Mini 1505: N is for Normal (game over)

[zakk]

Drat, drat, drat. I'm going to lose you the game, I can feel it. And Elyse, shouldn't we no lynch today and then massclaim and lynch tomorrow?

I have townvibes from Gramr and Elyse. I think zakk and ICE are scum. I'm nullish on tool, although I've had a weird feeling about them.

Look at this post. Look at it.

[zakk]

That's probably the most transparently scum post Skelda has made all game.

>waffling back and forth about losing the game.
>asking people questions about what to do
>saying they have town vibes and scum vibes (none of which match up to what he claims to believe now, or which have already proven to be wrong)

[zakk]

Tool, I swear, unless you are scum WITH Skelda... which is looking increasingly likely, given the circumstances, then you are making a huge mistake.

Skelda should be gone today. And only Skelda.

Vote: Skelda

Elyse, Garmr, if you're town, you know what to do.

[zakk]

Drat, drat, drat. I'm going to lose you the game, I can feel it. And Elyse, shouldn't we no lynch today and then massclaim and lynch tomorrow?

I have townvibes from Gramr and Elyse. I think zakk and ICE are scum. I'm nullish on tool, although I've had a weird feeling about them.

Look at this post. Look at it.

And actually this post is even worse if Tool and Skelda are buddies.

Darn it Tool. If you're scum I want to throw my computer out a window.

[zakk]

zakk suspects Elyse and Skelda.
Garmr suspects Elyse and Skelda.
Elyse suspects zakk and Garmr.
Skelda suspects zakk and Garmr.

So this makes it look like one of the two is the scumteam. Especially considering Garmr and zakk have townreads on each other.

Also, the fact that we have stated town reads on each other means we're both

much

more likely to be

town

, for the record.

[zakk]

I'm done posting.

Lynch Skelda. There's nothing left to be said.

[toolenduso]

Personally I think all townies should unvote, and we should continue discussing.

I'm done posting.

Lynch Skelda. There's nothing left to be said.

[toolenduso]

zakk suspects Elyse and Skelda.
Garmr suspects Elyse and Skelda.
Elyse suspects zakk and Garmr.
Skelda suspects zakk and Garmr.

So this makes it look like one of the two is the scumteam. Especially considering Garmr and zakk have townreads on each other.

Also, the fact that we have stated town reads on each other means we're both

much

more likely to be

town

, for the record.

Uh, how so?

[zakk]

Because scum are much less likely to have town reads on each other.

[zakk]

Personally I think all townies should unvote, and we should continue discussing.

I'm done posting.

Lynch Skelda. There's nothing left to be said.

Yeah I changed my mind. Scum are pushing this to be a fast endgame so unless they are gonna unvote (unlikely) then it's probably not going to be a nice slow endgame where we work out all the possibilities. I probably started that trend by voting Elyse early on, but now it's being carried on.

If I was scum, I WOULD HAVE quick-hammered Garmr. If he's town, I win. If he's scum, I get massive town cred.

The fact is though, I'm pretty much confirmed town now.

[zakk]

If you're town, and I pray you are, unvote and vote Skelda.

[toolenduso]

Right. Or they're teaming up because they know they only need to convince one townie to get a mislynch.

Or one of you is scum and the other isn't. In which case my money is still on Garmr.

[toolenduso]

^that post was in reply to post #1258.

[zakk]

If you think it's Garmr and Skelda, PLEASE vote Skelda.

PLEASE. I'm begging you on my hands and knees.

[zakk]

And if you're scum with Skelda, then curse you for drawing this out.

Actually, that'd make a lot of sense because you could have voted Elyse earlier but told me to unvote because you wanted to wait for Skelda to be on at the same time... ahhh now my head is all jumbled up.

All I know is, Skelda > Elyse > tool > Garmr > me in order of my preferred lynches.
And for you: Garmr > Skelda > me > Elyse > tool in order of YOUR preferred lynches.

Let's compromise on Skelda.

[zakk]

I may have yours wrong, but the point is, Skelda is really high on both of our lists and I'm confirmed town and Garmr is really likely town and you're also more likely to be town than either of Skelda or Elyse. Meaning Skelda needs to die.

[Skelda]

zakk, how all over the place you are with your suspicions is just another sign of your scumminess. There's a reason you are pushing for my lynch, and that is that you know you can't get one on Elyse or tool and I am the only one left who isn't your scumbuddy. Zakk, who is my scumbuddy? You probably want it to be Elyse. And why is Garmr so innocent? You aren't thinking logically because you realize your ship is sinking. And you would not have quickhammered him because he is your partner!

Look, zakk, there is no way we are both town. Elyse and tool are obviously town for me, and so you and Garmr are literally the only the only ones left. If you were town you'd think like that too, you wouldn't come up with these madcap theories about Elyse and I or tool. You just can't stand bussing your partner so you are squirming.

[Elyse]

I want to see what Garmr thinks of Skelda and zakk.

But zakk, you are only confirmed town if Garmr is town, which we don't know. So yeah, sorry. You and Garmr as a scumteam still makes sense.

I find your paranoia on tool a little comforting, though probably misplaced, but I want Garmr to weigh in/vote/whatever before I make my decision.

[Skelda]

That's probably the most transparently scum post Skelda has made all game.

>waffling back and forth about losing the game.
>asking people questions about what to do
>saying they have town vibes and scum vibes (none of which match up to what he claims to believe now, or which have already proven to be wrong)

Alright, wait a second. Put yourself in my shoes. You are town. Tool is a claimed power role. You've thought Elyse was town all game. Who is left? Zakk and Gramr. It is just common sense. If you were saying you suspected Garmr and me, that'd be logic too. But you are so obviously flailing scum in addition to not be the only one left by process of elimination that I can't not vote for you.

The only thing I've got against Garmr is that I know he is bad and that he is townreading your pathetic efforts for some reason. So yes, I was wrong about him. Stop trying so desperately to get tool to vote me so you can win, because I'm pretty sure you know that if you don't get me lynched today, at this point, the scumteam will lose tomorrow.

[Skelda]

Oh and also, if Elyse was bad with me, why wouldn't Elyse have voted there and won?

[zakk]

I find your paranoia on tool a little comforting, though probably misplaced

This comment really rocks my scum read of you, for the record.

All I know is I want Skelda dead and the fact that he wants me dead is a prime example of the survivalistic necessity of his play right now.

Notice I am not being defensive in the least. I don't have to. Because I know I'm town.

[zakk]

Oh and also, if Elyse was bad with me, why wouldn't Elyse have voted there and won?

You make a strong case there.

Elyse's comment AS WELL AS Elyse not quick-hammering Garmr, means Elyse is really likely town, despite my leanings earlier today.

Unless, as scum, Elyse is just jerking us around. Which ("pun" not intended) would be a jerk move.

[zakk]

I'm trying really hard to figure out how toolenduso is town at this point. Really questioning my earlier town read.

Could it be Skelda/tool? All things are pointing to that right now.

[toolenduso]

I'm trying really hard to figure out how toolenduso is town at this point. Really questioning my earlier town read.

Well, since you trust Elyse now...Elyse, you want to explain why you think I'm town to zakk?

[Skelda]

So, here we have

Tool
Garmr
Zakk
Skelda
Elyse

Of these, the possible teams I see are

Garmr-zakk
Garmr-Skelda
Garmr-Elyse
Tool-zakk

Unless we have tool-zakk, Garmr is bad. Any other scenario scum would have already won.