouchable town.

Advice to improve your scumgame: When you are attacking people and calling them scum and pretending they are a strong scumread, do so consistently, not just when they are attacking you. When you have a strong fake scumread on someone, also attempt to come up with multiple reasons.

I never townread you in this game.

You claimed lovers for towncred, then proceeded to throw as mud on the cop confirmed with crumbs of a confirmed player.

Why are you still alive again?

[Infinite Jesters]

D.B. actually stands for Demonic Bro cop, which is my real role.
Why are you throwing mud on the cop confirmed with the crumbs of a confirmed player???

[Infinite Jesters]

Or DB stands for my real name, David Bryant, which Titus knows because we went to high school together.
Why are you throwing mud om the cop confirmed with the crumbs of a confirmed player???

[Svenskt Stål]

What is believable about Serene's claim, exactly?

I am not putting weight in to the actual claim, since it is meaningless.

I am basing my read on kuribos interaction and some answers.

[Infinite Jesters]

And you thought all of those random I's we're just filler to throw people off? No motherfucker, they were roman numerals standing for the number of times I made love to a prostitute in the hot sun, which double confirms the cop crumb to me because said prostitute was eventually arrested by a cop which is why we stopped making love