Mini 1524: Olympian Gods Mafia - Game Over

[penguin_alien]

I have not forgotten about my vote. Although Mala bugging mollie for a read on her is making me strongly consider Mala-scum.

[Wisdom]

penguin, read on shos?

[penguin_alien]

More verbose than I'm used to. Last serious game we played I wrongly scum-read him until near the end. Here he's transparent and engaged, as opposed to just being engaged in the other game. I would put him leaning town and definitely wouldn't lynch him today.

[MattP]

Can't really post right now but I wanna apologize in advance nacho for when I vote you out of paranoia in like a hundred pages from now

[MattP]

Well also btw Grimgroove scumslipped so we have GG and Shos as scum

How is it a scum slip? My opinion was that it was a preemptive announcement. Finally you realize I am town. What can I do to convince you ooba is town?
I'm with you on the penguin scum read. Why is her vote still on me? She has forgotten about her vote.

This confusion was cleared up later between myself and Wisdom.

I am pretty certain Ooba is town, as I said prior. I am LESS certain than I could be if he stopped using pictures and wrote more text. He'll eventually do this and within the next few RL days I'll settle my feelings. I don't really need convincing as of this moment.

I don't have Penguin as a scumread, I have him as "Eh" along with Desperado. Grim and Shos are my scumreads.

[MattP]

(however 427 makes me read P_A as scum. I think given a Grim/Penguin/Shos scumteam, where all three are in the spotlight, it's not unworldly that they would all mass buddy to try to get themselves out of such a ridiculously dire situation on page 18 of the game. Regardless, Shos is the only player I would lynch today, and I can worry more about relational tells tomorrow.)

[Wisdom]

It would make more sense if penguin/Grim were scum WKing shos-town though :/

Nacho sheeping people felt a little weird, I'm too used to him being the leader. At least he agrees with the reads.

[MattP]

It seems that a strange rift has formed between one group of people (Shos, Grim, Whiskers, Penguin) and another (everyone else) where the former is scumreading Mala, myself, and Wisdom; and the latter is scumreading Shos (and to varying degrees Penguin, Whiskers and Grim). There is essentially no fluidity between the reads of these two groups, aka there is no single person that scumreads BOTH someone from [Mala, MattP, Wisdom] and [Penguin, Whiskers, Grim, Shos].

Very strange, slightly unsettling. Potentially a great thing.

Pedit: Nacho has sheeped me before, and I thought he was scum that game, and he was town.

[MattP]

EBWOP: Well, I thought he was town and then scum when PoE left us in a terrible situation where pretty much everyone left was town as fuck. We chose right in the end anyway.

[Grimgroove]

Gah, you disagree with a universal scumread and this is what you get.

Is MattP always this confident about his reads?

I've played with him before once but something tells me he wasn't being his MAttP self there. He's definitely not behaving like he was during the sunny days, which in this case would hint at him being town but I'm not sold.

The close to universal townread on Malakittens is also beyond me.

393 and 394 read like a bad joke. Especially after 336 and later. And 222.

shos' latest buddying and agreeing with everything I say doesn't feel too good. Too over the top to still be genuine.

I'll get to the defending myself tomorrow. How I hate that part of the game.

[Wisdom]

shos' latest buddying and agreeing with everything I say doesn't feel too good. Too over the top to still be genuine.

Interesting, so you're dropping your shos townread now.

[Wisdom]

And 222.

Huh?

[Grimgroove]

shos' latest buddying and agreeing with everything I say doesn't feel too good. Too over the top to still be genuine.

Interesting, so you're dropping your shos townread now.

Yes.

[MattP]

It doesn't matter if you're scum, you're not getting lynched today anyway, specifically because you will be useful if town. I don't care if you're screaming at Shos in your Mafia QT (or maybe you don't have daytalk! Gotta avoid "scumslipping" about mechanic knowledge or Whiskers may Mr. Literal me) and backpedaling all of the damage he did while you were gone, or if you genuinely are town and realize you had a bad read. You have plenty of time to fix it.

I don't like how you just approached the obvscum Shos in this situation. I, simultaneously, get that being wrong about a read and being fucked over by buddying in the process is awkward to navigate around as town. Just come back to be the GrimGroove I know & love, and the damage will be controlled [:

[MattP]

For the record, Wisdom, Grim's reaction confirms at least for me that this can't be a Grim-scum, Shos-town scenario. It's either:

Grim-town and Shos-scum
or
Grim-scum and Shos-scum

Do you agree / does that clear up any reservations about WKing?

[MattP]

(Or Grim-Town and Shos-Town but lel)

[Wisdom]

Yeah, I agree it doesn't make much sense to stop the WK at that point. I think I'll go with Grim-town, shos-scum for now.

[shos]

whenever someone can tell me why they think I am scum, please do.
also, please do not use 'you sound like scum'. it's been used by four people now.

I'm off to sleep. looks like I'm going to be today's lynch, but it's not too bad, and much information will float from this wagon. so spam the thread as you wish guyz, you have at least 18 hours free from shos

[Elyse]

Votecount 1.05

Wisdom - 1 - shos (L-6)
Nachomamma8 - 1 - ArcAngel9 (L-6)
penguin_alien - 2 - Malakittens, Desperado (L-5)
Mirari - 1 - penguin_alien (L-6)
shos - 4 - MattP, Mirari, Wisdom, Nachomamm8 (L-3)
Malakittens - 1 - Grimgroove (L-6)
ArcAngel9 - 1 - ooba (L-6)
Whiskers - 1 - pirate mollie (L-6)
MattP - 1 - Whiskers (L-6)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2013-12-21 12:00:00)
Mirari is V/LA until Sunday.
Prodded ArcAngel9

Interesting Fact #6: Dionysus granted Midas the power to turn whatever he touched into gold.

[Mirari]

also, please do not use 'you sound like scum'. it's been used by four people now.

1...2...3...4... Yup. That's how many people on your wagon.

I said your content posts were filler. I still don't understand why you are pushing for Wisdom. You and penguin are generally being useless with your votes. But, you do have earlier emphasis on the vote. She doesn't.

Matt, is it odd that a pseudo-bloc has formed this quickly?
Ooba, hun, you should probably change your vote.

[ArcAngel9]

Prod received
sorry about the inactivity..will get my head into this in a bit.

[MattP]

Matt, is it odd that a pseudo-bloc has formed this quickly?

Yes, why?

[Whiskers]

@whiskers
No, it means Matt wants to post one-liners, and it's perfectly fine. That's not what active lurking is. He has provided tons of content and he still does.

tbh I don't like Whiskers right now, but I think he's more VI than scum.

@Whiskers
Activity means nothing. Amount of posts means nothing. What matters is quality. And Matt's posts have it. Period.

Yes, but no.

@Matt, why are you voting me?

Well, because you're mafia

Wow. Much content. So quality.

[Whiskers]

(or maybe you don't have daytalk! Gotta avoid "scumslipping" about mechanic knowledge or Whiskers may Mr. Literal me)

Says the guy who told me to wait for shos to post his scum role PM.

Or, wait, was that a joke? Sorry. Figured it must be another "reaction test".

[Whiskers]

I said your content posts were filler.

Dear Mirari,
Please read MattP.
Truly, An Cat