NY 168: (GAME OVER) The Mod is Dead, Fire and Ice Edition

[T S O]

I'm just so apathetic.

[Bulbazak]

Bulb why would you be ok with lynching me? Do you have something like a case?

I actually thought PV made a good case, and I have a strong town read on him. I'm willing to trust him on this.

I'm just so apathetic.

Well, we'll probably need to agree on who's getting lynched today. So...Rach or NJAC?

[T S O]

Bulba, is it better if we talk in the QT? idk.

[T S O]

I have this horrible feeling you could be scum but I'm dead tonight and I'm so mentally tired I'm not even entertaining paranoia.

[ElectricSavages]

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RachMarie [1]

- Bulbazak

[L-1]

Aegor [1]

- RachMarie

Not Voting [2]

- T S O, Aegor, PeregrineV

With 5 alive, it takes

3[/i]

votes to lynch.

Deadline falls on 12^th March 2014 at 1000 GMT ((expired on 2014-03-12 10:00:00))

Are we getting a replacement for NJAC?

Yes you are, searching currently

Aegor Replaces NJAC, deadline extended to Wednesday to give time to catch up

[Bulbazak]

Bulba, is it better if we talk in the QT? idk.

I don't think it matters. I'm off to get food and then D&D, so I probably won't be checking into this until later tonight at the earliest.

[Aegor]

UNVOTE:

May not read all of game thoroughly, but probably will skim. Any hot topics or highlights lists would be welcome and appreciated.

[Aegor]

Just finished reading this trainwreck of a game.

Also, skipped over mastin's name in the dead list. If he were alive I would be pursuing her with the fiery anger of a thousand burning suns.

Not seeing any reason not to lynch Rach. Her entire posting is meh.

VOTE: Rach

Spoiler: Random posts

I really would prefer to lynch scum over a village idiot. But I doubt I'm going to get my way today.

LOL. As soon as Zek flipped Garmr was confscum based on this post alone.

I have a lot to say, especially to Mastin, but there's another major reveal coming, and I promised to hold off. I plan on voting for Pacman, though.

Did I miss something? I cannot even remember what this reveal was.

ICE 4 LIFE BITCHES

LOL

vote: Slandaar

either is fine.

vote: JKLM

This wouldn't be so bad by itself.

Fire:
Maxous
Slandaar
JKLM

Ice:
Yiley
aptil
????

Aptil is cleared of Ice-scum.

Garmr is doing the Lord's work in 581, I'm glad we see the same relationship between Maxous and JKLM. do you have an idea of teams yet? and how do you feel about Slandaar?

As is Garmr.

vote: Slandaar

woah deja vu

vote: JKLM

What the fuck is this?

vote: Desperado

This is significant, somehow, I think.

Unvote

I'm loath just to clear him on this, I guess.

Vote: Slandaar

Spoiler: Rach

No I am still trying to peg peeps in this game I dont play in a lot of large games, and it always takes me a while to figure everyone out, especially since this is multiball that makes it even more complicated.

Your post makes ZERO sense Aptil and clearly you have no clue how to read me.

Clearly you are going after low hanging fruit duh...

I think Aptil is scum. Not sure if he is hot or cold just feel he is scum.

He is going for low hanging fruit

, doing exactly what he is accusing me of, and he is less active than I am and that takes some doing with all the issues I have been dealing with.

Look at how they both jumped on me no cases no real reasons just oh she is a

low hanging fruit

and VLA then sick.

That was to Slaan.

Yes the push seems a bit overkill by Des, but my experience in playing with him is he tends to tunnel hard and often does not want to give up tunneling. So that in itself is not enough to say Des is for sure scum. Need more reasons.

Bulb I know its not super helpful and I am sorry about that but I am still playing catchup in this game.

"Don't lynch Desp! Because your reasons are not good! I know that is not helpful but believe me!"

I have some doubts about Pere too this is feeling much like scum Pere in Doctor Who.

Vote: RachMarie

I just feel underwhelmed by everything she's done in general. Plus I gotta vote somewhere that might get lynched in the next day before deadline (assuming no extension due to aptil's replacement).

Tru' 'dat.

Then push that tomorrow Bulb we do not have time and a NL is bad juju. ESPECIALLY with two potential kills a night.

Town

TSO
Bulb
PA
Slaan


Scum

Des (light read)

Pere
Aptil

That seems like an extraordinarily nice place for a scumbuddy to be placed.

I have Slaan as a town read could someone please explain their scum read on him?

However I still think Aptil and Pere are scum. Since we are waiting for Aptil's replacement,

VOTE: Pere

I been scum reading pere for ages I think his Ice scum.

What do you think now, specifically?

Looked at Desp's wagon. If someone was bussing, it was Rach.

But it seems odd that he naked voted Rach in retaliation.

Ugh.

Why would that seem odd at all?

I have a stronger scum read on Pere and Zek, however because I do have a light scum read on NJAC, I would be willing to switch to him if we get close to deadline.

Read on Pere now?

crap we are in

LYLO

One fire and One ice most likely left.

I have a town read on TSO and Bulb

Which means I think the remaining scum is Pere and NJAC.

BTW I am just a VT bleah

so we have only one ice scum left? whew so not in LYLO

Yeah, I am so glad that you do not have to pretend to be freaked out anymore.

meh then probably I am wrong about Pere

I thought he was fire scum.

NJAC seems more icy to me

VOTE: NJAC

How does this make any sense? The pairings are 2 Fire and 4 Ice? With no PRs for the Fire?

[RachMarie]

yep NJAC now Aegor is the last scum

his case on me is misreps and about the fact I stated I am low hanging fruit, which is something anyone who knows me knows is true. And clearly he is picking me because I voted him.


I am fine with my vote

[RachMarie]

Bulb and TSO stay strong you two can still win this, even if I am lynched today,

I am just a VT as I said.

Of the two Pere and Aegor, vote Aegor.

Good luck

[Aegor]

Anyone who attacks you is scum? That is what it sounds like.

his case on me is misreps and about the fact I stated I am low hanging fruit, which is something anyone who knows me knows is true.

What misreps? And I find it hard to believe you are low-hanging fruit in this game when you replaced ArcAngel on Day 1 and it is now Day 6.

And clearly he is picking me because I voted him.

Talk about a misrep.


Bulba and TSO are conftown for the moment as far as I am concerned, but Garmr was scum and I would rather clarify again.

@Mod: Do both scum teams have the same roles?

[PeregrineV]

I'm here and will drop more wisdom later.

[Bulbazak]

I have a lot to say, especially to Mastin, but there's another major reveal coming, and I promised to hold off. I plan on voting for Pacman, though.

Did I miss something? I cannot even remember what this reveal was.

TSO said he was going to reveal his role (which he claimed was a 3rd party that disappeared from the game after being on 2 town wagons and 2 scum wagons). After Penguin claimed, he dragged his feet on the claim. I even offered to claim our neighborhood anyway, but he told me to hold off. So I essentially had to back down from that d3.

The Aegor attack is bad. He calls Rach suspicious for saying she is low-hanging fruit. The problem is that the person she was talking about, Aptil, actually ended up being scum, so she was right. Also, the attack on her forgetfulness is bad. He's ignoring where she's constantly missed out on information in the thread. Now, I could understand if he said he believed it was all faked, but to skip it entirely and present the information as something other than it was is a massive misrep.

And I find it hard to believe you are low-hanging fruit in this game when you replaced ArcAngel on Day 1 and it is now Day 6.

And that makes her not low-hanging fruit how?

@Mod: Do both scum teams have the same roles?

This is a useless question, only meant to make it look as if you're trying to figure things out. Garmr has already stated that both teams are all vanilla. We have no reason to doubt him, because he was throwing the game at the time. This means that he would have been completely truthful in everything he was saying.

Unvote

Vote Aegor

[Aegor]

@Bulba:

Misrep. I do not like people calling themselves lynchbait, but that is not the most substantial reason for voting her. First, POE basically restricts the lynch pool to myself, Pere, and Rach. Second, she would be a fire maf in all likelyhood, which means her accurate push on aptil is irrelevant. Third, her reaction to the Desp lynch was just plain bad. Fourth, I have not read the entire thread that closely so I apologize if I missed something.

And that makes her not low-hanging fruit how?

If she were actually low-hanging fruit she would be dead by definition. Unless our definitions differ.

This is a useless question, only meant to make it look as if you're trying to figure things out. Garmr has already stated that both teams are all vanilla. We have no reason to doubt him, because he was throwing the game at the time. This means that he would have been completely truthful in everything he was saying.

I agree that he could have been truthful. Why not mod-confirm it? I already said I consider you both confirmed town. Why would you not rather actually be confirmed town?

[T S O]

I ...don't want to lynch Rach.

unvote

[Aegor]

So what are you waiting for; hammer me? The only possible scum are Rach, Pere, and I, as far as I can tell. Unless you can neighborize scum, but Bulba's posting as been consistently awesome.

So this game is simply a matter of deciding which one of the three of us is not scum and lynching the other two.

[T S O]

Of course I can neighbourise scum.

[T S O]

Bulb and TSO stay strong you two can still win this, even if I am lynched today,

I am just a VT as I said.

Of the two Pere and Aegor, vote Aegor.

Good luck

This is me when I'm getting lynched telling Town exactly what they do when they've fucked it up by getting me.

[Aegor]

Great. So one of Pere and I is scum. Game solved.

And an easily-fakable death post should be a null tell. I do it every single game as scum and town. Not providing one is basically a scumclaim unless the player is pissed-off town. I mean, I have no problem dying today, but Rach really should be lynched tomorrow.

[T S O]

It is, but you're not Rach.

Why are you townreading Bulba?

[Aegor]

When I was reading through the game, I found his posts informative, incisive, and insightful. I must admit great personal bias given his strong attack on mastin, whom I expecting to flip scum given how terrible her posts were.

Are you suggesting we cast our nets wider?

[T S O]

He's not conftown.

[Aegor]

Bulba was the first on the Desp lynch wagon. That is some hardcore bussing right there. Other VC analysis on him is inconclusive. I am really not seeing it.

[T S O]

Do you think Bulba has -any- problem bussing?

[Aegor]

I am not qualified to say. You are more than welcome to link to past games you would find useful. But he did start the Desp wagon and pressed Desp for trying to lynch Toomai before anyone else did. I mean, his interactions with Desp speak for themselves. Again, I see nothing that causes me to believe Bulba is scum even for a second. Also noteworthy is this exchange:

Back and not much to change this. Would also vote Desp.

Back and not much to change this. Would also vote Desp.

Then why don't you?