NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Vote: Bert

[MC Maraca]

Nero, if you're gonna try and call us sum to troll us, at least try and get our heads right. You know it annoys me when people try to sort out alignment via X head when Y head is speaking.


These last 10or so pages are shut btw

I have made my berth read fairly clear

[KoreanBBQ]

daykill:MC Maraca

[MC Maraca]

daykill:MC Maraca

Yawn. You're terrible at this game, mr. already claimed vt and "dayvigging" the mason.

[MC Maraca]

And that is obv a gambit.

Your so transparent.

I don't have comp access for a while so nothing to in depth here, srry if I dissapoint

[KoreanBBQ]

You know it annoys me when people try to sort out alignment via X head when Y head is speaking.

no one sorting by heads. I thought Mara posted hence I was responding to what I thought was Mara. Sorting by heads? The fuck are you on?

daykill:MC Maraca

Yawn. You're terrible at this game, mr. already claimed vt and "dayvigging" the mason.

Why are you so certain that we ARE a VT?

[KoreanBBQ]

You know it annoys me when people try to sort out alignment via X head when Y head is speaking.

no one sorting by heads. I thought Mara posted hence I was responding to what I thought was Mara. Sorting by heads? The fuck are you on?

daykill:MC Maraca

Yawn. You're terrible at this game, mr. already claimed vt and "dayvigging" the mason.

Why are you so certain that we ARE a VT?

[KoreanBBQ]

I have made my berth read fairly clear

So vote him already.

[MC Maraca]

Well, if you just shot the masons as a dayvig; you're a scum dayvig so that works itself out badly for your wincon. So uh no shit.

[MC Maraca]

I have made my berth read fairly clear

So vote him already.

You're not my real dad.

[KoreanBBQ]

Its kinda dumb but scum have claimed masons before.

[BROseidon]

I've like, super power skimmed most of what I'm behind on.

If SSK is around for too long, I'm PLing that shit. I'll leave "too long" ambiguous for now. Only concern I have is that he's a strong scum PR gambiting to stay alive as long as possible.

Also, if anyone expects me to remotely keep up with this spamfest while I'm V/LA, they can go eat some durian. Or something.

[KoreanBBQ]

I have made my berth read fairly clear

So vote him already.

You're not my real dad.

Mara-Bert connection found.

The last read of Bert was that you were "ok with lynching". I asked you your Bert read, you implied that it had not changed. So....why would you not hop on the Bert wagon? Who is a better wagon than Bert?

[MC Maraca]

I have made my berth read fairly clear

So vote him already.

You're not my real dad.

Mara-Bert connection found.

The last read of Bert was that you were "ok with lynching". I asked you your Bert read, you implied that it had not changed. So....why would you not hop on the Bert wagon? Who is a better wagon than Bert?

I'm not if I should call you stupid here, or let it speak for itself. Different heads.

[MC Maraca]

Because i am not cabd.

[MC Maraca]

Regardless, I am ok with lynching bert but I am not at all interested in laying down a vote at this moment when the day has just started and I can still talk to nqcho about stuff.

We aren't going to last forever

[KoreanBBQ]

But laying down a vote like...won't lynch him.

I just...

I have a headache.

[MC Maraca]

But laying down a vote like...won't lynch him.

I just...

I have a headache.

Hint: we're doing it to piss you offffffff~

[Bert]

there's a 5 hydra limit for this game right?

[Cephrir]

I see someone voting Bert. They should probably stop that.

Continuation of catchup incoming.

[Empire]

Day 2, Votecount 6

Bert (2)

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KoreanBBQ, Ser Arthur Dayne

Ser Arthur Dayne (2)

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Casso the King of Seals, Bert

Generic (1)

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DOMO

Not Voting (13)

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geists, MC Maraca, F-16_Fighting_Falcon, MafiaSSK, pieguyn, BROseidon, Norlkaz, goodmorning, Sakura Hana, zMuffinMan, Cephrir, Desperado, Generic

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch! Deadline is on January 11th at 10:10 AM EST (expired on 2014-01-11 11:10:12)

Mod Notes

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BROseidon is V/LA until January 3rd. Generic is V/LA until Monday.

[Cephrir]

Lazy fucker.

It's true. But that post you link doesn't tell me that cabd claimed mason, it tells me you were deeply hurt and upset by blah blah. Why would you be hurt and upset about a mafia game? I don't believe you. This feels like you're trying to give the impression of an emotional attachment to the game. This doesn't feel natural. Why are you hurt and upset by cabd?

What? Everyone around here gets too emotional about these games, surely you know that.

Ok fine well I'm liking mara's case, it's better than anything I can present vs varsoon so I'll sheep again.

vote F-16

Would you like some syrup with these waffles?

On further re-read, geists still hasn't done what i'd expect them to be doing by now, Also i'm retracting my townread on Casso and flipping it over. Nacho doesnt give easy townreads like that and it's bothering me like hell all.

Current reads:
Town: Maracabd, goodmorning, Bert, DOMO.
Leaning Town: Korean BBQ.
Leaning Scum: geists
Scumreads: Casso, SC.

Everyone else is null.

Oh, that's why we ran this up.

V/LA til after Christmas.

So glad you allow players like GOodmorning to coast like this. Have you isoed her posts? Since the self aware hand waving of being called suspicious for doing nothing she has fluff posted and prod doded her way along.

Had there not been a potential mason link thrown out I would put more energy into this, but just wanted to say those of you auto clearing her on this behaviour disgust me. That's not mafia, that's making up the numbers.

Sakura hana is almost the same, except she is now in focus so I expect to see something from her.

Scumlurk vs. townlurk.

Townlurk is bad, but ultimately comes from town.

GM's lurk looks like townlurk right now.

Please enlighten me, people keep saying this and I do not get it.

Ok so MC Maraca, BROseidon, Ser Arthur Dayne, why are they voting F-16?

A lot of F-16's interactions with Cabd/Mara rub me the wrong way. He's super trying to discredit them for bad reasons. It's like what I tried to do with Bauss in 167 with a lot less caps.

pedit: null to null/town range, but fuck if I can read either head effectively.

This was a great post.

And I never EVER produce them on cue when someone I'm scumreading demands one.

I thought you'd be more willing considering on that newbie game my scumread on you came from your lack of trajectory analysis.

That was hilarious, because you had no idea that what was most scummy in my behavior was pretending to do trajectory analysis when you asked for it, not that I hadn't done trajectory analysis before then.

Yeah, but i dont like your OWN trajectory of your read on me, your suspicion has been increasing like an OMGUS to my increasing suspicion on you and when i suddenly start putting you as leaning scum you instantly vote me

Oh, that's why we ran this up.

Pedit: why don't you all lynch F-16

Unvote: Stuffed Crust
Vote: F-16

Done.
I don't even have a case on him. I don't care.

++++++++++++++++++++++

Pedit: Thor's never been this freaking town, ever.

Can confirm. Seen townthor twice and scumthor zero times but I'm really liking his posts in this range (for comparison I have never liked a Thor post ever; in fairness I was scum on both occasions but he struck me as really neutral and unreadable)

Because my read on SC is meta related, my read on you and Casso is based on interactions with my scumread and myself overall and the reactions to my reaction tests.

And I already explained why I went for SC some posts ago:

SC has more votes.

Oh, that's why we ran this up.

I'm pretty sure any of the other ones can be faked but this:

I liked this section of the post as it, yet again shows that they are talking, and not only talking, but scum-hunting withing their QT. this post shows that they are debating reads, and that they are actually trying to find some kind of common ground

I spent 15 minutes thinking "How can i disprove this", I couldn't... hence I concede, Casso is town again.

Oh, that's why we ran this up.

HEY GUYS THE F-16 WAGON IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD GET THE FUCK OFF HIM. QUIT FUCKING SHEEPING MARA JUST BC SHE'S "CONFIDENT" IN HER READ. I'M CONFIDENT IN MY CASSO SCUMREAD WHY AREN'T YOU ALL SHEEPING ME INSTEAD. SURE MARA IS SUPPOSEDLY A MASON BUT WHO FUCKING CARES

EVERYTHING HE'S DONE MAKE SENSE FROM A TOWN MOTIVATION AND FROM A TOWN MODEL

EVERYTHING

AND I CAN'T SEE HOW APPARENTLY THERE'S SO MUCH SCUM MOTIVATION IN HIS ACTIONS FOR HIM TO BE LYNCHED

AS SOON AS GEISTS SAID THIS

In the Harry Potter game he and I played he said afterwards that he regretted not defending his town reads more vigorously than he did.

I FELT ESPECIALLY CONFIDENT THAT HE'S TOWN HERE

if he's WK'ing me then I'll accept defeat bc I'm 100% confident he's town >_<//

vote: SC

WE'RE LYNCHING THIS TODAY

I don't think I can relay how strange is was to see a really emotional capslock post right after one of your normal posts (which are generally hyper logical imo)

1) That only means im getting suspicions on them, not scumreading them overall.
2) That happened after I had made that post where i mentioned SC having more votes.

And you wonder why I think you're scum?

PEd: Oh well >_>

If you're town, you think I'm scum because your town-me model is way too sketchy to be useful and you're overconfident. Bert's read is at least driven by paranoia that he comes by quite honestly.

I kinda hope you are town, because it perversely pleases me any time someone I think is starting to be able to read me winds up with an epic fail.

Hehehetown

"how can i disprove this thing that you can't even prove yourself, welp, guess they're town"

barf

this game is an abomination

mara's towncasso case is littered with shitty towntells. casso is town for discussing reads in their qt (that you aren't privy to)? casso is town for miscommunicating and that comes more from town hydras (what??)?

that's your smoking gun? faking hydra interaction is not difficult. why do you think thor and nacho aren't capable of it?

PS i'm townreading both mara and casso right now. but that is literally the only thing i found interesting since the last time i posted

whoever said that mara's case convinced them to change their

I too take back all the nasty things I've been thinking about you this game ^.^

Mara, I don't agree with your reasoning for pushing Tammy and I assumed that it was scum motivated. Naturally, I pushed you for it. The reasoning I provided was much the same that Tammy did. I agreed with her reasoning and conclusions. I pointed this out before. She explains it in her 779. We were clearly both wrong about your affiliation.

I also want to respond to this:

I haven't noticed anyone do more than handwave about the past 20 pages or so. I totally TOTALLY disagreed with his push on Maraca, and I thought he made too much of a deal about Tammy being some delicate flower whose day 1 effectiveness could be completely destroyed by a scumread. She's capbable of taking that kind of thing in stride and using it to advantage. I've seen her do it.

I think you misread my intentions because I certainly think Tammy is a big girl that is capable of using things like this to a town advantage. I merely agreed with her assessment of herself that scum would want to throw her off-balance and connected it with past experience. She elaborates on it in 779. This isn't something I deduced by myself.

@ BERT, I never agreed with your read on Geists. I thought it made you town because it came from a town place. Unless you are claiming that I should believe town are always correct, it doesn't follow that I should follow your vote on them. I think you are both town.

@ Generic, I find your stance very scummy. You seem to posturing yourself to vote me based on Mara's certainty despite earlier saying that you were townreading me. Mara and I have played one game together and we didn't interact a lot in it either. You and I played in one game where we interacted a lot. Why would you trust her read over your own?

So, far out of the people that voted me, I find MC the most townish - even without the Mason claim, I think Mara obvtowned herself. I am inclined to believe GoodMorning is the other mason as it matches with MC's read on her and other's thoughts about it. I find Casso extremely scummy. Partly because Nacho is hanging back while Thor troll-votes anyone and everyone without regard to who is town or scum or has any reads at all. Most of his posts are alignment neutral but the fundamental difference is that I believe town-Thor would play to win. As of now, it doesn't seem like they are helping town win. The others on the wagon are null besides Bert who is town. Off the wagon, I am even more confident in my read on Geists. I am getting slightly paranoid that GIF thinks ffery is scum and he has lot more experience playing with her but I evaluated their slot to the best of my ability and still read them as town. Pieguyn's latest posts also re-affirm my previous townread as do Desperado's and Korean BBQ's.

TOWN

:
1) Tammy
2) Geists
3) Desperado
4) Pieguyn
5) Bert
6) GoodMorning
7) MC Maraca

YET TO BE SORTED

:
8) zMuffinMan - Leaning town
9) KoreanBBQ - Leaning town
10) MafiaSSK - Null
11) DOMO - Null
12) BROseidon - Null
13) Norlkaz - Null
14) Cephrir - Null
15) Sakura Hana - Null
16) Ser Arthur Dayne - Null
17) Generic - Leaning scum

SCUM

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18) Stuffed Crust
19) Casso the King of Seals

I think Casso is scum likely with Stuffed Crust, and possibly a couple of people in my null pile, Generic being a person of concern at this moment. Casso's vote on me is especially suspicious because Nacho knows how to read me really well. He's played plenty of games with me, I've asked for his advice on how to improve my game both in PMs and in public etc. If that slot has a read on me, it would be Nacho's and if they had a scum read, he would attack me extensively. Nacho sitting back and letting Thor throw in a troll vote doesn't match up with his town meta. Nacho also wouldn't be indifferent to having a read on me or let Thor take the lead.

Am I recalling incorrectly or are you readlisting like

every other post

[goodmorning]

So I've had about 2 hrs internet access total the past 6 days, but that's OK because I'm here now even though I have no real idea what's going on. Sad Tammy is dead because I did her ISO AND NOW IT IS USELESS.

I got shit for daring to suggest majiffy doesn't know what he's doing.

I... I don't know what these feelings are...

Is this... Love?

I think I may have to vote you though.

GOTTA REREAD SHIT

Also may need to vote Nacho again, THIS SUCKS

My reaction is a generic reaction

OH U

Hm, DOMO vs F16... I think F16 is Town.

Just saw this, think I need to respond:

So glad you allow players like GOodmorning to coast like this. Have you isoed her posts? Since the self aware hand waving of being called suspicious for doing nothing she has fluff posted and prod doded her way along.

Had there not been a potential mason link thrown out I would put more energy into this, but just wanted to say those of you auto clearing her on this behaviour disgust me. That's not mafia, that's making up the numbers.

Sorry I have life problems? Sorry I'm alive? LOOK I AM SO SORRY I MAKE THINGS DIFFICULT FOR YOU

400 posts ago she was catching up. And yet not a single final comment on the game state, a naked V/LA and gone... yeah, im fine with feeling something is amiss there.

IT IS HARD OK

IT IS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO CATCH UP IN GAMES THAT INCREASE 20 PAGES PER DAY

LET ME ASSURE YOU THAT I AM GETTING THERE

But right now I think I want to

Vote: Muffin

I do not think I am comfortable with his posting. More on this when I (finally) finish ISOs.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Cephrir, indeed I am posting reads frequently. You are at the top of my scumlist at the moment. Thoughts?

[Cephrir]

Cephrir, indeed I am posting reads frequently. You are at the top of my scumlist at the moment. Thoughts?

My thoughts are you'll see what my thoughts are when I finish reading the daggum thread and not a moment sooner