In post 5538, Casso the King of Seals wrote:Pie, I will also point out that SSK joined 1 major wagon (stuffed crust near deadline). His reaction to every other wagon has been "why is this wagon happening? I don't like it.". I don't know how you have a townread on Muffin.
wow this is really weak. I was expecting "you're wrong, here's why". but instead you don't even directly address my point? what the hell nacho? where'd all your passion go 0.0
anyway, what motivation would scum-SSK have for pushing a vanity wagon on BBQ as opposed tyo jumping on town-you for p much the same reason? especially considering he was complaining about you seemingly following Nati earlier. idr how much support there was for BBQ lynch but I don't think there was that much, so why wouldn't he try to get a p strong town player mislynched instead? and he wouldn't have to worry about you turning the wagon aroudn on his ass bc he was already about to be lynched anyway
In post 5551, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Based on interactions with SSK, I think Ser Arthur Dayne is scum. His defense against an SSK flashwagon at the end of D1 based purely on the lack of associative tells is weak. I guess the flip side is that scum knew SSK wasn't dying D1 because he had a doc fake-claim so there would be some scum running him up. But, not claiming D1 would actually be beneficial for scum. And the reasoning is really bad. I am thinking SAD is very likely the second scum. Not sure about the others yet.
Sakura, can you answer my questions?
^^^ this
In post 5557, Cephrir wrote:pie I hate to break it to you after all this work but I really don't think this is a good argument
care to explain why not? also feel free to answer the above question
where the hell did your casso townread come from anyway? I can't find the reason for it anywhere
In post 5567, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I am surprised more people aren't commenting on SAD's wierd defense of SSK considering we now know for sure that SSK is scum.
I'VE BEEN COMMENTING ON IT THE WHOLE TIME
but everyone ignored me too
In post 5589, MC Maraca wrote:You know that we're town, and that vote isn't gonna do anything. You also know that I've been defending you, so me placing that vote didn't just come from no where. If you're town, instead of OMGUS'ing and attempting to flail, it'll probably be more conductive if you gave my hydra partner and my mason partner a reason to read you as town
what do you think of casso's response to my VCA?
In post 5593, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:So, I've been thinking about this and re-evaluating my thoughts. Why not lynch a different player than SSK today? SSK as scum is harmless to us since we already lost the vig. I doubt it makes much difference whether we lynch him now or later. The key reason I feel this way is that as time goes on the skill of the town deteriorates as the competent townies get killed. We should lynch the best scum (the ones capable of talking themselves of out trouble) while the competent townies are still alive. That way, we ensure they don't come up with a crazy way to wiggle their way out of lynches later on. On the other hand, SSK can be lynched anytime. I found it interesting he didn't claim to be roleblocked or anything but scumclaimed right away. Anyone can lynch him anytime. It is a foregone conclusion. On the other hand, the best scum players are usually only lynched when the best townies are still alive and they are far more of a threat. ffery, what are your thoughts about this? Also, Sakura's responses were meh. I didn't really find anything that made me go "well, that explains everything." It is still a matter of weighing whether she genuinely believed in that tell enough to outweigh her ignoring it in two other games.
this x 999. I was actually thinking about this earlier but I didn't know if it'd be a good idea or not 0.0
vote: Arthur
wanna lynch Arthur with me?
In post 5599, Cephrir wrote:No. We are lynching SSK today. If we have any remaining investigative roles we give them a night; SSK could be a scum PR; narrows the field for tomorrow though this one is probably not relevant. I see no compelling reason to do anything else.
I don't get the first one
if SSK is a scum PR why would he give up so easily? this is scum motivated thinking in that you don't actually try to figure out if he is a PR or not and instead use ATP. and why would you wanna lynch SSK over arthur of all people considering your whole crusade against him earlier?
lynching SSK does the exact opposite of narrowing the field. if we lynch SSK then the lynchpool tomorrow is the exact same as it was today, so it doesn't get narrowed at all 0.0 but if we lynch someone else we get way more information. we can lynch SSK anytime as we have him in the bag p much. it's way better to lynch someone else today
