NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Generic]

There seems to be an echo in here

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I have no scumreads. From the entire day, I developed 5 solid townreads (Tammy, Bert, Geists, Pieguyn, and Desperado). That is less progress than I hoped for but I am fairly sure that there is no scum there. I'd prefer to lynch outside that pool, preferably someone useless that just pops in from time to time to complain about how behind they are (this should put them out of their misery), and preferably someone my townreads want to lynch. I'd like to hear Tammy's updated thoughts after she gets back.

As it is, I am looking at the following possible scumreads from the above players (I crossed out the ones I won't lynch):

Tammy: MC Maraca,

Giests?

Bert:

Geists, Casso the King of Seals (Nachomamma8 + Thor665), pieguyn

, Ser Arthur Dayne, DOMO
Geists:

Pieguyn

, Sakura, StuffedCrust
Pieguyn:

Casso,

(please provide your other options, Pieguyn)
Desperado: StuffedCrust, maraca,

geists,

domo, dayne

Tammy says Dayne is town, I am leaning pretty heavily town on DOMO and he isn't a viable wagon anyway. I'll likely go with StuffedCrust. The thing that bugged me about them was 2306? I don't like the timing of it. Just shortly before, in 2273, they had me as town but quickly change to apparently agreeing with the suspicion on me. Then, they vote MC Maraca who I was pushing. I don't like it because they seem to pick a side between me and MC based on who was going down. They townread me when everyone else does and scumread me when everyone else does.

[Desperado]

vote: stuffed crust

marble's suggestion that mason claiming didn't improve towns odds of winning is not accurate

rolling mason is awesome and there are a billion ways to play it. and one very obvious benefit to claiming is forcing scum to chose between leaving conftown alive to lead town or letting town prs do their thing

i look forward to seeing someone compare/contrast reactions to the original "fake" mason claim and the real one. maybe i'll even do it myself!

[Generic]

Can we get a vote count please moderator

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

@ Empire, I'll be LA until the 31st. I'll still post but I may exceed the prod limit within this time.

[Empire]

Day 1, Votecount 56

Stuffed Crust (6)

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Sakura Hana, DOMO, Cephrir, KoreanBBQ, geists, Desperado

Casso the King of Seals (4)

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zMuffinMan, goodmorning, pieguyn, Generic

MC Maraca (3)

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Tammy, BROseidon, Stuffed Crust

Bert (1)

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Norlkaz

Sakura Hana (1)

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Casso the King of Seals

geists (1)

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Bert

F-16_Fighting_Falcon (1)

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MC Maraca

Not Voting (3)

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MafiaSSK, F-16_Fighting_Falcon, Ser Arthur Dayne

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch! Deadline is on December 26th at 3:45 PM EST or in (expired on 2013-12-26 16:44:27)

Mod Notes

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Varsoon head of Stuffed Crust V/LA until January 25th. Tammy is V/LA until the 23rd. F-16_Fighting_Falcon is V/LA until the 31st.

Prodding MafiaSSK.

[MafiaSSK]

Whee. Third prod. Promised posts before, but one will totally happen again.

[Generic]

unvote,
Vote mafiaSSK

[BROseidon]

11. BROseidon - Less coasting, but I'm a little concerned about the lack of parallel thought that we usually have when we're both town.

You mean like in Xenogears?

[BROseidon]

3. Casso the King of Seals (Nachomamma8 + Thor665)
4. MC Maraca (Cabd + Ms Marangal)
10. pieguyn SonOfZeus
16. Ser Arthur Dayne
18. DOMO

The lack of Ceph in this list is disconcerting.

Also the postings prior to this feel super hedged from you :/

[BROseidon]

I think I've also played in a game with BROseidon but he is null in this one to me.

We were in Red Wedding together but I replaced out and Cabd took over my slot.

[geists]

11. BROseidon - Less coasting, but I'm a little concerned about the lack of parallel thought that we

usually

have when we're both town.

You mean like in Xenogears?

key word bolded.

Hence "maybe town" rather than "not very town".

[MC Maraca]

I think I've also played in a game with BROseidon but he is null in this one to me.

We were in Red Wedding together but I replaced out and Cabd took over my slot.

No I didn't. I replaced killa apple.

[BROseidon]

Hi!

Guess what. I'm back and about to piss off a few people~

Mara's cool with it so whatever.

I wifomed the mason retract but

I am seriously a mason

. (Yes tammy you get to fucking get over yourself) No, not with broseidon. Who I'm partnered with should be obvious but we're not talking about it in any way shape or form today.

The real main reason I'm claiming is this, though.

We have daychat

This means scum has daychat too, most likely not as a part of a role, but merely granted by the setup mechanics. (I just checked, you don't have to have an encyptor to allow daychat in normal games) I decided my lifespan shortening a day or two is worth the info this grants; because hey, I'm pretty shit for reads this game anyways.

k

UNVOTE: MC

[BROseidon]

I think I've also played in a game with BROseidon but he is null in this one to me.

We were in Red Wedding together but I replaced out and Cabd took over my slot.

No I didn't. I replaced killa apple.

Okay then I forget who replaced me.

Oh wait I don't remember his name but he got mislynched pretty late or something

[MC Maraca]

Hi!

Guess what. I'm back and about to piss off a few people~

Mara's cool with it so whatever.

I wifomed the mason retract but

I am seriously a mason

. (Yes tammy you get to fucking get over yourself) No, not with broseidon. Who I'm partnered with should be obvious but we're not talking about it in any way shape or form today.

The real main reason I'm claiming is this, though.

We have daychat

This means scum has daychat too, most likely not as a part of a role, but merely granted by the setup mechanics. (I just checked, you don't have to have an encyptor to allow daychat in normal games) I decided my lifespan shortening a day or two is worth the info this grants; because hey, I'm pretty shit for reads this game anyways.

k

UNVOTE: MC

...insert copy paste of tammy twitching here.

[BROseidon]

I am not sold you are town. Still null at this point. You could be an actual Mason. You could be a VT fake-claiming Mason. Or you could be scum fake-claiming Mason. Regardless, Mara made a dumb move earlier in the game. If you were competent town, I'd expect you to own up to it and back off. You didn't. You continued acting as if you were in the right and OMGUSing me. That makes you (Mara) either scum or incompetent town. I am not sure which. That's why you are in my annoyance pile. Only incompetent townies tunnel mindlessly. I backed off of voting you several pages ago so if you are actually town and this ends up being TvT, it is not my fault and you better not blame me at endgame, just saying that now.

Dunno what you're going on about but I do know this post rubs me the wrong way.

It rubs me hugely the wrong way too. Getting mastin/katsuki vibes from Anything Goes from this post.

Would like Tammy's input on that, actually.

pedit: I'm pretty sure that my stance on certain claims is pretty well recorded. Day 1 mason claim doesn't get lynched on day 1. Ever.

Theory-driven play is fun!

[BROseidon]

I actually want to have the other mason out to believe the claim. No, I don't care about keeping them hidden, you're the main wagon right now and I'm hesitant to believe the claim.

No.

Second mason claims round before expected LyLo.

[MC Maraca]

Would like Tammy's input on that

She'll probably spend the rest of the day ranting at me and mara about how horrible of players we are, so you might be better off bolding that and super sizing it.

[BROseidon]

And I really want/need to know why ffery chose to hide behind you for this talk. Does she now consider herself weak to my gambits or some shit like that?

10/10 would ask.

[BROseidon]

She'll probably spend the rest of the day ranting at me and mara about how horrible of players we are, so you might be better off bolding that and super sizing it.

I'll do it if she skips it. She already thinks I'm a huge dick from the Anything Goes BS. No need to fan the flames there.

[BROseidon]

F-16: If you think i'd fakeclaim mason at this stage in the game as town, you are showing that you have clearly not ACTUALLY meta-checked the kind of gambits I pull; or you're choosing to ignore that for your own agendas. I take risks, but not the kind that might out a real set of masons were I to be VT.

I think the lack off cc to your original fake-claim would tell you that there aren't real masons which makes it an amazing fake-claim as scum or VT. Out your partner.

You've been on site for more than twice as long as I have.

So why don't you understand a simple textbook play?

[BROseidon]

I was going to make a scumteam A and a scumteam B

Why?

Was this a Nero or Gif post?

[MC Maraca]

F-16: If you think i'd fakeclaim mason at this stage in the game as town, you are showing that you have clearly not ACTUALLY meta-checked the kind of gambits I pull; or you're choosing to ignore that for your own agendas. I take risks, but not the kind that might out a real set of masons were I to be VT.

I think the lack off cc to your original fake-claim would tell you that there aren't real masons which makes it an amazing fake-claim as scum or VT. Out your partner.

You've been on site for more than twice as long as I have.

So why don't you understand a simple textbook play?

He's maintaining that he thinks I'm a fakeclaim.

[BROseidon]

Even if you think it's a fakeclaim you still run with the textbook play.