NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Empire]

Day 1, Votecount 30

DOMO (4)

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BROseidon, Desperado, Sakura Hana, Stuffed Crust

KoreanBBQ (4)

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MafiaSSK, Casso the King of Seals, Generic, roflcopter

Stuffed Crust (3)

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pieguyn, Cephrir, KoreanBBQ

Desperado (1)

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DOMO

Casso the King of Seals (1)

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geists

roflcopter (1)

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F-16_Fighting_Falcon

MC Maraca (1)

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pitoli

Generic (1)

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goodmorning

Not Voting (4)

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zMuffinMan, MC Maraca, Brian Skies, Tammy

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch! Deadline is on December 20th at 3:45 PM EST or in (expired on 2013-12-20 16:44:27)

Mod Notes

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Ms Marangal head of MC Maraca is V/LA for a week. Sakura Hana is V/LA until Monday. pieguyn is V/LA until Friday.

[goodmorning]

@VARSOON:

(that was the MAC, this is the SOON)

MC Maraca:

Why does your reads-list seem like a consensus more than anything to me? It doesn't sit right, and I don't feel like you're taking any risks with any of your reads. It bugs me.

-V

What is Town's job when trying to read people, taking risks or being right?

Sometimes the people who look scummy... are Scum. WHAT A THOUGHT

[Cephrir]

Do I need to try building a damn case or something

That never works but like

Could we please just sheep me, like, once in my life?

[geists]

I really want to talk to GiF about now.

[Stuffed Crust]

@GOODMORNING:

I'd prefer people to be right. I don't think MC Maraca is right--I feel that they're presenting a summary of how players feel about others in general.

Cephrir, that's not a very strong way to broker your wagon on me.
B-sides, I'm town, and you'd be really sad if I was gone.
Unless, of course, you're scum.
In which case, you're just playing to your win condition and that's OK!

P-EDIT:
I do too.

-V

[Cephrir]

Cephrir, that's not a very strong way to broker your wagon on me.

I've never been any good at this, so bear with me mmk

B-sides, I'm town, and you'd be really sad if I was gone.

lol

[Stuffed Crust]

See, I'm making you laugh already, I got da jokes.
You don't want to waste a lynch on a townie who has da jokes.

-V

[Generic]

Look, I strongly disagree that voting for someone that I feel is insincere is bad.

generic - I don't care if you stop reading me as town.

Not bothered about addressing my concerns about over awareness of the semantics?

How about now?

vote domo

I'm now reading you btw stuffed crust, your responses on the peripheral are god awful.

[Generic]

*iso reading you stuffed crust

[geists]

Laptop died and I'm posting on a crappy netbook so this is not going to be as detailed as I'd otherwise make it.

At the time when Nati and I first started to feel suspicious of Nacho it was for a bunch of reasons, none of which was really a clincher but together make a constellation that we feel is trouble.

We don't like how he apparently missed a ton of crumbs

We don't like how he seems to be currying favor with players rather than sorting them

We don't like the pitoli vote and especially don't like its timing. It came off like he was trying to deflect attention after we first went after him.

We don't like how he tried to push the non-aggression pact on us.

We don't like the whole tone of the exchange with Brian. The whole tone of that sounded off.

And we found Thor's posts pretty damn close to null content.

And finally, we don't like that when we asked him what he thought about SSK, he said that he was thinking about moving his vote there if Thor agrees. That was off for two reasons: the assumption that we were scumreading, not trying to sort SSK, and because he deferred the decision waiting for a catch up. That's not something he typically does as a hydra.

[Stuffed Crust]

I know, I'm terrible, we got over that awhile ago.

-V

[Casso the King of Seals]

OK HERE GOES THE CATCHUP~~~

bro is scum guys let's go!

IF bro is scum, he's playing nothing like his 165 or xenoblade self. He's also put himself into a position where he's dead meat if he's scum.

Can you explain what you mean here?

So my brain feels like its half broken so
How many posts of SC was Varsoon?
If there was more than one of his posts, im voting him.

stop pretending like you didn't know it was me, and not varsoon.

generic is town i think. I'm happy to say that for now. #294 sealed it for me.

@Casso

- thor in particular here, why did you townread us early on in 306?

I also didn't have a good townread on BRO until about two pages ago. What do you think of that?

I think it's strange given your #335. whats up with that?

this is all i can manage because this fucking computer is horrendously slow. like it's being run by fucking hamsters.

this was Mac. have a nice day. x

Thor townread you by #305 because he felt you were the only person to do something significant in the game so far because you had a suspect, called him scum, and pushed it. No one else did that by that point in the game.

My #335 was probably expressing concern with how quickly BRO had crept up in a couple of townreads, but I didn't see anything big in BRO ISO until he said he had no idea what he was doing. That seemed unlikely based on NY whatever and touhou.

[Casso the King of Seals]

I panicked hard because I thought I didn't get a birdie. 7 in a row!

[Casso the King of Seals]

I'm feeling pretty nervous, myself, for someone who's pretty happy with my townbloc so far.

I don't like the BBQ wagon. I don't like Nacho. We're 40 pages in and he doesn't know who he wants to push instead.

I don't think it's unreasonable for me to be directionless at this point in the game. There has been a lot of town pieces of the game, but not a lot of missteps by scum. Its also taken a while for the town block to actually get formed this game.

[Casso the King of Seals]

so how do you all like the chance zmuffin inadvertently scumslipped while trying to troll me?

bc I've still been thinking about this

depends if you're town

and how if you think about it long enough it makes no sense at all if zmuffin is really town. if he's town then it'll be easier for me if I townread him regardless of if I'm town or scum. what the hell

I don't know what he was trying to say with that but I'm not exactly optimistic about catching muffin scum based on a scum slip.

[Casso the King of Seals]

You're closer to naive than crazy.

This implies that you picked up on the same thing that I did and think it's fake.

Why would scum-cabd open the way he did. There's enough of us here that more than one or two of us would catch what he did, so if he's scum faking it would be glaringly obvious later.

I didn't actually catch onto the same thing as you did, it seems.

[Casso the King of Seals]

vote sakura

I had the opposite reaction to this.

[Casso the King of Seals]

I was feeling uncomfortable with cephrir based on the confidence in his stuffed crust push until I found this post.

Scum would feel good about planting a vote on a townie, especially when said townie has exposed them but isn't credible enough to get others to listen.
That way, when I'm lynched, everyone can write me off, and scum gets a free pass into the future.
That's why scum would push my lynch and feel confident in it.
Makes plenty of sense.

-V

Even if I was scum, you wouldn't have exposed shit. All you've done is OMGUS me.

Oh, I always feel good about my votes on town when I'm scum, but such is not the case, and I feel far better about voting scum as town. Because it's harder and I rarely do it. It's a unique experience for me! Especially if I'm there for the catching rather than jumping on later. DOn't think that's actually ever happened.

VOTE: sc

We should probably lynch this today

Whaddya know, Cephrir is bandwagon hopping.

Whaddaya know, SSK is posturing to suspect me later.

[DOMO]

How about now? vote domo

Oh no I shit myself again. Stoppit guys.

[DOMO]

vote sakura

I had the opposite reaction to this.

Yeah that vote was not really serious, read it in context with sakura's post before. Note that my vote moved quickly after this post.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Varsoon what the hell

what happened to all your excitement about wanting to play more games with me sometime? you see I'm in this game and the only thing you have to say in response is it's really cute to see me voting you again? that seems really sketchy

you've made your point that I might be scum because of lack of activity compared to others, countered it by saying it's actually the same. are we still scum despite your findings?

your activity is the same but Varsoon's still wasn't. while your activity being the same counters my point about your activity, I still think it's kinda telling how Varsoon was posting elsewhere but not in here.

vote:SC

I assume this is GIF right

Probably not.

Perot: good!

[DOMO]

Hurry up and get to ffery's recent post you slow bastard, I'm waiting so I can decide between you and stuffed crust.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Town:

1. Tammy - More mara's read than mine.
2. geists (fferyllt + Natirasha) -mostly cabd head; you should be ashamed I beat you to a reads list.
4. MC Maraca (Cabd + Ms Marangal) oh hey these scumfucks snuck into my townblock?
13. KoreanBBQ (GuyInFreezer + Nero Cain) - mara's read
11. BROseidon - I have my reasons
10. pieguyn - you're not nearly as innocent child status as i'd like though
19. Cephrir - Mara has him down as super duper town
18. DOMO - Meta; being scum with him in 165

Meh:

6. Generic- not as obvtown as I would have hoped, will make mara sort later
9. Stuffed Crust (Mac + Varsoon) - Half of varsoon's shit has pinged me, I dunno.
8. MafiaSSK - the higher level of activity here as opposed to his past town games makes me wonder things.
15. Sakura Hana - Do something super town so I can put you up a rank please.
17. zMuffinMan- I can't read you for shit so I guess I'll just have to wait and see; nothing jumps out so far.

Not so Town:

3. Casso the King of Seals (Nachomamma8 + Thor665) - Mara disagrees slightly
12. Brian Skies - The dismal amount of effort you're bringing here scares me.
20. Desperado - I'm not seeing the OMG PASSION town desp brings to games. I see "meh make a few posts" then coasting from the Atlantic to the Pacific
5. F-16_Fighting_Falcon - the lack of effort here is surprising me and actually kind of making me sad, worried the fuck out of me

In this game?

7. roflcopter - Bitching about large amounts of posts when that's how some players read each other won't get you anywhere
14. goodmorning - START DOING SHIT LIKE OMG
16. pitoli - SEE GOODMORNING

...?

[DOMO]

Do we really have to post walls and put a question mark up to make it look like you're scumhunting? This is bullshit.

I like ffery's post on casso, and this flurry of activity does not look like town trying to catch up, it looks like someone trying to present themself as a busy townie.

vote casso

I'm feeling better about ffery right now, and a casso scumflip would cement that.

[Cephrir]

I'm not feeling great about Casso either at present, but my current vote is superior.