Mini 1505: N is for Normal (game over)

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's this guy:



Vincent Cassel.

[N]

Vote Count 1.07

TCold

(0)

ICEninja

(0)

zakk

(1) Garmr

Garmr

(4) Axxle, zakk, TCold, Macros

toolenduso

(0)

Sir Bastion

(0)

Slandaar

(3) Maxous, Thor665, Sir Bastion

Thor665

(2) Slandaar, Albert B. Rampage

Macros

(0)

Maxous

(0)

GuthrieGov

(0)

Albert B. Rampage

(1) toolenduso

Axxle

(0)

Not Voting:

ICEninja, GuthrieGov

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2013-10-23 18:36:35)

[TCold]

Fluff

Garmr, stop butchering my name!

/Fluff

I'm keeping my vote where it is for now. Not liking Garmr too much. Reading a lot of indecisiveness in his posts and he is all over the place as someone mentioned before... in a post... somewhere around here. The wagon on him is justified and I wouldn't mind his lynch today.

There are other scummy people though.

ABR for instance. I'm gonna sheep ninja on this matter, because i've been thinking the same thing while reading the thread.

The debate of Slaandar and Thor is mainly making me think of both as town, but being convinced the other is scum. In any case town is not getting much good out of it...

[Albert B. Rampage]

Town is getting a great deal out of it, by shedding light on Thor being scum.

[Thor665]

Putting it more succinctly, Thor putting a general call out to lynch Slandaar is hilariously scummy with zakk, TCold, Axxle, etc. having posted so little. It reads like someone who is interested in convincing others of his opinion, therefore manipulating the lynch, rather than peering through the veil using his own observational skills.

Remember when I asked Ice if he had ever played a game with you when he decided to make up meta about how you would or wouldn't play the game as town?

Yeah, you should now consider that for me.
Because you just said 'Hey, I see this thing Thor does in literally every game he's played for the last two years - but he'd never do that as town...even though there is a blinding amount of evidence to the contrary'

Also, why are you ignoring how revisionist Slandaar is being?
It's not subtle.

[Thor665]

Heck, i literally just had a Newbie end where I did this.
Day 1 *and* Day 2.

i can link if you'd like to continue to claim that you remotely understand how I play the game as town or scum.

[ICEninja]

Alright I virtually never say things like this, but I think the activity level needs to take a tiny step back. We have several players with fewer than 5 posts, and Thor with 41. Some of which being fairly hefty posts.

I very rarely struggle to keep up in a game, but I feel like I need to devote a chunk of this time 2 or 3 times a day in order to keep current, let alone spending time going back and rereading.

More than 10 posts per real life day is a bit excessive *cough cough*.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Go ahead and link me to your last 3 games, Thor.

[Thor665]

Oh, like that's intimidating.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29632
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31336
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=30368

I look forward to this meta analysis.

[Sir Bastion]

hmmm

I dont believe in the misrep, I do think though despite his claims otherwise Slandaar has been the one that has dragged this into the end result we have:

You claim Thor iniatiated the wallposts of doom yet a casual look back at the two of you in iso paint a different picture:

Thor's first raises this issue in post 60 it is 1 of numerous points he makes about a number of players, including a vote on me.

you directly respond to him in 71

He responded to you in post 75 the important thing to note here, is not only did he respond to you but he then asked for your input on issues elsewhere. Specifically he wanted your input on me.

Your response in post 88 can be considered the first major wall o text in the game. It is solely focused on thors single post (unlike earlier where thor was responding to multiple people) and most importantly while you call foul or correct him on his logic line by line, you completely sidestep giving input on issues elsewhere.

Thor's response in post 91 followed up by what I still feel despite your claims otherwise is you goading him futher into this logic roundabout in post 114


This paints a very different picture to your claim when you voted Thor

Before a game even begins you know we will not agree on logic especially if we are both town and you know that actually all that will happen is wall wars where we just don't come to agreement and want to lynch the other.

During game Thor tries to argue my logic is scummy.

Doesn't make sense, I expect if you were town you would have tried alternative methods like seeing if I lurk hard or not, but instead you went the superficial way of arguing logic which is ultimately pointless and not actually going to get you a read that is useful because it always ends the same way. Add to that the fact I have ALWAYS (when town) been correct and it is just a ridiculous strategy from a TownThor plus its always to do with how things are worded so at a minimum a TownThor should have at least tweaked a little.

How can someone expect to read me with a method which is proven not to work?

Thor is fake scumhunting.

you say you and thor knew getting into a argument over your or his logic would end in disaster and that thor went full into it and thats what makes him scummy.

but that didnt happen, you initiated this spat in post 88, you started dissecting and focusing on this one issue, you ignored requests for input elsewhere in the game and frankly a quick look at your ISO shows you Have not talked about anything else. Yet you are blaming thor for this.


Makes no sense

[Axxle]

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[Sir Bastion]

you're so boring

[Slandaar]

hmmm

I dont believe in the misrep, I do think though despite his claims otherwise Slandaar has been the one that has dragged this into the end result we have:

Not that it really matters but; no. It starts at 75 which is where Thor asks a bunch of questions, I respond with a wall hence the point in my example.

you say you and thor knew getting into a argument over your or his logic would end in disaster and that thor went full into it and thats what makes him scummy.

Uh not exactly; Thor knows he won't agree with my logic. So, Thortown would see no point arguing with me as it doesn't matter my alignment disagreeing on logic is purely null and as such will go nowhere. Thortown especially wouldn't suggest my logic is scummy because he knows in fact I always post arguments like the one in question therefore his doing so makes him scum.

you ignored requests for input elsewhere in the game and frankly a quick look at your ISO shows you Have not talked about anything else.

Well him and tool.

Your point in a nutshell is I posted some walls which is at best terrible and I didn't fulfill peoples requests which is pretty bad to do as scum but we will call that null for arguments sake.

[Slandaar]

Also, why are you ignoring how revisionist Slandaar is being?
It's not subtle.

Do show!

Why are you even still voting me Thor when your whole super duper misrep has been proven false?

I didn't respond to tools post purposefully just so you know

[Sir Bastion]

Not that it really matters but; no. It starts at 75 which is where Thor asks a bunch of questions, I respond with a wall hence the point in my example.

I addressed post 75 in which he specifically asked for your opinion on a different issue which you ignored.

[Sir Bastion]

Well him and tool.

which is one in the same issue. Do you have an opinion on any other player in the game? How do you feel about the leading wagon on Garmr for example?

Your point in a nutshell is I posted some walls which is at best terrible and I didn't fulfill peoples requests which is pretty bad to do as scum but we will call that null for arguments sake.

my point is you are blaming (and voting) thor for a logic fight which frankly you started.

[Slandaar]

I addressed post 75 in which he specifically asked for your opinion on a different issue which you ignored.

What Issue?

I am fairly sure I responded to everything in that post.

which is one in the same issue. Do you have an opinion on any other player in the game?

Yes.

How do you feel about the leading wagon on Garmr for example?

Don't care for the wagon.

my point is you are blaming (and voting) thor for a logic fight which frankly you started.

No I explained in 2 lines my reasoning and that could have been that.
He asks a bunch of questions
I post wall in response
He argues.

Which of that is not accurate?

[Sir Bastion]

What Issue?

I am fairly sure I responded to everything in that post.

at the end of post 75

Also, a read on Bastion would be nice.

[Sir Bastion]

Don't care for the wagon.

what about the people on it.

Do you think its a town led wagon or do you think its got scum in it.


and since you are here, what is the motivation for scum thor to get into a logic fight with you so early in day 1?

[N]

Prodding GuthrieGov

[Thor665]

Also, why are you ignoring how revisionist Slandaar is being?
It's not subtle.

Do show!

I have.

Why are you even still voting me Thor when your whole super duper misrep has been proven false?

It has not been proven false.
Multiple other players agree it exists...but for some reason are just deciding it is not scummy.

I didn't respond to tools post purposefully just so you know

The sunglasses make that a town action.
Oh...wait.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Read the first two games Thor has linked. Thor is scum.

[Thor665]

Chainsaw?

[Albert B. Rampage]

No, it's plain as day that you're scum.

[zakk]

I too am getting a false bravado feel from Thor after a preliminary read through. I will have to go read his other games as well. Garmr changing his vote to me makes me feel even more satisfied with my vote on him. I'll comment more in depth about these situations and more I noticed, today or tomorrow. Before the end of the 3-day weekend for sure.