NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[geists]

Specifically I'm seeing parallels with how in Buzzword you jumped on the weakness in orcinus' entrance and encouraged/supported others' reads. At least with orcinus it was a genuinely off entrance. Brian's initial posts almost always look strained and uncomfortable.

[Cephrir]

I don't feel like there really is that much anti-Brian sentiment flying around?

If you want me to step out of your line of questioning, just say the word.

[Cephrir]

Cephir, pray tell what you didn't like from our slot.

The placement of your early votes for one.

Also, as absurd as it sounds, post 37 I think it was?

[Casso the King of Seals]

I liked Mara's early push on Cephrir. The target in and of itself isn't really that special, but the way she went about it seemed good to me (mostly the whole gearing up for a push and then completely letting it go part, that felt nice). So generic, if you're getting an early townread on Mara based on her initial posting, we're probably in agreement.

[geists]

I don't feel like there really is that much anti-Brian sentiment flying around?

If you want me to step out of your line of questioning, just say the word.

Give me some time to work through it. I may be off base, but Nati also thinks Nacho is looking scummy.

[geists]

I liked Mara's early push on Cephrir. The target in and of itself isn't really that special, but the way she went about it seemed good to me (mostly the whole gearing up for a push and then completely letting it go part, that felt nice). So generic, if you're getting an early townread on Mara based on her initial posting, we're probably in agreement.

You actually need mara's posts to read them?

[Casso the King of Seals]

Specifically I'm seeing parallels with how in Buzzword you jumped on the weakness in orcinus' entrance and encouraged/supported others' reads. At least with orcinus it was a genuinely off entrance. Brian's initial posts almost always look strained and uncomfortable.

I don't think Brian has a tendency to look weak early game. I thought there was clear motivation in F-16s opening to stay alive to sort out Nacho-scum, and I thought that it was strange Brian immediately attacked that, especially considering the mentor mentee game that recently ended which proves F-16 can read me pretty competently.

[Casso the King of Seals]

I liked Mara's early push on Cephrir. The target in and of itself isn't really that special, but the way she went about it seemed good to me (mostly the whole gearing up for a push and then completely letting it go part, that felt nice). So generic, if you're getting an early townread on Mara based on her initial posting, we're probably in agreement.

You actually need mara's posts to read them?

Yes? Cabd forming a town block with himself in the center early game doesn't exactly seem like something that's unlikely to be coming from Cabd-scum. Why do you disagree?

[Casso the King of Seals]

I also didn't have a good townread on BRO until about two pages ago. What do you think of that?

[Cephrir]

Brian Skies is town.
geists is town.
F16 is town.
Generic is town.

Discuss.

Why geists and Brian town at this point?

I think I've since explained this adequately, but why didn't you ask me why I thought Generic was town? I have not explained that adequately to date, and in fact it was so weak that I no longer feel that way.

[KoreanBBQ]

Cephir, pray tell what you didn't like from our slot.

The placement of your early votes for one.

Also, as absurd as it sounds, post 37 I think it was?

[geists]

I liked Mara's early push on Cephrir. The target in and of itself isn't really that special, but the way she went about it seemed good to me (mostly the whole gearing up for a push and then completely letting it go part, that felt nice). So generic, if you're getting an early townread on Mara based on her initial posting, we're probably in agreement.

You actually need mara's posts to read them?

Yes? Cabd forming a town block with himself in the center early game doesn't exactly seem like something that's unlikely to be coming from Cabd-scum. Why do you disagree?

In those terms, because of stuff he's not doing. We've talked en hydra about what is different in his town vs scum machinations.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Cabd, my application to the town block will come in two parts.

1. Ffery. Let's make the same deal that F-16 and I made, minus the suspecting part.

2. VOTE: Pitoli

[geists]

I also didn't have a good townread on BRO until about two pages ago. What do you think of that?

I think Bro reads deserve caution, but I dunno. Maybe I'm seeing stuff you aren't, or vice versa. With town-Nacho, you're usually ahead of me on reads.

[Cephrir]

Cephir, pray tell what you didn't like from our slot.

The placement of your early votes for one.

Also, as absurd as it sounds, post 37 I think it was?

I know, but deal with it.

My gut is better at mafia than my head so I've decided to listen to it more.

[Cephrir]

1. Ffery. Let's make the same deal that F-16 and I made, minus the suspecting part.

These deals are just really, really odd.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Brian Skies is town.
geists is town.
F16 is town.
Generic is town.

Discuss.

Why geists and Brian town at this point?

I think I've since explained this adequately, but why didn't you ask me why I thought Generic was town? I have not explained that adequately to date, and in fact it was so weak that I no longer feel that way.

I asked you about geists because normally ffery paranoia is your thing.
I asked you about Brian because the read required him not picking up on F-16 town, which seemed strange.
I didn't ask you about Generic town because your answer wouldn't figure into my read on him much/help me out with my read on you at all, but I probably should have. Why generic town and why don't you feel that way anymore?

[geists]

Specifically I'm seeing parallels with how in Buzzword you jumped on the weakness in orcinus' entrance and encouraged/supported others' reads. At least with orcinus it was a genuinely off entrance. Brian's initial posts almost always look strained and uncomfortable.

I don't think Brian has a tendency to look weak early game. I thought there was clear motivation in F-16s opening to stay alive to sort out Nacho-scum, and I thought that it was strange Brian immediately attacked that, especially considering the mentor mentee game that recently ended which proves F-16 can read me pretty competently.

And didn't you get some questions about the original offer in the hunterxhunterx game?

I didn't question it in thread, but I damn sure got buldermar's take on it in our hydra discussions.

[Casso the King of Seals]

I also didn't have a good townread on BRO until about two pages ago. What do you think of that?

I think Bro reads deserve caution, but I dunno. Maybe I'm seeing stuff you aren't, or vice versa. With town-Nacho, you're usually ahead of me on reads.

I still think BRO deserves caution, but his "meh I fucking suck at large games" seemed a lot more honest than any BROscum play that I've seen. It's more about what he's not doing than what he is doing!

[Casso the King of Seals]

Specifically I'm seeing parallels with how in Buzzword you jumped on the weakness in orcinus' entrance and encouraged/supported others' reads. At least with orcinus it was a genuinely off entrance. Brian's initial posts almost always look strained and uncomfortable.

I don't think Brian has a tendency to look weak early game. I thought there was clear motivation in F-16s opening to stay alive to sort out Nacho-scum, and I thought that it was strange Brian immediately attacked that, especially considering the mentor mentee game that recently ended which proves F-16 can read me pretty competently.

And didn't you get some questions about the original offer in the hunterxhunterx game?

I didn't question it in thread, but I damn sure got buldermar's take on it in our hydra discussions.

Probably. But I'm assuming the people who questioned me were simply bad at gambits; I would expect Brian to see exactly where F-16 was coming from.

[Casso the King of Seals]

And note: Brian didn't question, he attacked.

[Casso the King of Seals]

1. Ffery. Let's make the same deal that F-16 and I made, minus the suspecting part.

These deals are just really, really odd.

What's odd about them?

[Cephrir]

Brian Skies is town.
geists is town.
F16 is town.
Generic is town.

Discuss.

Why geists and Brian town at this point?

I think I've since explained this adequately, but why didn't you ask me why I thought Generic was town? I have not explained that adequately to date, and in fact it was so weak that I no longer feel that way.

I asked you about geists because normally ffery paranoia is your thing.
I asked you about Brian because the read required him not picking up on F-16 town, which seemed strange.
I didn't ask you about Generic town because your answer wouldn't figure into my read on him much/help me out with my read on you at all, but I probably should have. Why generic town and why don't you feel that way anymore?

Eh, I think I liked 33, (and incidentally, later on, 83 and 92), but it wasn't a big deal. I changed my mind because it just wasn't nearly enough for such a blanket statement. I think I wanted one more person to call town because I was trying to make waves with post 39.

Correction: ffery paranoia is my thing sometimes, except when it's not. I think I'm roughly 50/50 on calling her obvtown vs. being paranoid for 2-3 days. The best correlate I've noticed is the volume and density/length of her posting.

[Cephrir]

1. Ffery. Let's make the same deal that F-16 and I made, minus the suspecting part.

These deals are just really, really odd.

What's odd about them?

Well...like...that just isn't how you're supposed to play this game! I don't think it's especially telling about any of you but it makes me squirm uncomfortably anyway.

[geists]

1. Ffery. Let's make the same deal that F-16 and I made, minus the suspecting part.

There are two of us and we're both suspicious right now.

UNVOTE

Nati and I will talk about it.