N's Notably Narcissistic Nonsensical Namesake (game over)

BBmolla · Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:47 pm

Haha

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Haha yeah

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N's notable
Making things quotable
Reading the game when I'm not playing dota (bull)

Sleepykrew
Becomes stu
Dayvigged in like post 2

Just kidding
I'm bidding
On this getting crazy at this sitting

Wish the dayvig was real
Before thelove I would kneel
Cause Skrew got a role pm that says he's vile as veal

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Word up

VOTE: Sleepykrew

BBmolla · Post Post #26 (isolation #1) » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:35 pm

@Mod: Can you confirm that 10 to lynch instead of 9 is correct?

BBmolla · Post Post #29 (isolation #2) » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:45 pm

In post 27, Rail Tracer wrote:can someone explain to me why there are some people not voting sleepykrew?

All his buddies

BBmolla · Post Post #56 (isolation #3) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:58 am

I don't even think he's scum for the claim in particular, I think he's just scum for his postings.

BBmolla · Post Post #77 (isolation #4) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:28 am

In post 72, Rail Tracer wrote:wait, you actually think sleepykrew is scum? i didn't know there were serious votes.

Yep

BBmolla · Post Post #81 (isolation #5) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:35 am

BBmolla · Post Post #185 (isolation #6) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:59 am

mnemonicdevice is Sleepy's buddy

PB is annoying town who will probably get himself mislynched today

In post 169, Rail Tracer wrote:
Unvote

Vote: BBMolla

^He's town

VA is probably newscum. But that's unlikely with the SK vote.

BBmolla · Post Post #186 (isolation #7) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:00 pm

Can we not get distracted from the SK lynch please

BBmolla · Post Post #190 (isolation #8) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:11 pm

BBmolla · Post Post #192 (isolation #9) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:20 pm

His claim is bullshit Kat

BBmolla · Post Post #193 (isolation #10) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:21 pm

Wait

SK needs to claim if he's miller and give me specifics.

BBmolla · Post Post #198 (isolation #11) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:11 pm

UNVOTE:
VOTE: mnemonicdevice

Kat wanna join me here?

Revelations have me believing SK's role for the moment. But he should claim.

BBmolla · Post Post #200 (isolation #12) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:26 pm

Hey nero/mollie you should vote mnemoncisdicvnic

BBmolla · Post Post #216 (isolation #13) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:45 pm

You're scum as evidenced by your first two post mnemeneodig

BBmolla · Post Post #218 (isolation #14) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:57 pm

In post 205, Rail Tracer wrote:
bbmolla wrote:^He's town
how do you get that from my vote on you?

bbmolla wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: mnemonicdevice
why?

bbmolla wrote:Revelations have me believing SK's role for the moment.
why did you think he was scum?

neromollie wrote:rail is null.

sleepy looks town I think.
how are you town on sleepykrew and null on me? like, how have you not at least formed some sort of read on me?

Cause you are town and the people calling you scum are silly. Your vote just made it final.

Cause he's scum that nobody is notcing

SK's claim is still garbage, but in combination with a certain factor he might be town for it.

BBmolla · Post Post #329 (isolation #15) » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:27 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Katsuki

BBmolla · Post Post #375 (isolation #16) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:46 am

UNVOTE:

BBmolla · Post Post #379 (isolation #17) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:37 am

Katsuki isn't trolling as much as he should be. Something is off.

BBmolla · Post Post #380 (isolation #18) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:42 am

Nah k nvm

VOTE: Katsuki

Whoever said SK is fluffposting is ridiculous btw

BBmolla · Post Post #382 (isolation #19) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:58 am

Kid don't do that to me, I actually think you're town let's talk this out

BBmolla · Post Post #384 (isolation #20) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:00 am

I've been out of it this whole game. My role and your role work together so let's work together.

BBmolla · Post Post #385 (isolation #21) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:01 am

At least leave me with more. Just like post all your reads. Don't care how shitty they look or whatever. Just tell me your thoughts.

BBmolla · Post Post #388 (isolation #22) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:06 am

In post 386, SleepyKrew wrote:No like I seriously cannot do this if my migraines are going to hurt this much

Oh. Gotcha then. That's understandable. Take care man

And yeah every single of mmnemkmonic's posts have been awful.

BBmolla · Post Post #389 (isolation #23) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:06 am

Your reads rock btw

BBmolla · Post Post #427 (isolation #24) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:14 pm

In post 420, mnemonicdevice wrote:
In post 395, Dante wrote:
In post 387, SleepyKrew wrote:Oh mnemonic is scummy for asking for me to supply my previous games and then not following up when I ignored him
Also, took the bait on the Magic 8-ball like it was 4realz.
And also did like 5 other people.

^Why is nobody taking note of this guy

BBmolla · Post Post #444 (isolation #25) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:09 am

In post 428, Rail Tracer wrote:because fuck you, stop ignoring me, bbmolla

?

What am I ignoring?

BBmolla · Post Post #453 (isolation #26) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:22 am

In post 219, Rail Tracer wrote:i'm still not seeing how you think i'm town for the vote on you.

i think the second part of mnemonic's first post looked townish. why is it scummy?

and why did sk's claim make you think scum? i assumed you had some other reason, given you citing his "posting" as the reason when i asked about it earlier... (see 56)[/quote]

In post 218, BBmolla wrote:Cause you are town and the people calling you scum are silly. Your vote just made it final.

^It's just your postings. You aren't scared of shit. You're scumhunting. etc.

In post 116, mnemonicdevice wrote:VOTE: dopog

This isn't random. He is by far the most scummy person so far.

This is townish?

I could vote you and say the same thing and not have any reasoning. It's just a hidden random vote.

In regards to claim, last like 3/4 miller claims have been by scum. His first page posts were all dreadful contributing to my doubt in him being town. Recent shit is all town as hell.

BBmolla · Post Post #469 (isolation #27) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:40 am

In post 466, dopog wrote:@BBmolla; what are your reads on ooba, DeasVail and myself?

All bleh.

BBmolla · Post Post #498 (isolation #28) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:32 am

In post 495, Shadowy Poison wrote:molla what's up with this and the SK buddying? It's all terribly scummy.

Well what's wrong with "this." SK buddying is because he's town and he decided to replace out despite being the only driving force behind keeping this town active.

BBmolla · Post Post #499 (isolation #29) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:32 am

Well what's wrong with "this"?*

BBmolla · Post Post #501 (isolation #30) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:32 am

In post 490, N wrote:
Searching for replacement for Vifam

Make it a good one.

BBmolla · Post Post #502 (isolation #31) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:33 am

Can I also say Mmoenneono ignoring my accusations makes me more certain he's scum

BBmolla · Post Post #503 (isolation #32) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:34 am

Dante is town.

Also thought Dante was a hydra Nacho was in derp

BBmolla · Post Post #504 (isolation #33) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:35 am

Shadowy is town.

BBmolla · Post Post #505 (isolation #34) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:36 am

In post 484, Shadowy Poison wrote:
In post 478, Luna Lovegood wrote:Vote: Shadowy Poison
I guess I'll wait for the reason behind this

just, don't kill me

Before I get asked why, it's for this, but I don't want to explain more.

BBmolla · Post Post #508 (isolation #35) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:51 am

In post 506, Shadowy Poison wrote:@ molla: I didn't like your silent hop on Kat after you reached out to them earlier, I didn't like your unvote after Kat replaced out, and I didn't like your reaction to getting called out on unvoting.

*shrug*

Okay.

BBmolla · Post Post #509 (isolation #36) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:51 am

I mean I don't know what you want me to say to that.

I was unsure on the read and flip flopped.

BBmolla · Post Post #511 (isolation #37) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:37 am

In post 510, Luna Lovegood wrote:She lurks a lot and does things like that, unfortunately.

Damn I hate when newer players play how I expect scum players to play

BBmolla · Post Post #517 (isolation #38) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:27 pm

Really sorry to hear that N, best of wishes to you.

BBmolla · Post Post #602 (isolation #39) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:59 pm

I just recently realized Rail Tracer is muffinman

Des talk to me more about this molla scumread

BBmolla · Post Post #603 (isolation #40) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:59 pm

I'm still pretty okay with PV, his reads were trash.

BBmolla · Post Post #605 (isolation #41) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:05 pm

cum read lol

BBmolla · Post Post #606 (isolation #42) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:06 pm

Hey Rail Tracer just so you know, MuM is the scum on your wagon. I'd try to start a wagon but it won't happen, I'll just vig him tonight

BBmolla · Post Post #608 (isolation #43) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:11 pm

Nah, he's scum. I ISO'd him.

Trust me. I'm a doctor.

BBmolla · Post Post #611 (isolation #44) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:14 pm

What are you implying, that I'm not a CPR Doc

BBmolla · Post Post #688 (isolation #45) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:17 am

In post 679, PeregrineV wrote:Claim: Confirm-able town PR

More please.

BBmolla · Post Post #703 (isolation #46) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:22 pm

Dopog is probably a mislynch, but I'll hop on to get a lynch.

BBmolla · Post Post #706 (isolation #47) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:46 pm

Who'd you replace

BBmolla · Post Post #711 (isolation #48) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:31 pm

Okay then you're town.

I'm already on PV, people are just gonna get suckered into the "confirmable town role" thing.

BBmolla · Post Post #727 (isolation #49) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:24 pm

In post 725, Rail Tracer wrote:who do you think is scum?

MuM and probably menemenkocin

BBmolla · Post Post #736 (isolation #50) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:41 pm

nero/mollie might be scum, still deciding.

BBmolla · Post Post #756 (isolation #51) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:00 am

Oh gotcha, you're a lover and scum should target you. Got it.

BBmolla · Post Post #758 (isolation #52) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:50 am

His claim is really obvious tbh

BBmolla · Post Post #776 (isolation #53) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:21 am

Here to hammer if needed.

BBmolla · Post Post #779 (isolation #54) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:41 am

Why would you not out that as town

BBmolla · Post Post #780 (isolation #55) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:42 am

Like that should be a page 1 claim

BBmolla · Post Post #783 (isolation #56) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:22 pm

In post 782, RadiantCowbells wrote:-If Dopog flips scum, you are lynching BBMolla tomorrow no matter what end story thanks bye.

wat

BBmolla · Post Post #784 (isolation #57) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:23 pm

If I was his maf buddy I'd have had him out it immediately for towncred

BBmolla · Post Post #826 (isolation #58) » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:45 pm

VOTE: MUM

BBmolla · Post Post #828 (isolation #59) » Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:46 pm

I think the role is irrelevent.

BBmolla · Post Post #839 (isolation #60) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:17 am

PV you targetted me y/n?

BBmolla · Post Post #840 (isolation #61) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:17 am

Never mind.

BBmolla · Post Post #843 (isolation #62) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:50 am

In post 835, Rail Tracer wrote:@bb,

why is MUM scum?

I don't remember. I'd have responded later after looking it up and remembering/confirming, but complaints have forced me to respond early.

I do remember that he is, and I trust myself enough to vote there for now.

BBmolla · Post Post #844 (isolation #63) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:52 am

Oh yeah active lurking, jokey attitude, general scummy behavior. He was the scum on your wagon.

BBmolla · Post Post #846 (isolation #64) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:00 am

If someone framed or tailored someone else they need to claim now.

BBmolla · Post Post #851 (isolation #65) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:58 am

I'm a naive cop with a guilty on RadiantCowbell, so she should be fairly confirmed town unless anyone claims to have framed her.

BBmolla · Post Post #853 (isolation #66) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:46 am

BBmolla · Post Post #854 (isolation #67) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:46 am

I guess there could be a Sanity Switcher that gives me an alternate result or some bullshit.

BBmolla · Post Post #861 (isolation #68) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:34 pm

To my role PM!

And Mtillos, I was told I was a Naive Cop, I also know the identity of a Paranoid one.

BBmolla · Post Post #862 (isolation #69) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:35 pm

It says my result will always be innocent.

But I have a guilty on RadiantCowbells.

@mod: If a framer framed someone, and a naive cop investigated that player, what would happen?

BBmolla · Post Post #869 (isolation #70) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:02 pm

I wasn't informed of jack shit.

BBmolla · Post Post #879 (isolation #71) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:58 pm

I am in a neighborhood with one or more people. Assuming this is what is being referred to.

BBmolla · Post Post #907 (isolation #72) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:06 pm

In post 904, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 879, BBmolla wrote:I am in a neighborhood with one or more people. Assuming this is what is being referred to.
Did you join last night, or start the game this way?

Started in the neighborhood.

@ooba: I thought I was a paranoid cop due to my guilty result. Then one of my neigbbors mentioned they had a guilty in the hood. And then I rechecked, realized I was naive, and realized something wasn't right.

If it helps at all, this isn't a gambit. It'd be really fucking stupid if it was.

BBmolla · Post Post #908 (isolation #73) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:08 pm

In post 902, DeasVail wrote:The thing is though, I'm pretty sure BBmolla's played on EM a fair bit (I could be wrong though) and I think anyone from there would be quite familiar with the different kinds of cop, but again, I don't know.

Yeah, I have, I'm honestly not sure if even on EM cop sanity goes above framer though.

I'm not stupid guys, I just forgot I was naive and assumed I was paranoid because of the guilty result. That's where you're getting the lapse in logic.

BBmolla · Post Post #909 (isolation #74) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:09 pm

Oh

Well this is awkward

...

It was a mod error

>_>

BBmolla · Post Post #910 (isolation #75) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:11 pm

In post 881, Mitillos wrote:@BB: So, wait. You're a naive cop, who got a guilty result, is in a neighbourhood and knows that someone specific is a paranoid cop?
Why do I feel that all this makes absolutely no sense and you're just trying to obfuscate matters?
Is the paranoid cop your neighbour? Did they also get told that they were not sane?

Every role we've seen so far was made up of two N-words and had two components to its description. You are claiming three components (Cop, Naive, Neighbour). I'm not sure I believe you.

I'm Naive Cop Neighbor and it tells me the sanities of all other Cop Neighbors in my neighborhood.

BBmolla · Post Post #911 (isolation #76) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:12 pm

In post 891, Dante wrote:
In post 833, PeaceBringer wrote:
In post 830, RadiantCowbells wrote:I got a guilty on Peacebringer last night >:(
that is a lie or you are paranoid...
might as well claim then- my role is Networker. It is negative ultility. There may be logic in my dying, as anyone who has a QT has full access during the day as long as alive. I die they lose it.
Can anyone confirm they have daytalk?

Yep.

BBmolla · Post Post #912 (isolation #77) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:14 pm

In post 897, Rail Tracer wrote:i suppose bb could be scum who lied about being a naive cop because he didn't know what naive meant. he clearly didn't know what naive meant when he claimed.

I know what a naive cop is

I had a guilty so I tried to think of possibilities. Which, assuming it was wasn't a mod error as I did, would be:

-Framer frame going above sanity.
-Targetable Psychotrooper
-Secret Normaliser

The first option seemed most likely.

BBmolla · Post Post #914 (isolation #78) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:17 pm

In post 913, DeasVail wrote:I don't have time to check, but I thought you said you were naive when you first posted the result, so this doesn't sound too believable.

Well I got guilty, assumed I was paranoid, ignored result. Once I saw that one of the others in my neighborhood was Paranoid only then did I go "Wait... what the fuck am I then." and check my PM and post when I realized I was a naive cop with a guilty.

Mod said there was a role mix-up and the result should have been innocent.

BBmolla · Post Post #927 (isolation #79) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:29 pm

In post 916, Rail Tracer wrote:
bb wrote:I know what a naive cop is
then why the fuck did you think getting a guilty on RC made RC near confirmed town?

that to me suggests you thought naive meant insane. and the fact you didn't ask the mod about how the fuck you could get a guilty suggests you had no idea what naive means.

For fucks sake, I feel like a broken record

Because obviously if I'm a naive cop getting a guilty

something is fucking afoot.

The most obvious answer, assuming other roles trump sanity, is that he was framed.

Nobody claimed a frame, so he would be almost certainly town framed by scum.

BBmolla · Post Post #928 (isolation #80) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:37 pm

In post 919, Rail Tracer wrote:
bb wrote:I thought I was a paranoid cop due to my guilty result. Then one of my neigbbors mentioned they had a guilty in the hood. And then I rechecked, realized I was naive, and realized something wasn't right.
you claimed naive in the same post you claimed the guilty. so this obviously isn't true.

Jesus christ you're dense

TIMELINE FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T READ

START OF DAY 2:

"OH HEY LOOK I GOT A GUILTY, I GUESS THAT MAKES SENSE CAUSE I'M A PARANOID COP(I KNOW I WAS NAIVE OR PARANOID AND CAUSE I GOT A GUILTY I MUST HAVE BEEN PARANOID)"

PERSON POSTS IN NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT GETTING A GUILTY

BBmolla · Post Post #929 (isolation #81) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:39 pm

In post 919, Rail Tracer wrote:
bb wrote:I thought I was a paranoid cop due to my guilty result. Then one of my neigbbors mentioned they had a guilty in the hood. And then I rechecked, realized I was naive, and realized something wasn't right.
you claimed naive in the same post you claimed the guilty. so this obviously isn't true.

Jesus christ you're dense

TIMELINE FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T READ

START OF DAY 2:

"OH HEY LOOK I GOT A GUILTY, I GUESS THAT MAKES SENSE CAUSE I'M A PARANOID COP(I KNOW I WAS NAIVE OR PARANOID AND CAUSE I GOT A GUILTY I MUST HAVE BEEN PARANOID)"

PERSON POSTS IN NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT GETTING A GUILTY

"OH WOW THEY'RE PARANOID COP WELL SHIT WHAT AM I OH I'M NAIVE WOAH WHAT THE FUCK IM NAIVE WITH A GUILTY I SHOULD PROBABLY CLAIM THAT."

*insert your shitty quote wall*

BBmolla · Post Post #930 (isolation #82) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:40 pm

Please tell me this isn't muffin talking, I don't think I've ever experience muffin being remotely this dense.

BBmolla · Post Post #937 (isolation #83) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:02 pm

In post 933, Diabolik wrote:But the question is,why would you check some one on the "cop team" if u had day talk( or night talk) you supposed to know.
2) you said u have this QT with 1 or more .. what u mean 1 or more... u don't even know how many people?
the weird thing u claim this after the networker claim and the other cop clim.. so some way the other cop claim should be able to confirm you? and why would you know about his insanity but don't know who is him? wha ti is the reason to check her in first place? u speak of this Qt how if is full of people.. "they said to me i checked one of the cops"...but u say its with 1 or more people.. the first thing to know should be who is there so u don't check them and u don't suspect them?i mean.. this is all weird..

Because I thought it'd be fun to check someone in my neighborhood, assuming my ability is useless anyway.

I

know how many people are in the neighborhood, you ever consider I may not want to tell Mafia everything? Especially when who is in my neighborhood isn't particularly relevent atm? If you can explain why, then sure I'll tell you.

Why would I not suspect people in a neighborhood with me? Neighbors =/= masons.

BBmolla · Post Post #938 (isolation #84) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:03 pm

In post 935, ooba wrote:
In post 934, Mitillos wrote:Not sure I want BB or anyone to make a claim about the number of people in their QT, though. That's not good information to give to scum, I think.
I actually think the reverse i.e. that it's information worth knowing. If there are more than BB and RC in the neighbourhood - say 3 or 4, I'd wager for sure that there's one scum in it.

If it's just the two of them, then it can go either way - if it's 1 scum, 1 town - the scum would be RC since she claimed first in thread and BB's motivations have town reasoning.

Fine, there's two in the neighborhood, a paranoid and naive. We are informed of each other's roles, not each other's alignments.

BBmolla · Post Post #949 (isolation #85) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:08 am

In post 939, Rail Tracer wrote:
bb wrote:"OH WOW THEY'RE PARANOID COP WELL SHIT WHAT AM I OH I'M NAIVE WOAH WHAT THE FUCK IM NAIVE WITH A GUILTY I SHOULD PROBABLY CLAIM THAT."

*insert your shitty quote wall*
first, i don't see why you wouldn't verify with the mod how you could have got a guilty before claiming. instead you claim it in thread first and then ask the mod later... derp derp derp

second, i don't see why you ruled out possibilities other than a "framer". it could have had something to do with RC's role, it could have had something to do with neromollie's role, it could have been any number of fucking things - instead, you automatically assumed some interaction with your role and a scum framer making RC near confirmed town. fucking lol.

First, I assume the result I have gotten is correct no matter what.

Second, Framer is the most obvious and probable possibility with what we were given (See: Day 1's flip). Unless Scum Miller (lol), it pointed to RC being framed, which made sense to me. Couldnt have to do with neromollie's role, I wasn't informed of anything. I considered other possibilities, but I thought no matter what I should out it.

Stop wasting my time on this, fucking read everything I've posted three times over and if you still can't comprehend the simplicity of the situation, THEN you can ask.

BBmolla · Post Post #950 (isolation #86) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:10 am

In post 934, Mitillos wrote:I'm still thinking mnemonic-scum.

He's certainly on the same level of uselessness as MuM, but I have no idea if that means scum for either of them.

BBmolla · Post Post #952 (isolation #87) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:20 am

^Point proven.

BBmolla · Post Post #956 (isolation #88) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:58 am

In post 953, Mitillos wrote:@BB: And yet you're voting one of them. Specifically, the one who produced slightly more content, of the two.

*shrug*

I'm still all for lynching them, I'm never going to get a good read on them and they're just going to mishammer me in LYLO.

My read on them is scummy, but as I said, no idea if it's just that they play exactly to how I consider scum to play or what.

BBmolla · Post Post #958 (isolation #89) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:43 am

I feel fairly good about RC atm.

BBmolla · Post Post #967 (isolation #90) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:18 pm

In post 964, Luna Lovegood wrote:I'm asking the mod to confirm BB's claim because if the mod made an error and caught it midday, I expect the moderator to publicly acknowledge that they made a mistake. Having to explain a flop on a result because of mod error is far more unfair than confirming that you made a mistake. Molla could be a scum naive cop with an incorrect result and he certainly should not have to talk his way out of that as scum.

That'd confirm my role dude. I recieved a PM telling me about the error, but,

my neighborhood was informed about the error as well.

I doubt the mod will confirm in thread.

BBmolla · Post Post #987 (isolation #91) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:36 pm

In post 985, DeasVail wrote:BBmolla, how has RC's neighbourhood posting compared with his thread posting?

He's been literally silent today, I asked him what he thought about me getting a guilty on him and then last post has been mod saying it was an error.

BBmolla · Post Post #988 (isolation #92) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:36 pm

In post 985, DeasVail wrote:BBmolla, how has RC's neighbourhood posting compared with his thread posting?

He's been literally silent today, I asked him what he thought about me getting a guilty on him and then last post has been mod saying it was an error.

BBmolla · Post Post #992 (isolation #93) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:10 pm

Why RC?

At least confirm the mod error for me.

BBmolla · Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:05 am

Oh btw, RC said I was scum yesterday because she though the role dopog claimed was bastard and thus a lie. He then went on to explain that the reason dopog specified sane cop in his fake claim was because I was naive and his buddy.

After that theory was proven 100% wrong, I don't know why RC still thinks I'm scum.

BBmolla · Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:12 am

In post 1000, Luna Lovegood wrote: Why didn't you this question when you first received the investigation?
Why didn't you confirm that the result was correct immediately?

Because I assumed it was a framer. It just made most sense to me. Only when people started going "No, sanity always triumphs over framer shit!" did I go "Okay, one way to resolve this.
Because I assumed it was. That would have been a fucking ENORMOUS mod error and I assumed that it was a wierd but correct result, not a mod error.

In post 1000, Luna Lovegood wrote:Why did you assume it wasn't a mod error?

Vote: BBMolla

I think I want to go here for a moment because I don't buy the way he's been reacting to the mod error because he doesn't actually seem at all frustrated about it and not questioning a guilty result as a naive cop is weird as hell.

Having it be a mod error means things makes more sense and there's less guesswork I have to do. I did question what the result meant, hence asking in my neighborhood and in thread. I trust my mods enough to not make mistakes like that.

In post 1001, Luna Lovegood wrote:Timing of "oh. this is a mod error." is also pretty shitty because it comes a minute after another post he made; seems strange that he would make a post, check QT, makes another post. It also seems weird that N didn't PM him and instead posted in the QT even though posting in the QT confirms his error to RC.

Made a post, inbox had one message, read it, "MOD ERROR!", "oh, awkward, it was error", look in QT, "it was an error."

Recieved both dood.

BBmolla · Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:13 am

Nach, if you think I'm scum fine, but I'm not going to fake a mod error. I'm better than that dude.

BBmolla · Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:06 am

In post 1029, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yes, we have daytalk.

Until either me or BB gets lynched, all I'm doing is prod dodging. He needs rope.

Yknow, if you wanted me lynched you could provide some reasons, otherwise I doubt people will go that route dood.

BBmolla · Post Post #1042 (isolation #98) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:43 pm

In post 1035, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1013, BBmolla wrote:
In post 1000, Luna Lovegood wrote: Why didn't you this question when you first received the investigation?
Why didn't you confirm that the result was correct immediately?
Because I assumed it was a framer. It just made most sense to me. Only when people started going "No, sanity always triumphs over framer shit!" did I go "Okay, one way to resolve this.
Because I assumed it was. That would have been a fucking ENORMOUS mod error and I assumed that it was a wierd but correct result, not a mod error.

In post 1000, Luna Lovegood wrote:Why did you assume it wasn't a mod error?

Vote: BBMolla

I think I want to go here for a moment because I don't buy the way he's been reacting to the mod error because he doesn't actually seem at all frustrated about it and not questioning a guilty result as a naive cop is weird as hell.
Having it be a mod error means things makes more sense and there's less guesswork I have to do. I did question what the result meant, hence asking in my neighborhood and in thread. I trust my mods enough to not make mistakes like that.

In post 1001, Luna Lovegood wrote:Timing of "oh. this is a mod error." is also pretty shitty because it comes a minute after another post he made; seems strange that he would make a post, check QT, makes another post. It also seems weird that N didn't PM him and instead posted in the QT even though posting in the QT confirms his error to RC.
Made a post, inbox had one message, read it, "MOD ERROR!", "oh, awkward, it was error", look in QT, "it was an error."

Recieved both dood.
If your fishing for a modkill, then just post your role PM and get it over with.

Otherwise, let it go and either we think it's true or we don't.

?????????????????

So I just ignore questions asked to me about it?

Like why are you yelling at me and not the people probing me about it?

BBmolla · Post Post #1086 (isolation #99) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:11 pm

^Only you can do that my friend.

BBmolla · Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:44 am

In post 1090, Mitillos wrote:Did he scumslip in your QT, in any way?

I did, I greeted myself and said I was scum. Then next posted "town*."

BBmolla · Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:46 am

=21695]I like the current mandemaonci wagon, but is there any reason we aren't lynching this?

BBmolla · Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:53 am

In post 1101, Mitillos wrote:@BB: Except you're voting Metal (I don't seem to remember your case on him; better re-read your ISO), so, why exactly are you asking for votes on Nani?

Oh yeah.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Nani

I was just seeing if there was a claim or some shit I missed.

BBmolla · Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:54 am

For the record, I don't hate a mmnemnic device lynch, he's just a vig target anyway.

BBmolla · Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:07 am

Ooba the last 5 miller claims I've played with have been scum, like 3 were by me. I assumed he was fake claiming miller, and then he had shitty posts combined with that so I thought he was scum.

Then I realized with a cop sanity setup having millers would make sense and unvoted.

Ooba if the mod accidentally told you an incorrect result and people lynched you for it, would that not make you upset?

BBmolla · Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:08 am

Also different logic =/= scum logic. I'm sorry that my mechanical thoughts on framer/sanity interactions aren't the same as yours.

BBmolla · Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:09 am

Your reasoning seems really contrived btw

BBmolla · Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:02 am

BBmolla · Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:06 pm

In post 1135, ooba wrote:Well, it would upset me a whole lot more when I was scum rather than town.

That's retarded.

BBmolla · Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:08 pm

Are we just pretending mafia don't have any power to possibly counter that?

What if they have a framer and a godfather?

BBmolla · Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:04 am

In post 1176, ooba wrote:If there's a Vig, please take care of BBM.

Yeah, vig a claimed cop for Ooba.

BBmolla · Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:33 am

...With normalizing power roles in the game.

BBmolla · Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:43 pm

...

Like PV claimed normalizer and I'm naive have people not realized this shit?

BBmolla · Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:23 pm

In post 831, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 802, Rail Tracer wrote:hmm

@PV

if you have no information to verify yourself today, in your first post, i want you to declare the first and last letters of each word in your role, as well as how many letters there are in each word.

e.g. if you had dopog's role, you'd put N _ _- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ e N _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ r

i'll consider refusal to do this a scum claim, since if you are town it shouldn't give scum any additional information, and if you're scum, i want to limit your fake-claims as much as possible.
I think I was N-blocked, so only one person can confrim anything. If no one can confirm it, I was indeed blocked.

As for the rolename? Sure.

N_ _ _ _e N_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _r

...

BBmolla · Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:29 pm

nvm I miscounted

BBmolla · Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:36 pm

In post 1192, Rail Tracer wrote:i think you're downplaying the reason people actually think you're scum.

If someone called you a Nazi because you have blond hair, would you take them seriously

BBmolla · Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:40 pm

The accusations are summed up to "You got upset when people were voting you for a mod error! I think you got MORE upset than you would have as town."

There's no response to that. Like, normally I have meta to back myself up when people say stupid shit, but I haven't exactly dealt with a shit ton of mod errors.

I've been completely honest, there isn't much else I can do. If I wanted it to "make more sense" or whatever I'd have done so as scum. But I'm not scum, so I'm just giving the blatant truth. There isn't much else I can do.

BBmolla · Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:52 am

In post 1196, Rail Tracer wrote:no, that's not really what people are saying about you (maybe that's
partially
why ooba thinks you're scum, but nobody else seems to be pushing that).

Then what is it because I'm clearly not following

BBmolla · Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:52 am

In post 1196, Rail Tracer wrote:no, that's not really what people are saying about you (maybe that's
partially
why ooba thinks you're scum, but nobody else seems to be pushing that).

Then what is it because I'm clearly not following

BBmolla · Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:29 pm

In post 1214, Kmd4390 wrote:Ok, there's the normalizer thing explained. BB, why were you trying to guess Pere's role?

Because I thought he was claiming he was the same as the example, but being obnoxious about it. But I misread.

BBmolla · Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:34 pm

inno on ooba

helpful I know

BBmolla · Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:44 pm

Last night I told him he's gonna feel bad when we both flip town, that's about all that's been in there.

BBmolla · Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:10 am

I think RC's behavior and setupwise it makes more sense if we're both town.

BBmolla · Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:54 pm

In post 1255, Luna Lovegood wrote:
In post 1250, BBmolla wrote:I think RC's behavior and setupwise it makes more sense if we're both town.
keep goin

In post 778, RadiantCowbells wrote:That's pretty bastard.

Also, lynch BBmolla tomorrow.

VOTE: Dopog

In post 782, RadiantCowbells wrote:This deserves further discussion since dopog's last post looked town after being hammered.

-If Dopog flips scum, you are lynching BBMolla tomorrow no matter what end story thanks bye.
-If Dopog flips town, then the following is redacted.

In post 785, RadiantCowbells wrote:Also, after BB if Dopog is scum then I'd look at Dante.

Finally, please just do what I said if I die tonight. If I don't die tonight, I can fill in my reasons.

^I find it highly unlikely RC would pull this crap as scum and more likely his strong stances are indicative of him being town.

He called me scum because he believed that the town claim from day 1 was a fake claim cause it was "bastard" and specified sane cop, meaning I was the partner because I "knew to specify that." This is not RC trying to vote me for a bullshit reason, this is RC legitimately trying to read the game and outguess the game.

I donno if this makes any sense, I think RC's reasoning is a whole hell of a lot more likely to come from town.

I also think the odds of a mod making two neighbor cops not town is low personally, especially with what we've been given. Town, as far as I can tell at the moment, doesn't really have jack shit, and I feel more than likely us and our non-sanity was central to the setup. To accidentally normalize a scum cop and then to have him claim and be confirmed as so by his neighbor... seems extremely detrimental to the town.

BBmolla · Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:47 am

I'm behind. I'll try to get some reads.

I'd sheep Luna, but the players in there are sort of disappointing me readwise so far.

BBmolla · Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:55 pm

I'll give them a read tonight and consider that.

BBmolla · Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:13 pm

Luna, why did your townread of me lessen before the mod error?

Don't remember why I liked Dante, dislike him on reread. Bleh.

I like DV for town

SP is town

RT is town

Pb town

BBmolla · Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:26 am

VOTE: Mitillos

BBmolla · Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:42 am

I wish it was a Me/Luna pairing, that'd be awesome.

BBmolla · Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:52 am

^I would be down with that.

BBmolla · Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:01 am

Get more signatures on the petition to lynch him and sure

BBmolla · Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:10 pm

^PGO claim

BBmolla · Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:00 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Luna

BBmolla · Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:37 pm

Okay let's look back, why did I think my claim was possibly legit? Because I thought framer triumped sanity.

So I would think Miller would have the same effect.

So obviously I would think that would work within this setup of cop misdirection and different sanities.

BBmolla · Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:37 pm

Not my claim, my night result.

BBmolla · Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:26 pm

In post 1365, Mitillos wrote:Your naive result would somehow be fixed by a Miller? Not seeing this. Can you explain? What exactly would you do, what would SK do (if he were a Miller) and how would this make your investigations go from naive to sane?

It wouldn't make me sane. But I figured the "results show up as guilty" would triumph over the "results are always innocent."

BBmolla · Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:27 pm

In post 1285, BBmolla wrote:I'd sheep Luna, but the players in there are sort of disappointing me readwise so far.

?

BBmolla · Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:35 am

Luna no lecture on me voting you at all?

BBmolla · Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:42 am

In post 1423, Luna Lovegood wrote:I understand why you're voting me but I'm feeling too lazy to do anything about it. There will be a point in time where I step it up and my true towniness shines through, but I'm not feeling it at the moment.

Okay cool

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mtillos

BBmolla · Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:54 am

Nani slot is probably scum Rail. So by default KMD is probably scum. I mean what is this shit ^

BBmolla · Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:55 am

I'm gonna start trying to be a part of this game now.

BBmolla · Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:56 am

I'd say flashwagon KMD but it won't happen, so just wait till tomorrow.

BBmolla · Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:57 am

And for why I haven't said shit before either
A. I'm out of it
B. I'm scum
C. I'm out of it

BBmolla · Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:01 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: kmd

BBmolla · Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:14 pm

Oi, PM says Naive Non-com Neighbor, then says in common terms Naive Cop.

...I know that sounds shitty at this point, but in our Neighbor QT it says Paranoid Cop and Naive Cop, not our "actual" names.

BBmolla · Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:15 pm

Also RC might actually be scum, if they believed I was scum I'd expect to have seen something more by now rather than 20 posts of "BB is scum, lynch him."

BBmolla · Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:25 pm

Wouldn't it be better to just show people why I'm scum instead of sacrificing yourself uselessly?

BBmolla · Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:12 pm

VOTE: Luna

BBmolla · Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:13 pm

This game is going poorly. If Nach was town I feel like he'd have "WHELP let's stop fucking around, here's the deal"'d by now.

BBmolla · Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:18 am

Ooba inno n2, RT inno n3

BBmolla · Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:35 am

In post 797, N wrote:dopog has been lynched.
He was a
Non-Negotiable Namecaller
, Compulsive Framer,
Nice

You are a
Non-Negotiable Namecaller

(in other words: a
Compulsive Framer
)
.
This means that you must target one player each night to frame. If that player is investigated by a Sane Cop, their result will be reversed. Failure to submit a target will mean you die during the night.

Deas was almost assuredly a red herring imo.

Unless you think Me or RC could be turned into normal cops, only to be still be secretly naive.

Not impossible but unlikely

BBmolla · Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:47 am

Aloud.

BBmolla · Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:49 am

Your role was probably just to fuck with people.

BBmolla · Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:42 pm

I gotta be honest, I don't know what crumb you're referring to.

BBmolla · Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:55 pm

Oh

Forgot about that

Yes. That did happen.

And I know it looks bad that I didn't remember that, but for the past few days you've just been super town. I haven't even thought about it.

BBmolla · Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:16 am

In post 1602, ooba wrote:I again come to the point that 2 Cops + Normalizer seem overpowered

How is it overpowered in a closed setup where we assume mass claiming would be unbeneficial? AND there is a compulsive framer?

I don't think there are five scum fwiw, fairly certain numbers wise makes more sense for 4.

BBmolla · Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:19 am

Nurse is commonly known as Backup Doc, I think that's a pretty moot point.

BBmolla · Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:21 am

Also, the non-normalizable roles probably have a higher chance to be scum than obviously normalizable.

Which is why Mit's claim is awkward, because a backup doc isn't non-normal, it's just... you know, a backup.

BBmolla · Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:39 am

Ooooooooooh.

Yeah missed that part.

Varsoon's role stresses me out.

BBmolla · Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:42 pm

In post 1647, ooba wrote:#198 - @BBM: "Revelations have me believing SK's role for the moment." - what revelations were these?

Assumed he was a miller, and a miller made sense with me and RC as it would indicate a setup revolving around cop sanities.

I know that seems far fetched now, but it's what I thought at the time.

BBmolla · Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:25 pm

In post 1653, Rail Tracer wrote:also pretty sure bb is town. don't be scum, bb. it would sadden me more than i am already saddened this game.

I'm not. So just imagine how frustrating it is to have a neighborhood with RC who is absolutely convinced I am.

BBmolla · Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:42 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Peacebringer

BBmolla · Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:27 pm

UNVOTE:

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:43 pm

Desp you sure about Peace?

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:51 pm

Not you or Desp.

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:07 pm

I've never seen someone so convinced I was scum for so long for no reason.

BUT, it's RC.

So they're probably town? I guess?

I kind of expect Majiffy to be more "FOLLOW ME CHUMS" and he's just kind of there. But the game he was like that he was scum, plus the two people in the slot before him seemed town.

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:07 pm

I kind of just want to lynch Varsoon cause if we lynch town today and he's town we lose

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:36 pm

Bleh

I'll try too.

Try.

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:19 pm

I don't remember. Seems like a filler question so I'm not going to bother.

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:44 pm

At some point he clarified making obvious he wasn't. My read at that point didn't change much iirc.

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:18 pm

Ill find it after I pick up my girlfriend.

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:46 pm

Titus go look at our QT

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:15 pm

In post 1334, Majiffy wrote:
In post 1331, Rail Tracer wrote:majiffy - PR, something negative utility
I don't personally think my role is negative utility but I suppose it could be argued either way / depends what kind of a player you are.

In post 1335, BBmolla wrote:^PGO claim

@mit

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:28 pm

*shrug*

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:29 pm

In post 755, Diabolik wrote:1st u still speaking about SK "claim" when i am pretty sure no one knows , not even me, what my role is.
2nd I am not miler i investigated innocent.
3rd i don't hurt town at all
4rd i am not even a pr actually... well the only useful part of my"ability " doesn't work so no.
5 we can say i have a passive night action.

You're omgusing everyone who fos u now.. i don't know if i will take it as a scum tell.Most of times omgus is a towntell unless IT obv.

question dante: Do you think DOg being v/la not able to claim or defend himself if the best ynch today?Cause to me looks a Bw on town ... i could still be wrong.. but kill the guy when he is sleeping is fishy.

Btw 4 people are not here at day end, So today sucks i am not sure we should lynch in them but sure it convenient to be v/la last 3/4 days i mean to fly low.

In post 756, BBmolla wrote:Oh gotcha, you're a lover and scum should target you. Got it.

^Found it, that's why

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:30 pm

nt though

BBmolla · Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:57 pm

I figured why not investigate my cop buddy

BBmolla · Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:39 pm

I tried and failed

Meaning I forgot

BBmolla · Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:40 pm

Titus brought a nice spark to the game at least.

BBmolla · Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:11 am

In post 1862, Shadowy Poison wrote:MOLLA I LOVE YOU

<3

BBmolla · Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:33 pm

Nacho, getting replaced is normally a bad sign for you

BBmolla · Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:33 pm

Wait, you're protecting a scumread?

BBmolla · Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:23 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Dante

BBmolla · Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:37 am

UNVOTE:

Hold on this wagon blows

BBmolla · Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:37 am

Rail Tracer and Shadowy Poison you need to vote someone so I can sheep you

BBmolla · Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:37 am

People on it.

Cause I have an iffy read on Dante to the point where he's one of the scummiest.

BBmolla · Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:41 am

I could do a Luna lynch.

BBmolla · Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:02 am

Cause he's probably scum.

I would be willing to hammer Dante as well.

BBmolla · Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:04 pm

I meant cause he, Nacho, is probably scum

BBmolla · Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:35 pm

In post 2010, N wrote:With 9 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

@mod: please confirm this is accurate

BBmolla · Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:37 pm

Nacho when you get back can we chat?

BBmolla · Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:36 pm

I know he is, but I don't see why him being double voter would affect the votecount.

How I see the "needed to lynch" is the amount of players + 1. Doesnt matter if everyone is a double voter, that doesn't change the needed to lynch number. It makes the double voter fucking pointless.

If I asked it before, that's why. It's silly.

BBmolla · Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:37 pm

What that means is our worry about MYLO or whatever is all for nought.

If it's Varsoon, X, and Y, it's 3 to lynch, which normally would make Varsoon unlynchable but he's hated.

BBmolla · Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:19 pm

In post 2018, Mitillos wrote:... We went through all this on D4. He adds an extra vote. Instead of 9 votes, there are 10. A majority on 10 votes is 6 or more. The number of people is irrelevant to calculating a majority. This is how most voting systems work, when someone has more votes than someone else (e.g the EU council, before the Treaty of Nice in 2003).
Also, it doesn't make the double voter pointless. It means that any wagon that he's not related with, requires one more person on it, than normal. Whereas the wagons he is on or that are on him need the same number of people as they otherwise would.

Meh.

It's still silly as fuck.

BBmolla · Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:20 pm

Titus what's your guess for scumteam atm?

BBmolla · Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:56 pm

VOTE: Mit

why is SP alive?

BBmolla · Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:19 pm

What? SP is town, I've made that clear as day.

BBmolla · Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:07 pm

Except that's clearly not what was happening at all

I'm guessing by your logic SP is setting himself up for a mislynch tomorrow as well?

BBmolla · Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:43 am

Nice try SP

I'm guessing ooba/Peace but I'm not sure, I'll look when it's not 5:43 and I have a paper due in 2 and a half hours

BBmolla · Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:21 am