Mini 1505: N is for Normal (game over)

[Elyse]

I understand thinking zakk is town for wanting to clear you, but you're untouchable and it's a foregone conclusion you're not going to be lynched today. Wanting to clear you is just confirming what we already knew. It's a good scum tactic.

[Skelda]

Skelda's internet has been out. Sorry. Unfortunately, I'm a VT. I wish I wasn't. This whole game I've wished I wasn't because it became obvious I wasn't dying.

Zakk is 100 percent scum. There is no doubt in my mind now. He would not have thrown around votes so easily if he wasn't scum, and the scum would have hammered when he did if he wasn't. The only question for me is who is his buddy. Not Elyse, obviously. I never really got into this game, so I don't have clear memories of where my head was at, but I definitely remember thinking Gramr was town. I'm strongly doubting that now. So, I say we lynch either zakk or Gramr and then lynch the other one tomorrow and win.

[Skelda]

So,

I think Gramr is likely town, which seems contrary to popular belief.

I read his confusion on Day 1 as genuine, and scum don't usually like to seem confused. I'd like an ICE lynch today. Alright?

@Skelda: Why are you null on me?

I've felt like I've not liked some of the reasons for your hopping on wagons, but at the same time I don't think I'm convinced you are scum either. It doesn't matter, I'll be voting zakk or Slandaar in LyLo. Maybe

Garm if I get some good reasons to

, but if you are scum you've won.

1. Contradicts self in read of Garmr; seems likely town / would maybe vote him
2. Encourages people to convince him that Garmr is scum. Why don't you convince yourself?

There is literally no reason to keep Skelda or Elyse alive. They are the remaining 2 scum.

The only reason I am not voting them right now is because tool is paranoid.

You are forgetting that I've barely even read the game and so my analysis of Gramr was based on a limited number of his posts. If someone came up with an amazing reason to vote Gramr, I would. I'm just swimming in a pool of apathy, that's why I'm still alive, and since tool is cleared as far as I'm concerned and Elyse isn't scum or you wouldn't be smart enough to vote her, you and Gramr are bad and you came up with this theory to try and win. You just needed me dead, was that too much to manage? No, and I thought this was a lost cause because of that, but clearly you had to drag Elyse into it and jeopardize your chance. Well done.

It will be hilarious if the the first game I win on Mafiascum is the one I barely posted on. Tells you something about my scumhunting, hmm?

[Elyse]

You're a VT?

Damn.

If tool is a VT that's a weak town. Only two PRs. Well I guess it's fair if scum only has encryptor.

Either way, Skelda, I am happy you share my thoughts because I thought I was going crazy for a second. You could be bussing, but probably not.

So yeah I'm ready to vote now that my scumpool has claimed.

VOTE: zakk

[Skelda]

Elyse, I know! I even thought about lying for a second if it would grant us a win, but knowing me I'd screw it up and plus it totally isn't my style to lie as town even if it would have been helpful.

Tool, are you down with zakk dying or would you prefer Garmr? I have no preference, both are all but confirmed bad to me.

[toolenduso]

Well I was hoping for scum to claim PR, but I guess I can applaud them for not doing so.

I'm a seraph knight. I would hold back on my claim, but I was already going to die tonight anyway.

So I'm going to go back over the day and get back to everybody with a vote. I still feel like town has a pretty good chance of lynching scum today.

[N]

Vote Count 5.02

zakk

(1) Elyse

Garmr

(0)

toolenduso

(0)

Elyse

(0)

Skelda

(0)

Not Voting:

zakk, Garmr, toolenduso, Skelda

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2013-11-23 04:14:03)

[Skelda]

Tool, if you are okay with zakk I'll just vote him now. Actually, I think I will anyway.

VOTE: zakk

Tool is confirmed and I trust Elyse, so it literally makes no difference whether Garmr or zakk goes first to me. Tool, hammer away.

[Skelda]

UNVOTE:

Actually, I don't want a surprise. Let's make sure we're ready.

[Elyse]

Well I was hoping for scum to claim PR, but I guess I can applaud them for not doing so.

I'm a seraph knight. I would hold back on my claim, but I was already going to die tonight anyway.

So I'm going to go back over the day and get back to everybody with a vote. I still feel like town has a pretty good chance of lynching scum today.

Seraph knight is such a cool role omg I wish I had that.

DON'T SAY WHO YOU PROTECTED.

(I didn't think you would but just in case)

[Skelda]

I assumed if he was going to he would have done so already.

[zakk]

Yeah. It's Skelda/Elyse. They know they have to get me lynched in order to win. And that's what they're gearing up to try to do. Out-shout me, use bold-caps, whatever they can do to try to convince you and Garmr, tool.

I'm interested to know who they think is my scumbuddy though? If I'm scum, I've got to have a scumbuddy. But it makes no sense for it to be anybody. I am probably the only person in the game who has taken strong stances on everyone in the game thus far.

tool/Garmr: Why don't you go check the interactions between Elyse/Skelda/Thor... doesn't it look like they're avoiding talking to or about each other?

I'm not scum, scout's honor. You'll just have to trust me on this. If you can't trust me, then the game is lost.

That's pretty much all there is to it. It's zakk vs Elyse/Skelda.
And I swear on the sword of my father Inigo Montoya that I'm town.

[Elyse]

Nice AtE.

If you want to convince anyone, you should try refuting the arguments against you.

[Skelda]

zakk, why is it Elyse and I? I want actual reasons. And why isn't it you?

[Skelda]

VOTE: zakk

There is no reason to delay any more.

[toolenduso]

So here's where we are:

zakk suspects Elyse and Skelda.
Garmr suspects Elyse and Skelda.
Elyse suspects zakk and Garmr.
Skelda suspects zakk and Garmr.

So this makes it look like one of the two is the scumteam. Especially considering Garmr and zakk have townreads on each other.

But it also means Garmr is by far the safer lynch.

VOTE: Garmr

Please join me in voting Garmr, Elyse and Skelda.

Here's my reasoning:

1. Skelda jumped onto Elyse's "bandwagon" of zakk pretty quickly. This either means Skelda is scum along with Garmr going for a lynch on townzakk or Skelda is jumpy town going for a lynch against scumzakk.
2. Either way, Garmr is on the scum team.

For further evidence of Garmr's scuminess, go back and look at his reasoning for lynching townICE in Post #959.

This doesn't necessarily mean zakk is town, but I am just having a really hard time seeing how Garmr isn't scum right now, considering who suspects who in day five.

[Skelda]

That is what I figured you'd say, tool. It makes no difference to me.

VOTE: Garmr

[toolenduso]

Please join me in voting Garmr, Elyse and Skelda.

EBWOP: Elyse and Skelda, please join me in voting for Garmr.

[zakk]

TOOL LOOK HOW FAST SKELDA VOTED HIM
UNVOTE AHHHH

SKELDA IS SCUM

[zakk]

Vote: Skelda

This game was lost from the moment people started lynching peeps like ABR.

I feel like I've been the only sane one this whole game.

[toolenduso]

I feel like I've been the only sane one this whole game.

[toolenduso]

If Skelda is scum and you are town then Garmr is also scum. My vote stays where it is.

[zakk]

I really really really think it's Skelda and Elyse.

Can you please just agree to lynch Skelda with me today. When Skelda flips scum we can argue about Garmr/Elyse tomorrow

[zakk]

Actually wait, one of us would die overnight and that would mean we couldn't argue about it tomorrow. But which ever one of us dies will be pretty telling in who's scum. Scum will want to WIFOM it, and they know what we think and they'll know who we want to lynch, but they will also want to manipulate us.

Personally I think all townies should unvote, and we should continue discussing.

Clearly I'm not scum, and I don't think you are either, Tool.

Unvote plz

Unvote

[zakk]

I feel like I've been the only sane one this whole game.

Yes, exactly.