In post 992, penguin_alien wrote:I'm not getting 'scum' from the shos ISO. Reading through his posts, I find myself nodding along.
Yeah, that's because they're all catchups and he's basically surface reading and repeating what everybody else has already thought. The fact that you came
even later
to the party does not make his posts good, nor does it make them hard for scum to have written out.
Refuted.
In post 992, penguin_alien wrote:Wisdom looks town, mostly because it seems like he can't help himself as town from tunneling, being fixated on his reads, and generally not changing his game overmuch. Not what I saw from scum-Wisdom in Newbie 1448.
However, he said he was changing his playstyle for this game. Hm, Wis-scum playing like Wis-town? That'd be a change, eh?
But let me be a little more concrete here--
you
certainly aren't-- just because Wisdom is doing inherently scummy things, and its in his meta to do scummy things, does not mean Wisdom is town. Same thing with Malakittens (I'm pretty sure it was her who said that (We've played together in the past)). Same thing, this game, with mollie (who says, "people who don't know my meta scumread me all the time").
Refuted.
Oh, so town? Seems to me that town, being the uninformed majority,
needs
to be both paranoid, and suspicious.
But I'm reading that wrong. You don't mean suspicious of
other players
, you mean that you are suspicious of
him
, right? Why?
In post 992, penguin_alien wrote:Not looking for the easy buddy with shos, and he's not afraid to tangle with Nacho. His refutation of the 'Mala goes and looks up Actor to see if that could be MattP's role' supposed town tell is in line with my opinion as well.
...ok, I understood you right the first time, I guess. I rescind my snark pertaining to this portion of the wall.
In post 992, penguin_alien wrote:Whiskers is town. Sorry, but scum don't see someone with an emotional playstyle and say, 'gee, let's push that person's buttons for funsies.'
What? Why wouldn't they? That's incredibly fun (see also: trolling, griefing), and when you're a pretty-much-unanimous townread (whiskers seems to be) what would stop you?
Refuted.
In post 992, penguin_alien wrote:AA9 is saying all the town-AA9 things, but in a game like this where she knows a decent number of people, I'd expect the interactive part of her style to be more front-and-center. Heaven knows I get being behind, but it's a drastic falloff. On the other hand, her defensiveness about it is townish, so I'd let it slide pending further info.
I don't recall any defensiveness about it. In fact,
I just looked up his ISO. you
must
be referring to
this post, because in all ten of his posts, this is the only one where he's defensive, and the only one where he's responding to somebody calling him out on being behind.
So... wtf are you on about, P_A?
Refuted.
In post 992, penguin_alien wrote:Desperado's willing to engage with mollie over the weak Whiskers scum read and tells Wisdom off. I disagree about shos, but I think he has a point with mollie.
It's interesting-- I know I'm reading this way later than you wrote it. But in the last couple of pages, three or four other people have told mollie off over the weak whiskers scum read.
Err, I'm blending points.
Nevermind, I'm just going to move on here.
In post 992, penguin_alien wrote:Mala thinking that MattP would indicate his role so early on looks like hopeful scum. I don't think that Mala would pull any fake emotional stuff, so I think her frustration with Wisdom is genuine.
You're kidding, right? I'm pretty sure Mala uses AtE consistently and without remorse.
Also, Mala thinking outside the box is null, at worst, and town, at best. Look, there's this stupid thing that we do here in the game of mafia, where we sometimes thing that Scum is playing brilliantly, and if you are playing brilliantly, you must be scum. No. Players play brilliantly, as town
or
scum. When you can do something brilliant as scum, why
wouldn't
you want to do it as town?
Also, if she was correct, and Matt could only place the hammering vote on a wagon, then yes, it's something that Matt would have crumbed early on.
Seems easy enough to attack so far. But I haven't really moved into the meat of the thing, have I-- the Mala-case.
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I also think Nacho is scum, he cheated me on the other game. lets lynch him first. Wisdom can wait.