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Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:51 pm

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Not Voting: Coron, Quagmire, Thok, Mastermind of Sin, Save The Dragons, mystery meat of doom, PookyTheMagicalBear, spectrumvoid

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Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:58 pm

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feel free to contribute, pooky. That'd be a change.

Gah, I need to reread this game eventually :/
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Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:02 pm

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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:yoooooo do we have any plans?

if not, can I propose one?
I'm leaning towards going after Quagmire, but feel free to say your plan.
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Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:12 pm

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I wouldn't mind a Quagmire lynch, but I'd like a chance to reread to confirm this.
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Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:42 pm

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everyone take the person below them on the list of names.

read through all of their posts in the game, not a pbpa, but an important point by point analysis, comment on everything that person has said so far of content. Say if there is anything missing that would seem suspicious and what not.

I suggest printing this stuff out and reading carefully in a garden or stressfree environment.

Summarize your findings for us in a post.

For Example, Coron would be doing Quagmire.
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Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:59 am

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I'll buy. I pick Fuldu.
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Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:32 am

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Sorry about no-post, no excuses.

I like this idea. It might take me til weekend to finish because of university, so be patient please.

I'm doing Pooky then?
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Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:58 am

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we're not analyzing dead people
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SV you'd be doing Coron.
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Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:06 am

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Looks like I've got STD.
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Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:15 am

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Ok...I guess we aren't replacing then. Works for me.
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Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:40 am

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I know this wasn't supposed to be a PBPA, but this is more notes for myself, so ignore if you want and go to the bottom of this post.


STD's first serious post does a pretty good analysis of several players in the game, calling out Cesspit and Mathcam as scum, with Pooky and SV to a lesser degree, and Yos/Ibae as confusing scumtownies. He brings up a decent point about Yos in this post, but since Yos was town, I guess it really didn't mean much.

He votes Cesspit a few posts later.

I'm confused by his argument against Mathcam, but he was protown, too, so I guess that one was wrong anyways.

Unvotes Cesspit, no reason why. Quotes a couple of my posts with a "?" after them, I don't know what he was getting at with that.

Asks me some questions about Cesspit, then asks me another question that I didn't understand and asked for some context about.

Ignores my request and moves on to vote MMoD when it's pointed out that he keeps saying he'll reread but never does.

Goes back to Cesspit, no reason given.

FoS's Pooky, no reason given

FoS's HP, gives some sort of reason, I'd have to read in context to understand it.

Willing to vote Cesspit and MMoD

Responds to my argument with MBL, where I asked someone else to field his post for me, but since he's not convinced of MBL's scumminess, he won't. Wonders why I didn't respond to him FoSing Pooky.

Wonders why I reacted to his Pooky FoS after he pointed it out. (I explained that I didn't think the FoS meant anything, so there was nothing to respond to, but then he said that it meant something about me that I didn't say anything in response to a baseless FoS, so I responded to him asking what he was expecting)

Unvotes (confused)

Votes for Fuldu, no reason given

Doesn't like Pooky appealing to emotion

Further response to me about the Pooky issue. (I don't know why STD was expecting me in specific to respond to the FoS: Pooky, but apparently that's what he wanted to see)

More discussion about the Pooky issue

Not seeing MBL as scum

Makes a kill/no kill list:
Kill - armlx (Protown), Uraj (Protown), Coron (Alive), Fuldu (Scum), H_P (Alive (Quagmire)), MBL (Protown), MMoD (Alive), Pooky (Alive), mathcam (Protown), Oberon (Protown)
No Kill - ibaesha (Alive (Thok)), Mastermind of Sin (Alive), Save The Dragons (Alive), spectrumvoid (Alive), Yosarian2 (Protown)
Gives reasons for putting people on the list.

Forgot reason for voting Fuldu, unvotes

Confused

Thinks MBL is town, slowly becoming more suspicious of Mathcam (I like his analogy)

Points out that SV blocking MBL and Mathcam doesn't clear them, asks when SV blocked them. FoSes SV, close to voting SV

Equally split between voting Fuldu, SV, and Uraj

Votes SV

Unvotes, Votes Fuldu

Votes Uraj for metagaming this late in the game (This is where the money for dragon preservation starts, in case you care)

Wants Uraj to be lynched, thinks MoS is scum

Asks questions and reads thread to answer them

Still wants Uraj dead.

Wants his old office back.

Nothing in his new office. Wants back in Jack Phillips' Office



Analysis/Questioning of STD begins here:

Unvotes Cesspit, no reason why. Quotes a couple of my posts with a "?" after them, I don't know what he was getting at with that.

Asks me some questions about Cesspit, then asks me another question that I didn't understand and asked for some context about.

Ignores my request and moves on to vote MMoD when it's pointed out that he keeps saying he'll reread but never does.

Goes back to Cesspit, no reason given.
I would like an explanation of this, both the lack of reason for unvoting and revoting Cesspit, plus the ignoring my clarification request when you had apparently unvoted Cesspit based off something I said/did, then moving straight to MMoD and disregarding the whole thing with Cesspit.

I'm still confused somewhat by the whole FoS Pooky thing, but I think I kinda see where STD was coming from, so I guess that's fine. I think it was mostly miscommunication between us, anyways.

I'd like to hear what STD has to say about Coron, Quagmire, MMoD, and Pooky (those four in particular).

I also want to know why STD went from saying that he felt I was genuine and shouldn't be lynched, then was stating I was scum while wanting Uraj lynched, but today, the only posts he's made have been about his new office and wanting his old one back. If you really think I'm scum, why haven't you voted me or presented reasoning to get me lynched, since your #1 suspect, Uraj, was lynched yesterday?

Also, why has SV bounced around in your suspicion list? You had her on your no kill list, but then you wanted to lynch her, Fuldu, and Uraj equally, and even voted her. Then, yesterday, you went after Uraj and mentioned that I was scum, but never even talked about SV at all.
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Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:09 pm

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Also, my reread of STD caused me to go look at MMoD's posts, and I'd like him to post some pretty good content soon, or I'd be willing to put him on the chopping block.

The same goes for Pooky, who had 42 posts between June 21st and Oct 31st (4 months), but only 11 posts since then (another 4 months).
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Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:45 pm

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I'l do Coron. Later.
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Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:44 pm

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MoS, you're a fast one.

I shall take care of MMoD.

MMoD has posted 37 times. Here are important tidbits.

Post 2: Joins viper wagon (scum, last known as bluemonick) because he's annoying
Post 4: Switches to Borge (town), for reasons stated by others. Calls Spamwise (town, last known as Mathcam) out for saying Viperwagon stalled because scumbuddies are on it...interesting.
Post 5: Asks for a claim 3 hours after voting
Post 7: Votes TSS(SK) for attacking Colonel Kurtz (Uraj, protown) for his attack on lordy (protown) for appearing to claim a pro-town role. MMoD states that it seems CK's talking about a mafia role.
Post 8: Points out that lordy did not actually claim a role to armlx (AKA pablito, protown).
Post 9: During the bluemonick wagon, votes for Masterchief (Protown, inhimshallIbe) for MC's bad logic.
Post 10: States why a role swapping office is probably pro-town.
Post 11: States he believes alignments came with offices, but abilities can switch.
Next 4 posts: "I'm going to reread"
Post 17: Mentions suspicion on Yosarian(protown) for derailing viperwagon (scum) on D1 for mlaker (Borge, pro-town). Suspicious of MBL (protown) and Harry_Potter (Quagmire, alive) as well.
Post 18: Response to MoS (alive), answers with a "i dunno," about Cesspit (mathcam, pro-town). Call's pooky (alive) lurking.
Post 22: Claims roleswitcher
Post 23: Reconsiders claim
Post 24: Clarifies claim
Post 25: Pimps claim
Post 27: Claimed to move Yos.
Post 28: Defends moving people every night.
Post 29: Suspicious of SV (alive) for involvement in matchcam wagon (protown)
Post 30: Votes for SV (alive).
Post 31: "WTF did we just lose?"
Post 32: Tries to switch SV(alive) to Jack Kay's office...isn't this another office switcher? Said uber-switcher overrided him, although Spectrumvoid
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Post 34: Reveals Jack Zimmerman's (CES, protown) office as uberswitcher, supports Uraj (protown) lynch.
Post 35: Explains a "WTF did we just lose?" post earlier...I'm not 100% I buy this as genuine.
Post 37: Suggest moving someone into the cop office.

Good Points:
* The "WTF did we just lose?" seems genuine, like he actually saw scum talking about the game being won. It's a little sketchy, but I think I can buy it. It's a wierd thing for scum to do.

*Posts logical points, at least gives a mild explaination for his votes.


Bad Points:
* Jumps off of viper wagon to join the Borgewagon

* Accuses Yosarian of derailing the viper wagon. Yosarian was never on the viper wagon, and MMoD jumped off of it to join Yos's wagon.

*Barely any of his own analysis, it mostly relies on other people's arguements and agreeing with them.

*Joins SV wagon when it picks up steam


Neutral Points:
* Pimps claim out to anyone.

* Says that SV was switched by the uberswitcher and not him, even though SV went into the office he stated.

I probably would not be opposed to lynching MMoD; I am not satisfied with his play. However, I want to see how other people look, since I'm not quite ready to condemn MMoD yet.

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Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:59 pm

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Need time to respond to MoS's post, dont have it now. Sorry, all.

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Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:50 pm

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I would've posted mine earlier but I had to leave for a bit while I was working on it.
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Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:02 am

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About halfway through (Coron):
Some irrelevant discussion in the beginning
votes spamwise, says spamwise is obvious scum multiple times.
foses zu_faul to contribute.
Discussion about game mechanics.
Says he's a lurker.
Vote MoS, Foses Ibby, mathcam
Defends his lurking using metagaming. Minor Foses Uraj for his response.
Says he got lurker pressure after he stopped lurking.

The only thing I've gotten so far is he makes accusations without any reason whatsoever.
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Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:03 am

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Must've misread SV's office on the day the super-switch happened and subsequently not realize that SV was in Jack Kay's office even though he did say he could switch, I just didn't connect the dots at all or simply thought he was in the other office-switching office, can't remember.

I did try to switch SV into Jack Kay's office. I retract my previous statement and will now say that I don't know if my ability was overriden or not.
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Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:29 pm

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Whoo for backpedaling!


(Don't read this as a serious statement, I just couldn't resist. I haven't actually thought through whether or not the above statement is something that should really be called backpedaling, that was just my first thought when I read it)
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Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:24 pm

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Announcement: On Saturday, I'm heading off to Mexico for three weeks of practice teaching, followed by a week of vacation. I don't expect I'll be accessing Scum during this time, so Pie will be modding this game while I'm gone. He has all my notes, so any necessary replacing can take place, and lynches and nights will proceed as normal. I will be back April 5.
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Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:25 pm

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Have fun, Yaw!
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Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:50 am

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Will Pie pay for dragon preservation in your stead?

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Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:57 am

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MoS -- Thank you! :)

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Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:52 am

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have a good time, yaw! thanks for taking over during my absence.
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Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:20 am

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Wha?
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