Mini 1524: Olympian Gods Mafia - Game Over

[MattP]

You're not going to replace out, are you? I didn't mean to be mean

Lel. No. I'm probably going to take a nap though.

[Malakittens]

Mala, do you remember what happened the last time you decided to ignore me?

I know. I been skimming posts.

So it's okay for her to just push one player and disregard the rest of the game? Really?

I'm might be pushing only Peng, but I'm hunting for her scumbuddies.

Even thought that's not what she's doing but w/e.

I'm hunting people it's not like I have her as my only scum read and it's not like I'm not looking for town reads either.

That looks fake, Nacho. You never expected me to say that? How so? If you are referring to my tunnels, even when I have them, I don't ignore the rest of the game. But even if I did, are we talking about me here? Does Mala play anything like me?

How is what she is doing ok? She is only responding to Desp, she is only spamming "lynch peng" and she is doing nothing. How are you not doubting your read on her at all given such play?

Lies. I'm not only responding to Desp. You're kidding me right?

@Grim: Face my demons? You missed a post that you based the majority of your case on not existing (that is, Wisdom having called you scum)I pointed out the post, and I explained everything in your large posts directed at me. I also pointed out I wasn't lying about going on a break

Yes, that is all very good, but I was referring to room 876 and obviously was not talking about the stuff that has been rendered irrelevant thanks to your briljant replies.

But you're not talking yourself out of that slip with Mala. Because you didn't use logic in that one. You used a play on emotions and I caught it. You're good at using logic against people, but you're lacking in the emo-use department.

I KNOW you wouldn't make a threat like that and I KNOW MAlakittens would not ignore such a threat unless it came from a scumpartner.

Nah. I know it was full of emotion, I was cranky, tired and wasn't wanting to deal with Wisdom's tunneling. I can see how him not wanting to play with me again regardless of my alignment due to it. I didn't comment to it because it was honest and truthful not because of anything else.

[Wisdom]

I don't see you hunting for partners or townreads.

[Wisdom]

Can we lynch Peng, please?

That's all you have to say?

What happened that strengthed your belief that penguin should be lynched?

What do you think about mollie, about shos, about Nacho, about everything that is happening in this thread?

I'd like an answer to this and a readlist.

[Malakittens]

I already given you a ton of readlists.

I already given you my thoughts on Mollie. You didn't see where I commented on Mollie's posts. My posts 641, 644, 647 & 649.

I still don't like Shos, but he's not my lynch I want this day phrase. I rather have Peng and then maybe about Shos. I don't like his attacks on me and his buddying with GG. However read my 867 for more thoughts on it.

I still liking my town read on Nacho.

[Wisdom]

Do you find it impossible that mollie has been using this Whiskers thing as a distraction?

[Malakittens]

It could be possible, but I was townreading her early.

I mean I don't even have a read on Whiskers yet. I am not the best at reading that kid.

[Whiskers]

^Keep in mind, Confirmation bias.

[MattP]

VOTE: Penguin

[shos]

so I was skimming - will read in depth later - and I found out that I'm still voting nacho, lol.

VOTE: wisdom but don't worry I will check out your game

[Grimgroove]

Apologies.

[Grimgroove]

Why can you not see him as scum?

I don't remember exactly I can actually see him as scum.

Here's the things I see:

Malakittens is acting scummy.
Nachomamma is defending Malakittens, almost moreso than Malakittens defends herself.

Here's the list of possible conclusions:

Nachomamma and Malakittens are scum together. This looks unlikely, because I don't see why someone like Nachomamma would implicate himself like that by protecting his scumbuddy. Then again, he might be just the person to take the WIFOM one step further.

Nachomamma is misguided town and Malakittens is scum. That's what I was thinking when posting I couldn't see him as scum. Somehow my status had an effect on me where every thought I had in my head became truth awfully quickly, and that's the thought I had at that time. When trying to come up with a reason as to why Nachomamma could be so misguided, the only thing I could come up with was that he was in love with her. Given the ridiculousness of that argument, and I can't come up with any other other than that I've overestimated Nachomamma because all I heared about him, this option seems less likely.

Nachomamma is scum trying to gain town-cred in the event of a Mala-townflip and get a Mala-buddy as long as she's around. A distinct possibility, but in order for me to truly entertain it MAlakittens needs to convince me herself she isn't scum. Before my V/LA this weekend I'll try to get my case on her through so she gets something to respond to. Nachomamma can respond to it as well, but only AFTER Malakittens did so.

Both Nachomamma abd Malakittens are town and I'm the one misguided. A possibility as well.

My case will need to move this debate forward and hopefully to a fruitful conclusion.

[Wisdom]

I've seen Nacho failing to read Mala before, so your second option is not that unlikely.

Also, Mala is not the only person Nacho defends; he also defended me.

I do think there should be a scum in them, and Mala looks more likely right now.

[Grimgroove]

I'll be

V/LA until Sunday evening 8th of December

.

Just getting that notice out there already, but I do intend to still post that case on Malakittens before I go, depending on how busy work is.

[Wisdom]

It could be possible, but I was townreading her early.

I mean I don't even have a read on Whiskers yet. I am not the best at reading that kid.

How do you not have a read on him? Did you read his exchange with mollie? Did you reach no conclusion from it?
What about his exchanges with me or Matt?

And why does the fact you were townreading her early, as you say, keep you from updating your read based on her recent behavior? Do you think mollie cannot have a strong scumgame and fool you?

[Malakittens]

Why can't nacho and I both be town? ;-;

I just have a really hard time reading Whiskers. I town read him in our first game together and it wasn't until late game when I realized he was scum. Only because he did something similar to me what GM did in DP.

I think she can have a strong scum game and fool me, but this doesn't feel like the fooling type of game by her, however. I been fooled in the past by scum her, so you can argue the validity of me being able to read her isn't that great.

[Wisdom]

So what do you think about him in this game, especially since you've played with him before?

[Malakittens]

This is different than what I remember besides the ending of one of his posts reminded me a bit of the scum game, but it is a minor thing.


I gotta go listen to 8 hours of Christmas songs! Back later (at break).

[Wisdom]

See, she reponds like this, refuses to be helpful, and then I have to accept she is town. I can't.

[Whiskers]

:/

wis... You are mala, I am you.

"What's wrong with

shos

whiskers?"
"meh."
"God damn it, why won't you help??"

[Wisdom]

Bad comparison. I am trying to get reads on everyone and help the game go forward. Mala is doing nothing.

[Desperado]

Why can't nacho and I both be town? ;-;

Both Nachomamma abd Malakittens are town and I'm the one misguided. A possibility as well.

[ooba]

This is a good game, btw. Scum are playing well, really every player sans Penguin is doing a damn good job of appearing town. Simultaneously, town are for the most part remaining calm and letting things take as much time as they need rather than falling apart. I like this. Nice first game back.

This is what I was thinking yesterday as well. I'll add Matt to the not lynching pile for D1 as well - not in the same tier as the other four reads though. (Wis, Mirari, Whis, mollie) - not even comfortable calling him "town" yet - just don't want to lynch D1.

Also on the quoted above, one scum may not be playing at all (Arc) - She should post soon.

I feel a bit less paranoid on Nacho solely due to the people on his wagon (ArcAngel9, shos, Grimgroove).

Which leaves

shos
Malakittens
ArcAngel9*
penguin_alien
Desperado
Grimgroove

[Wisdom]

Desp, what was your point there? I think Mala was responding to my "I do think one of them is scum".

[Wisdom]

ooba, why do you not like Grimgroove?

Also shos is not on Nacho's wagon, he voted him to test me (or so he says).