Mafia v. Wolves Redux: Finally Over!

[Scarecrow]

Does anyone have any idea of what sorts of roles we might be dealing with here? What the heck does "Redux" mean?

[Kison]

It means "again". As in this is not the first of its kind.

[Mr. Flay]

The first "Mafia Vs. Wolves" game modded by Phoebus:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=528

[al4xz]

I await the OTU Claim, if not I say we just get rid of him and see for ourselves. Hmmm...A large group of scum, you say? Probable. I'd say even very likely. Hmm...OTU, you better claim or only death awaits you, most likely. Mod, can we have a vote count?

~Alex~

[Raffles]

OTU has disappeared at most crucial of times...

I'm not there to place the hammer when the deadline comes I'm afraid, someone else needs to do that.

[XReyoX]

Mod

could you

prod OTU

x1000 times until he appears please. and may we have an

extention

pls. Analyzing people's comment after his claim is really important for us ><

[IH]

Alright.

1.IH apologizes for inactivity. IH will get into this game as soon as possible.

2.Players can help IH, and the town, by giving their top three suspicions and why.

3.Has OTU claimed?

4.Have the deadline rules been clarified?

[Fuldu]

OTU has disappeared at most crucial of times...

I'm not there to place the hammer when the deadline comes I'm afraid, someone else needs to do that.

No, no one will need to do that, as I've already pointed out, but people seem not to have bothered to check, the deadline lynch rules are pretty clear, and OTU is presently in line to be deadline lynched, per the rules:

At deadline, half majority or more will constitute a lynch. First come, first served. Less than half majority = no lynch. Endgame (6 players or less) will require fully majority regardless of deadline.

So even if no one posts between now and then, OTU will be lynched.

And the only thing that my reread turned up was that Raffles dissuaded OTU from claiming when he was first thinking about doing so two weeks ago.

[XReyoX]

Less than half majority = no lynch.

I guess we need 11 votes

[TBuG]

2.Players can help IH, and the town, by giving their top three suspicions and why.

OTU, general scumminess.
Raffles, some of his earlier posts were off to me.
Akbar, his vote on me is silly.

[remussaidow]

Less than half majority = no lynch.

I guess we need 11 votes

less than half majority means 6 votes, I believe...

[XReyoX]

but we are 21

[theopor_COD]

A Majority is 11 though. Half would be 6.

Elsewhere where is OTU?

[Kison]

He said he was busy. I won't be giving him the benefit of the doubt. A claim was asked for, and that takes two minutes to answer.

[Mr. Flay]

My vote won't be moving before the deadline, unless someone melts down unexpectedly.

IH: Also would like your thoughts on al4xz's hypocrisy.

[IH]

So far, from looking through the filter, I'm going to

Vote:OTU

Seriously, at lynch minus 2 once, comes down, and is right back up there? Come on.

Al4xz never really complained about someone lurking. I don't see the hypocrisy.

I will

FoS:Al4xz

though, because I don't like any of his posts. They repeat one statement repeatedly (He's not defending himself, only shooting back responses!), and he has repeatedly said "Let's just lynch him. Come on, let's just do it, can we please?"

Yet, he hasn't really pushed anything else, he even says "Claim or death surely awaits you." His repeated statements about him defending himself seem more like 'Hey, you should defend yourself'

It confuses us that's why it's scummy in my opinion but like I said I don't know if that's your newb-ishness showing or your intent. But it seems to be mostly newbishness so Unvote.

This is uncommittal scum.

No I'm clearly stating that I don't know if you have prior experience with other sites, and games. Therefore saying I'm not sure if it's newb-ish qualities you're showing or if that's what you are trying to do on purpose. The second part is because I believe that you are showing more newb-ish qualities then experienced so it was the more likely situation that it was just newb-ishness showing than you actually trying to confuse us. In reference to Battle Mage's post you just want on a bandwagon, no actual reason? Just to vote me for the hell of it? Interesting.

Trying to keep a dying wagon alive while staying off of it just in case it does.

When he got to minus 2 and noticed it he didn't post for... oh, a full week.

I think OTU is the play for today, Al4xz would be a viable lynch for tomorrow I think. OTU's alignment will at least give me a large amount of information about Al4xz.

[Kison]

That's a hammer, IH. Honestly, it doesn't make a difference to me. My bets would have gone on OTU not responding.

Code: Select all

OverTheUnder (11): Battle Mage, DrippingGoofball, Fuldu, Mastermind of Sin, Mr Flay, remussaidow, PBuG, Scarecrow, al4x, theopor_COD, IH
PBuG         (2) : Akbar, OverTheUnder
remussaidow  (2) : Kison, theopor_COD

Goodnight, town...

[IH]

= | Skipped a page in reading.

[Zindaras]

Gah, I was just writing my analysis. Here it is, unfinished. I'll attempt to finish it before Phoebus comes in. If not, you'll get it in the morning. I'd like to state that, at the point where I am now, I agree with an OTU lynch.

Yea, sure! I'm Yuri from red alert. So don't pick up the phone next time when I call you or you'll be mind-controlled and vote to lynch yourself. ... Wait actually, I'll tell you to lynch your scum-mate and NK yourself. By the way has anyone played the new command and conquer 3 demo. The graphics are

really

good.

Yuri's Revenge was such an awesome game.

The whole XReyoX-wagon at the start of the game seems pretty tangential to me.

Post 42, by al4xz, seems really scummy to me. That's some really bad bandwagon-hopping there. Same goes IH. He should know better.

5 XReyoX (al4xz, IH, Kison, PBuG, Raffles)

Definitely worth remembering.

OMGUS vote: Wizardcat

Dog pwns cats... anyday.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/ ... endyou.jpg

(click the link, I shouldn't spam up threads with big pictures)

IH's 92 is bad. 97-99 is odd, explained in 101. IH's 110 is better. OTU's vote on Reyo looks pretty bad. bird's posting is weak. His post 121 shows he's following the game, but he doesn't weigh in. I really don't know what to make of Fuldu's 124. 149 is horrible. Scarecrow, I know you can do lots better.

SV may be lurking a bit, but its also true that he has excused his absence on another game we are both in. I think he will be back full time soon, but a prod wouldnt go amiss.

She, she. My precious voidybuns is a she!

PBuG is being wagony as hell. 173 jumps out.

Fascinating. And yet you assumed there were three per team, that the teams were equal, and that 3 scum on a team would be enough of a scum group in a game subject to crosskills. That speaks of prior knowledge to me.

Vote stands. I'm not feeling the XReyoX bandwagon at all, it looks like scum jumping on the fat kid.

You're right about prior knowledge, but Mafia nor Wolves would know the size of both scumgroups.

Al4xz just decides to jump back in in Post 185. Raffles is being silly in 186. 191-192 jump out again, OTU by scumminess and PBuG by pointing it out. Fuldu is again right in 195.

4 OverTheUnder (DrippingGoofball, Fuldu, Mastermind of Sin, Raffles)
6 Raffles (Der Hammer, Kison, Mr Flay, PBuG, Scarecrow, Wizardcat)

(it must be noted that Der Hammer's vote here was a leftover from the random voting phase)

This is also an interesting vote count to remember. BM's 202 is memorable if Kison is scum.

[XReyoX]

= | Skipped a page in reading.

May I ask which page did you skipped?

At the end of page

20

. He was at

10 votes

.
(Battle Mage, DrippingGoofball, Fuldu, Mastermind of Sin, Mr Flay, PBuG, remussaidow, Scarecrow, al4xz, theopor_COD)

If you have only skipped p.20 and have read up to 19.
He was at

8 votes

(Battle Mage, DrippingGoofball, Fuldu, Mastermind of Sin, Mr Flay, remussaidow, PBuG, Scarecrow)

If you have skipped both p. 19 and 20. You would be thinking that he was having

7 votes

(Battle Mage, DrippingGoofball, Fuldu, Mastermind of Sin, Mr Flay, remussaidow, Raffles)

If you have only read up to p. 17 then made your vote. you would be thinking that he has

8 votes

before you voted (Battle Mage, DrippingGoofball, Fuldu, Kison, Mastermind of Sin, Mr Flay, remussaidow, Raffles)

So. Why were you thinking he had 9 votes?

[Battle Mage]

FOS: Zindy

. After OTU has had a big wagon for ages, which stuttered and started more than any other i have seen, you made a conscious decision not to vote. Now the decision has been made without your help, you claim to support it, in the hope that you wont be suspected tomorrow. Its a commendable plan-far more subtle than bussing your scumbuddy, but if OTU comes up scum, i will be keeping a very close eye on you tomorrow.

Gah, I was just writing my analysis. Here it is, unfinished. I'll attempt to finish it before Phoebus comes in. If not, you'll get it in the morning. I'd like to state that, at the point where I am now, I agree with an OTU lynch.

Yea, sure! I'm Yuri from red alert. So don't pick up the phone next time when I call you or you'll be mind-controlled and vote to lynch yourself. ... Wait actually, I'll tell you to lynch your scum-mate and NK yourself. By the way has anyone played the new command and conquer 3 demo. The graphics are

really

good.

Yuri's Revenge was such an awesome game.

The whole XReyoX-wagon at the start of the game seems pretty tangential to me.

Post 42, by al4xz, seems really scummy to me. That's some really bad bandwagon-hopping there. Same goes IH. He should know better.

5 XReyoX (al4xz, IH, Kison, PBuG, Raffles)

Definitely worth remembering.

OMGUS vote: Wizardcat

Dog pwns cats... anyday.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/ ... endyou.jpg

(click the link, I shouldn't spam up threads with big pictures)

IH's 92 is bad. 97-99 is odd, explained in 101. IH's 110 is better. OTU's vote on Reyo looks pretty bad. bird's posting is weak. His post 121 shows he's following the game, but he doesn't weigh in. I really don't know what to make of Fuldu's 124. 149 is horrible. Scarecrow, I know you can do lots better.

SV may be lurking a bit, but its also true that he has excused his absence on another game we are both in. I think he will be back full time soon, but a prod wouldnt go amiss.

She, she. My precious voidybuns is a she!

PBuG is being wagony as hell. 173 jumps out.

Fascinating. And yet you assumed there were three per team, that the teams were equal, and that 3 scum on a team would be enough of a scum group in a game subject to crosskills. That speaks of prior knowledge to me.

Vote stands. I'm not feeling the XReyoX bandwagon at all, it looks like scum jumping on the fat kid.

You're right about prior knowledge, but Mafia nor Wolves would know the size of both scumgroups.

Al4xz just decides to jump back in in Post 185. Raffles is being silly in 186. 191-192 jump out again, OTU by scumminess and PBuG by pointing it out. Fuldu is again right in 195.

4 OverTheUnder (DrippingGoofball, Fuldu, Mastermind of Sin, Raffles)
6 Raffles (Der Hammer, Kison, Mr Flay, PBuG, Scarecrow, Wizardcat)

(it must be noted that Der Hammer's vote here was a leftover from the random voting phase)

This is also an interesting vote count to remember. BM's 202 is memorable if Kison is scum.

[Raffles]

Okay I'm going to have a restricted access starting immediate until 16th. I may or may not be able to post once a day. I hope you don't find a need to replace me.

[IH]

Because I read page 20, and didn't think to look back when it hit 21, so I missed the minus 1 vote.

[~N9V~]

Bah. Well someone had to do it. Or else we could be here for weeks awaiting a claim.

[IH]

Actually we'd be done tomorrow, as that is the deadline.