NY 168: (GAME OVER) The Mod is Dead, Fire and Ice Edition

[Garmr]

^Sorry their should be 9 points for Jklm forgot to space one.

[Matias]

Yeah. Unfortunately it's not scumposting.

Why?

[Garmr]

Garmr used rallying call to move the votes onto JKLM.

[Slandaar]

Dispelling the Dry wagon;

No one looks particularly scummy at the moment but I can see Toomai as scum.

This is the issue.

I can see Toomai as scum in certain situations but I don't think he is very scummy.

There isn't anything wrong with what Dry said as evidenced by the quote above. (not my actual opinion on Toomai it was posted to see if anyone would catch on)

Now to find scum;

I like Dry-fit and Yiley for scum.

No reasoning

No, this wagon is scum. I feel it in my bones.

Still none.

Well, I think my vote has been lost.

Regardless...

Unvote
Vote: Dry-fit

D-FIT MY BOY
YOU'RE UP FOR THE NOOSE
TELL THE DEAD QT TO WAIT UP FOR YOUR SCUMBUDDIES
THEY'LL BE IN WITH YOU DAMN SOON

It continues.

Who needs to read Bulba's

shitty wagon

posts when you've got

swag

caught scum at home?

Dodges the question.

Seriously, this is the damn wagon to be ON.

It is getting old now. Right?

TSO you didn't explain why the DryFit wagon is the wagon to be on. In your own time.

If you don't like it, then explain why.

I asked him to explain but he is just dodging like a champ.

Desperado, continue pushing. I grant you permission to do so.

If you don't like it, then explain why.

Uh, no, that isn't how this works. The Dry-Fit wagon is based on a non-issue from what I can tell.

You explain why it's such a great wagon that I must be on it!

Good people on it, sound reasoning for it, TSO stamp of approval. What more is there?

Again dodges me.

Now compare this to explaining his townread on JKLM it is just laughable. TSO is scum he is just trying to fake his town meta but it is forced and terrible. Add to all of this that he has done nothing else except what is in this post and we have our D1 scumlynch.

Town:
Garmr
Max
Bulba
Yiley
JKLM
Dry

Desp probably

Mastin meh
AA9 meh

Middler's
OGML
AH
Aptil
PV

Meh scum
Matias

Scum:
TSO
EPM
Yuni
Toomai

VOTE: TSO

[Maxous]

Screw readability, I'm feeling anti-town this afternoon.

Spoiler: Cookie if you get through all this

Your main point for JKLM-town is his aggressiveness early in the game. The problem is that I've seen him be aggressive like that as scum, so that is not enough to convince me. I don't think his play in this game shows the town motivation that you say is there, and as such, I want JKLM strung up from the highest tree.

Well you have over-simplified my read there but I can understand not seeing the town motivation I see(read:tone), I guess?

@Bulbazak

Can you show me this game where JKLM was agressive as scum pls? I'll take a quick look through it

This Dry-fit wagon feels like it's on scum, and I'll tell you why--because, contrary to the Yunichika wagon which appeared basically overnight, this one hasn't. It hasn't exploded into an L-2 wagon. Its built gradually and steadily. Furthermore, while the points against Yunichika were fairly weak and rushed (making the wagon on her unwarranted), the points against Dry-fit feel like they're more solid and grounded in reality.

You know as well as I that the speed of a wagon means nothing. Stop pushing surface crap Mastin. I know you're better than this as town.

The best part is that Mastin is

wrong

about the wagon analysis..it did'nt build 'gradually and steadly' at all - it soared quickly into 6 votes and then completely stalled dead for a while.
At best this is a very lazy approach to push Dry-Fit.

Dry-fit's as an excuse to get on a wagon, possibly specifically with Maxous. I think that's suspicious at best.

hohoho
quite the scummy passive aggressive pot-shot there.
Based on very little.

I feel like my Yuni vote is delicious, but want more torque on Dry-fit.

Vote: Dry-fit

@PeregrineV

Why is Dry-Fit scum again?

lot of free coasting going on with this wagon

Now, though, I'm a little worried with your argument about JKLM.

Okay, stahp

@YuniChikako:

Why are you not voting JKLM if he is such scummy-scum that two people are scummy

simply for defending him

?

Reading this thread now .

I suck at self motivating right now so I'm just gonna blatantly sheep Mastin until further notice.

Unvote, Vote: Dry-fit

Are you seriously going to do that throughout this game ?

Impressive in it's own way.

@Aptil

- I would like you to address #160 pwease?
Also while you are at it, tell me all about JKLM and Dry-Fit.

Go ahead and lynch me. This is probably the worst game I've played on site.

That AtE...

Agreed.

VOTE: dry fit

Wow.
Way to make me regret defending you

Unvote

Vote: JKLM

Little original thought or effort, then jumps on the end of the wagon because...something about laziness? And sheeping "this is AtE" from someone who isn't actually on the wagon. I don't like that at all.

uhhh
how is jumping on mid-way through and sheeping somebody that happens to be on the wagon so much more town???

Hurm, I disagree with Slandaar being scum but I feel like Evil-Pacman is town with #376

Bulba you are tragically bad at reading me.

Yeah I'm always useless day 1 so I can't blame you all too much for voting me

I've really got nothing much to say. I hate day 1.

Wow (x2)
AtE after voting somebody for using AtE.
I don't feel nearly as good about you anymore dood.

Get ready. He's scum this game.

Ah, Bulbazak.

Pull this stunt as town, shame on you.

Pull this stunt as scum and get away with it, shame on me.

Here's a notice for you: Sheeping mastin is a very bad idea this game. He's offered very few reads, hasn't responded to any of the things I've addressed to him even though I'm apparently his top priority, and after his catchup offers nothing but shitty wagon analysis.

A part of me wonders if Dry-fit and Bulbazak are on the scumteam and the scumteams have daytalk, with them legitimately thinking I'm scum. That part of me, however, is called "my ego", and for the sake of retaining some semblance of humbleness, I'm forced to nix that theory.

So bulbazak calls you scum and you respond by linking him with Dry-Fit as scumbuddies with the connection of them both calling you scum? (oh but not really because look I have !)
lawl, bullshit.

Also, I ran through my iso looking for coherent scumreads. This is what I came up with:

Sup Mastin, as a fun little sidequest I decided to look through your ISO myself to find coherent scumreads you have given.
I found one - on Matias.
once you trim down the massive amount of fat from your posting - there is very little meaty substance to chew on.

@Mastin2

: Are you going to explain why Dry-Fit is scum this side of 2014?

4.Does a hypocritical vote on to the largest wagon at the time which he made a counter wagon for

@Garmr:

Explain point 4 to me..you talking about his vote on Yuni?
Actually point 8 as well..do you have a meta of JKLM where he *DOES* sheep other people as scum (as opposed to him not doing so as town)

for a bit more clarity:

T S O - going nullish, not explaining Dry-Fit scum is getting tiresome and little other commentary. #281 comes across as towny though
Bulbazak - seems town sans dodgy vote on JKLM(early push was weak)
Antihero (Lawrencelot) - ??
Matias - leaning scum
Desperado - town I think. Only hard-pusher of Dry-Fit. Putting his neck on the line.
evilpacman18 *- leaning town
JKLM - not so sure atm
OhGodMyLife *- ??
mastin2 - leaning scum. Bad Dry-fit push, bad attack on Bulba and way too much fluff. Memories of Town!Mastin being more purposeful and direct with his posting.
PeregrineV *- felt like he was townish earlier but bad dry-fit vote.
Garmr - town
aptil - pfft ??
YuniChikako - town
ArcAngel9 *- ??
Slandaar - town
Yiley - town-ish? he should post thoughts on something.
Toomai - scummy
Dry-fit - idk?

[Yiley]

I think you are trying to discourage people from reading that meaty substance in that post.

[Garmr]

@ Maxous
Here's your answers.
Point 4-yep the wagon of yuni is the one I am referring to.
point 8-no this would be a first but other problems arrive from his meta.
Extra evidence from his meta
Also JKLM hates being scum and he hasn't shown the same enthusiasm in this game as others.

I literally went in to this game (because I hate scum so much) dive bombing and tunneling so had that I hoped I'd e read as VI (it's happened before and it's a great position to be in) or it would distance Skelda from me being my partner. I would have had to go thru with a successful night kill to eliminate the scum teams to one and two but it could have happened.

What really happened was life and me sucking at mafia.

I believe his going to try this approach again with his latest activity.

Also he seems to downgrade himself as scum

I'm a very wishy washy person. You could even see that in the current game I'm playing. This vote is mostly for pressure for now.

Oh
I see. As I've said before its a possibility that he's just not aware that its a BAD thing to overstate your fence sitting. He proceeds to EVEN more repeat his indicisiveness. I wouldn't put it off as GURANTEED scum but it IS something.

I think that's all basically. I also don't like like kinda that he literally is saying he's not really putting his vote towards his own opinion, it rubs me wrong.


But due to EVERYTHING so far he'd be null, scumish as of recently,
But historically so far he leans town.

P edit: it came off as a slight attack but yeah stupid me it really isn't when you read it better, I wasn't payin attention because I was about I go in to your read.

While town Jklm

If that was true I would have gone with Micc, and not taken forever to just get an "easy lynch."

Don't try and divert attention to me, scum.

He also takes an offensive scum approach early game as well similar to this and most of the time jumping on a counterwagon at the start(That may be coincidental through).

I can go on

about his scum meta being near exact to this game.

and I could draw even more posts. But it's obvious that if someone with little meta-diving experience like me could draw this much out of just two of his scum games then someone like empire or the like would easily be able to pin him as scum.

JKLM IS THE WAGON TO BE ON.

[T S O]

Yo, was V/LA, re-reading.

Slandaar's attempt at dispelling the Dry-fit wagon is him quoting an ISO of me being lazy as fuck. If he wants to assume I'm that bad as scum, he can but he's wrong.

[Bulbazak]

@Bulbazak

Can you show me this game where JKLM was agressive as scum pls? I'll take a quick look through it

Now that it's finished, absolutely: The Legend of Zelda: Defense of Hyrule. Watch closely how aggressively JKLM goes after Waynegg d1.

Also, where's my cookie?

[aptil]

The 3-vote Bulb wagon?

Do you understand the Yuni wagon, because it seems you do by inference. If you do, please explain it.

I have already stated that post#68 is weird .

fos:

you though.
Regarding Bulba you were commenting on the

people on his wagon

and did'nt comment on bulba himself.
PV asks you to explain the Yuni wagon and you comment on

Yuni

herself and not the people voting her.
Why the difference of attitude between the two wagons?

Well the difference is not there . I understood the votes on yuni wagon . So i did not feel necessary to point to every vote and say i got this and got that .
Regarding the people voting Bulba , i found the reasons odd so i was trying to understand the voting pattern there .
So when PV asked if i understood the yuni wagon , i pointed to the post which was one of the main reasons people going that way .

[Slandaar]

Slandaar's attempt at dispelling the Dry-fit wagon is him quoting an ISO of me being lazy as fuck.

Not remotely true.

I nullified the main argument then showed who is scum on the wagon (you).

If he wants to assume I'm that bad as scum, he can but he's wrong.

I assume you will be explaining your read soon?

[Toomai]

Garmr and Slandaar combined have convinced me that JKLM is a better vote today than Dry-fit.

And TSO got confused by 403 supposedly, which mirrors the ignorance of things being multiball previously. I'm feeing both together makes him feel a bit scummier.

[Maxous]

eh, fine

unvote, vote: JKLM

I under-estimated his scumplay.

I literally went in to this game (because I hate scum so much) dive bombing and tunneling so had that I hoped I'd e read as VI (it's happened before and it's a great position to be in)

This I found to be the most interesting quote as it mirrors his attempt at a get-out-of-jail-free-card in #382 when he realised he messed up voting Dry-Fit.
Given #383 and the awful Dry-Fit vote (why was the appeal to emotion scummy?), I'm fine with this.

Well the difference is not there . I understood the votes on yuni wagon . So i did not feel necessary to point to every vote and say i got this and got that .
Regarding the people voting Bulba , i found the reasons odd so i was trying to understand the voting pattern there .
So when PV asked if i understood the yuni wagon , i pointed to the post which was one of the main reasons people going that way .

ok.
Now can you tell me some opinions on Dry-Fit and JKLM

please

I can't read you as obv-town when you won't share your thoughts.

[Maxous]

Also, where's my cookie?

The cookie is a lie :S

[Yiley]

I'm tempted to lynch all liars buts df is much scummier :/

[Garmr]

who would the liar be Yiley?

[Garmr]

Just got the joke damn I am slow today.

[Yiley]

It was pretty bad though soooooooo

[Garmr]

What are your thoughts on the Jklm wagon Yiley.

[Yiley]

I don't know it seems to have a good foundation and I think most on there are town.

[PeregrineV]

@PeregrineV

Why is Dry-Fit scum again?

1. Lack of response to interogative

Wanna know who's really coasting this game? PeregrineV. But that's kind of always the case.

Gotta love that the only case made against me was Desperado's and he hasn't responded to my criticisms of it at all.

You call this coasting in 13 pages over a weekend?

Not hardly.

It's funny that you are calling out Toomai when he is looking at your wagon trying to gain information from it.

What information have you gained from your wagon?

2. Appeal to Emotion, lack of addressing votes or voters on his wagon ----> (365)

I was down to lynch Dry-fit when the wagon started but 269 makes him seem town to me. He's not too concerned with his own survival to still scumhunt.

Anyway I'm caught up finally.

Do you think his lack of defense is related in any way to the fact he doesn't have one?

3. Attack on OhGodMyLife who appears to be calling both Toomai and Dry-fit scummy & attampted redirection towards JKLM (391)

Hah, site is back up!

I feel like my Yuni vote is delicious, but want more torque on Dry-fit.

Vote: Dry-fit

All in all, a very underwhelming response, as were most of his 10 posts.
Decided to not let him lie low until the heat wears off.

[ElectricSavages]

Votecount 1.13

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Dry - Fit[8]

-Desperado, Matias, Yiley, mastin2, T S O, OhGodMyLife, PeregrineV, JKLM

JKLM [5]

- Bulbazak, Garmr, Toomai, evilpacman18, Maxous

Toomai [2]

- Dry-fit

Bulbazak [1]

- ArcAngel9

Desperado [1]

- aptil

Maxous [1]

- Yunichikawowwow

TSO [1]

- Slandaar

Not Voting [1]

- Antihero

With 19 alive, it takes

10[/i]

votes to lynch.

Deadline is on the 23^rd of December 2013 at 10am GMT ((expired on 2013-12-23 10:00:00))

V/LA

JacobSavage - 11^th to 16^th Dec

[Yiley]

Is antihero a double voter?

[PeregrineV]

Is antihero a double voter?

Only when he is "Not voting".

[Yiley]

Hey let's lynch this not voting fellow he is scummy.