NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Stuffed Crust]

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Not so Town:

pieguyn - reeks of the town pieguyn I remember, but his vote patterns are awkward.
Sakura Hana - Pretty scummy due to votes, interaction, lurkdom, etc.
MC Maraca (Cabd + Ms Marangal) - Feels scum. Hung up on the reads thing.
KoreanBBQ (GuyInFreezer + Nero Cain) - Has taken too much of a back seat. GiF hasn't danced with me yet. Probably scum.
Desperado - Lacks Desperation, reeks of scum-desp, weird voting patterns.

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Hey, check this out, where I'm still calling BBQ scum because I still believe he's scum.
You know who cherry-picks? Probably everyone, but you're doing it here in a way that's obvious fallacious.



As for your voting patterns, it's weird that you're sheeping each and every one of the fat wagons.

[Stuffed Crust]

Desp, you seem pretty upset with my vote on you.

It's only one little vote.

You need 11 to die.

Why are you so angry?

-V

[BROseidon]

And why would the optimal response from town who caught the crumb be any different? Wouldn't they also townread the two players for other reasons and leave it be? It is suboptimal to say anything about the crumb. What exactly do you mean "phone in on it?"

Respond the way ffery did, which is to acknowledge it subtly enough that the message would slip through only to me/Cabd/other townies in the know.

You're talking to the guy who used a cross-game reference to slip a large amount of information about an incredibly relevant setup issue to one person in a 19 person game. There are ways of doing this sort of thing in a way that's obfuscated enough that most people won't pick up on it.

[Desperado]

As for your voting patterns, it's weird that you're sheeping each and every one of the fat wagons.

oh am i?

which ones did i sheep?

last i checked i was 2nd on you and 2nd on domo and i haven't voted anyone else this game

[BROseidon]

Why is everyone voting this

I just

Don't

Understand

I'm still voting on a gut read that I still haven't gone back to parse.

Everyone else is voting based on reactions from my push.

[Empire]

Day 1, Votecount 34

Stuffed Crust (5)

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Cephrir, KoreanBBQ, Sakura Hana, DOMO, Desperado

DOMO (3)

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BROseidon, Generic, pieguyn

KoreanBBQ (3)

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MafiaSSK, Casso the King of Seals, roflcopter

Desperado (1)

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Stuffed Crust

roflcopter (1)

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F-16_Fighting_Falcon

MC Maraca (1)

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pitoli

Generic (1)

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goodmorning

Not Voting (5)

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zMuffinMan, MC Maraca, Brian Skies, Tammy, geists

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch! Deadline is on December 20th at 3:45 PM EST or in (expired on 2013-12-20 16:44:27)

Mod Notes

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Ms Marangal head of MC Maraca is V/LA for a week. Sakura Hana is V/LA until Monday. KoreanBBQ are V/LA until Sunday.

[Stuffed Crust]

@BRO: I'm so dense I'd never pick anything up. :/


Anyway,
I'm pretty confident in this one:

VOTE: Desperado

[Cephrir]

Cephrir why you noticed his 180, but you didnt notice my vote going from sheeping SC to voting him?

I did notice that, but you're crazy, so.

On the other, DOMO feels really genuine in response.

Gurl lookit dat 180

Why is this suspicious? StuffedCrust's last few posts feel pretty townish to me including the 180. Why are scum more likely to do 180s? Is there anything about this particular 180 you found more likely to come from town than scum?

It was really sudden for me. Plus he suddenly gave me a pass too for no reason. idgi

But why is there scum motivation in making sudden 180s? I feel that town are likely to do it too. I've been accused as town more than once for having sudden, sometimes jarring switches in reads and been annoyed at having to explain them. It isn't something I find scummy at all though it looks scummy on the surface.

THis is a thing that happens. But it usually doesn't come RIGHT AFTER "omgomg x is so scum" and be based on posts you've already seen long before the epiphany.

MafiaSSK - Has dropped off the face of the planet. Town due to wagon interaction (his wagon feels scum-motivated, etc)

And yet you're now townreading the wagon, aren't you? I forget who was there besides me and Domo but =/

My wagon is so scum motivated it is painful.

Domo, me, and two others are voting you when you say this, and you just townread the two of this? I forget who the other 2 are.

It's like none of you have ever experienced a mafia epiphany.

Sure I have, but I don't think this is how it happens. And it wasn't even presented like an epiphany. THere wasn't really any acknowledgement in the initial post that he'd been really rethinking his position or anything, DOmo just suddenly became town and I did too.

I don't really give a damn about looking town

THis does not match your behavior today.

[Desperado]

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Not so Town:

pieguyn - reeks of the town pieguyn I remember, but his vote patterns are awkward.
Sakura Hana - Pretty scummy due to votes, interaction, lurkdom, etc.
MC Maraca (Cabd + Ms Marangal) - Feels scum. Hung up on the reads thing.
KoreanBBQ (GuyInFreezer + Nero Cain) - Has taken too much of a back seat. GiF hasn't danced with me yet. Probably scum.
Desperado - Lacks Desperation, reeks of scum-desp, weird voting patterns.

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Hey, check this out, where I'm still calling BBQ scum because I still believe he's scum.
You know who cherry-picks? Probably everyone, but you're doing it here in a way that's obvious fallacious.
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that's cool but ssk or korean scum was the first stance you took all game. why did you forget about it and then have to retcon him back in later?

[Desperado]

i also challenged you to justify how this "reeks of scum-desp" i see you ignored that

i don't blame you

[Stuffed Crust]

As for your voting patterns, it's weird that you're sheeping each and every one of the fat wagons.

oh am i?

which ones did i sheep?

last i checked i was 2nd on you and 2nd on domo and i haven't voted anyone else this game

All of 'em.
Welcome back to my wagon, enjoy your stay.


I didn't forget about it, silly. When giving the pool of players I'd like to see pressure/wagons for, I didn't include BBQ because I've already got BBQ as a solid scum read. Also, BBQ's pretty absent, so a wagon/pressure wouldn't garner much immediately.

[Desperado]

"all of 'em?"

is that your way of saying "wow you're right that thing i just accused you of was totally bullshit, sorry?"

[BROseidon]

don't like any of the top three wagons.

roflcopter,

pitoli

and Brian are all three better votes than those three.

Has pitoli posted anything?

I only remember that she's in the game because there's this push on her for some reason that I can't understand because I don't remember her as having posted anything.

[Sakura Hana]

Then, since if everyone agrees that I'm absurd/retarded/nonsense/whatever, then they can simultaneously ignore anything I've done all game, which is also super-convenient for scum, as I tend to actually catch scum early.

Oh look and here's the part where Varsoon's getting ready to use his "I was acting like a VI" card.

[Stuffed Crust]

i also challenged you to justify how this "reeks of scum-desp" i see you ignored that

i don't blame you

Well you see sometimes something smells really bad, and the smell is really obvious. The verb typically used to indicate that is 'reeks'.
I feel like you're scummy and it's obvious. I smelled it with my scum-sniffer. It reeked of scum-desperado.
It's okay, like, sometimes people use weird imagery, I know.
I'm about to go get food.
What this means is that I'm going to leave my computer, walk to a place that sells food, buy the food from them, and then eat it.
I know, words can be tricky.

[Stuffed Crust]

Then, since if everyone agrees that I'm absurd/retarded/nonsense/whatever, then they can simultaneously ignore anything I've done all game, which is also super-convenient for scum, as I tend to actually catch scum early.

Oh look and here's the part where Varsoon's getting ready to use his "I was acting like a VI" card.

Not really?
I did that in one scum game, yo.
One.
And you won anyway, so why so bitter?

[Stuffed Crust]

"all of 'em?"

is that your way of saying "wow you're right that thing i just accused you of was totally bullshit, sorry?"

Yup, you're right and I'm full of shit.

They don't call me the scatman for nothing.

[Cephrir]

This is something I often end up being wrong about, but it always bothers me when someone is ATEing and then stops without much time passing in between. (this is unrelated to the below)

i also challenged you to justify how this "reeks of scum-desp" i see you ignored that

i don't blame you

Well you see sometimes something smells really bad, and the smell is really obvious. The verb typically used to indicate that is 'reeks'.
I feel like you're scummy and it's obvious. I smelled it with my scum-sniffer. It reeked of scum-desperado.
It's okay, like, sometimes people use weird imagery, I know.
I'm about to go get food.
What this means is that I'm going to leave my computer, walk to a place that sells food, buy the food from them, and then eat it.
I know, words can be tricky.

Sooooo you said that on no meta basis whatsoever? lolk

[Stuffed Crust]

I've played a few games with Desperado, so yeah, there's some meta basis.

Not that it matters?

[Stuffed Crust]

CEPHRIR WHY DO YOU KEEP TRYING TO SHUT ME UP OR DISENFRANCHISE MY VOICE EVERY TIME I WRITE SOMETHING IN REGARDS TO OTHER PLAYERS WHO I AM PUSHING?
ITS BUGGING ME.

[Desperado]

I've played a few games with Desperado, so yeah, there's some meta basis.

Not that it matters?

[BROseidon]

Mafia is srs bsns in a player list like this. Step up or go home, son.

You know it's a srs bsns player list when I'm not calling everyone morons every other post.

[BROseidon]

EBWOP:
Add Sakura to the people I'm suspicious of.
If I had to make a scum-pool now, though?

Pieguyn,
Sakura,
Desperado,
Casso.

Feels right to me.

Vote: Stuffed Crust

what happened to you being sure that one of Korean/SSK was scum Varsoon?

you know who likes to create arbitrary dichotomies? scum.

what's weird about my voting pattern?

and you saying this reeks of scum-desp is seriously the fucking dumbest thing you have ever said. justify it

Desp did you role scum?

[Desperado]

nope

[Stuffed Crust]

Then why give me flac for it? Putr mac on the line, he has some splaining to do.

Mac's been gone for awhile now. D:

I was more concerned about your reads-list as a whole.

-V

News to me. His posting everywhere else on site says otherwise. Try again.

quite a strong statement to make considering in the past day and a half or so, I've made 2 phone posts and 2 drunk posts? where did this false accusation come from?