A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Tammy]

Cephrir - in your reads list, you have me listed as null with the reasoning being that I'm not scum hunting. If I'm not scum hunting, why do you have me as a null read and not a scum read?

-cant quote cuz on phone at work but this just struck me and I didn't want to forget to ask.

You're not doing anything scummy either, you just aren't doing anything at all. That said, it's beginning to annoy me that you don't sound like Cait Sith.

Ouch. I'm not doing nothing though. It's day one of a large with several loud Wally people, which takes me a little longer and more than one reading to parse through. I'm pretty adaptive and tend to be more observant in these types of situations. I'm not going to add my loud voice for no purpose whatsoever when there are enough button pushers around unless something strikes me. Ill get there, it just might not be today. Besides, I pretty much spent all my mafia energy trying to get you not to lynch me in lylo the past couple days. That's draining, and I need to reset. Besides, as I recall cait sith was annoying the fuck out of you lately, are you sure you're annoyed I don't sound like myself from that game

[AGar]

ooba unsure, sd town, kanye town, benmage unsure, zden unsure

do you want an expansion of reasons why

I mean...

You don't have reads on a player who's one of the four seemingly serious wagons and one of the most outspoken players in the game, and it's been going for a bit under a week (not sure how long the outage was for as it didn't actually impact me at all). How is that even possible? There's 47 pages of content (or a lack thereof, in some cases). This isn't exactly difficult to form some opinions.

[Cephrir]

Cephrir - in your reads list, you have me listed as null with the reasoning being that I'm not scum hunting. If I'm not scum hunting, why do you have me as a null read and not a scum read?

-cant quote cuz on phone at work but this just struck me and I didn't want to forget to ask.

You're not doing anything scummy either, you just aren't doing anything at all. That said, it's beginning to annoy me that you don't sound like Cait Sith.

Ouch. I'm not doing nothing though. It's day one of a large with several loud Wally people, which takes me a little longer and more than one reading to parse through. I'm pretty adaptive and tend to be more observant in these types of situations. I'm not going to add my loud voice for no purpose whatsoever when there are enough button pushers around unless something strikes me. Ill get there, it just might not be today. Besides, I pretty much spent all my mafia energy trying to get you not to lynch me in lylo the past couple days. That's draining, and I need to reset. Besides, as I recall cait sith was annoying the fuck out of you lately, are you sure you're annoyed I don't sound like myself from that game

I want Day 2-3 Cait Sith not LyLo Cait Sith

But yeah, you can have time.

[macmollie]

quadz vote = mac

DENIED

amrun vote = mac?

DENIED

#470 = mac

DENIED

#568 = mac

DENIED

I miss him
I wanna chat with him. Can you bring him out to play too?

DENIED

0/4 correct you cut me deep nacho

[Zdenek]

I still don't like Zdenek.

Quadz testing the waters.

Kanye can die for refusing to answer my question about his take on Benmage.

[Zdenek]

Borden, tell me about your read on me?

[quadz08]

Zdenek, there is a significant lack of voting-kanye in that post where you say he can die

[Shadoweh]

he was scum you dummy
we were freaking

scummates

reading comprehension is a

thing

yanno as in you have to actually read it
tammy, naut, no. this freaking cannot be town syrlacious.

tbf, "not differentiating" between scum and null reads is stupid at the very best.
that said, this post came from town

stupid does not equal scummy.
someone was once kind to me in a game when I really needed it. he isn't going to learn how to get better if people don't give him a chance or teach him how to play better.
w/e you guys do what you want I guess I am stupid for wanting to lynch scum. mebbe I missed the memo that we were supposed to follow a different agenda

I think I know what it is about your posts that bugs me in general, spacing everything out to make the posts look bigger was something I did as scum, it doesn't make the post easier to read you know. <_< This is really confusing though, what are you talking about and what does it have to do with syr being scum? I don't mean him confusing your scumbuddy for being town, I mean the random line about 'someone was kind to me once' followed by you already giving up on lynching scum (even though your thor wagon is proceeding semi-decently?) I mean would you be convinced by your own posts to vote syr?

[Tammy]

That's just her posting style

[macmollie]

ooba unsure, sd town, kanye town, benmage unsure, zden unsure

do you want an expansion of reasons why

I mean...

You don't have reads on a player who's one of the four seemingly serious wagons and one of the most outspoken players in the game, and it's been going for a bit under a week (not sure how long the outage was for as it didn't actually impact me at all). How is that even possible? There's 47 pages of content (or a lack thereof, in some cases). This isn't exactly difficult to form some opinions.

I assume you are talking about ooba person who your vote is on?

no I do not

I don't have any completed games with him so he is not a voice inside my head. I did not like his list of reads but that is mostly cos we were not on it. but do you know what is weird with your angle here? on 1 hand you are bitching at me cos I don't have a read on a player and then you go and say "there are 47 pages of content!" as if the 2 correlated when they are mutually exclusive. it is almost like you are trying to subtly and insidiously imply that we do not have reads period. but

surely

you wouldn't do that...would you? cos that is what scum would do. cos I am pretty sure that ooba guy has not posted in all 47 pages which is the only thing that would link the 2 statements together.

[Tammy]

safetydance

when you get in here can you please explain to me what you believed you were achieving with your reads post?

(Everyone else please leave this alone, I'm only interested in his answer)

[macmollie]

he was scum you dummy
we were freaking

scummates

reading comprehension is a

thing

yanno as in you have to actually read it
tammy, naut, no. this freaking cannot be town syrlacious.

tbf, "not differentiating" between scum and null reads is stupid at the very best.
that said, this post came from town

stupid does not equal scummy.
someone was once kind to me in a game when I really needed it. he isn't going to learn how to get better if people don't give him a chance or teach him how to play better.
w/e you guys do what you want I guess I am stupid for wanting to lynch scum. mebbe I missed the memo that we were supposed to follow a different agenda

I think I know what it is about your posts that bugs me in general, spacing everything out to make the posts look bigger was something I did as scum, it doesn't make the post easier to read you know. <_< This is really confusing though, what are you talking about and what does it have to do with syr being scum? I don't mean him confusing your scumbuddy for being town, I mean the random line about 'someone was kind to me once' followed by you already giving up on lynching scum (even though your thor wagon is proceeding semi-decently?) I mean would you be convinced by your own posts to vote syr?

holy cow

you honestly think that I would purposefully space things out to make my posts look....bigger? and that this is an effective scum tactic with this player base and with some1 like nacho whom I have played like 40 games with?

I would do this and...nobody would notice?

I have no words.

[AGar]

ooba unsure, sd town, kanye town, benmage unsure, zden unsure

do you want an expansion of reasons why

I mean...

You don't have reads on a player who's one of the four seemingly serious wagons and one of the most outspoken players in the game, and it's been going for a bit under a week (not sure how long the outage was for as it didn't actually impact me at all). How is that even possible? There's 47 pages of content (or a lack thereof, in some cases). This isn't exactly difficult to form some opinions.

I assume you are talking about ooba person who your vote is on?

no I do not

I don't have any completed games with him so he is not a voice inside my head. I did not like his list of reads but that is mostly cos we were not on it. but do you know what is weird with your angle here? on 1 hand you are bitching at me cos I don't have a read on a player and then you go and say "there are 47 pages of content!" as if the 2 correlated when they are mutually exclusive. it is almost like you are trying to subtly and insidiously imply that we do not have reads period. but

surely

you wouldn't do that...would you? cos that is what scum would do. cos I am pretty sure that ooba guy has not posted in all 47 pages which is the only thing that would link the 2 statements together.

I would expect any player who's invested in this game and interested in seeing correct lynches go through to take the time to actually form an opinion on viable wagons and vocal players. You're going to naturally come to your own reads, but I rolled off 4 players that I would expect most players to have some sort of opinion on either way (and 1 whom I personally wanted to see how some people stand on), and you had opinions on two of them. The fact that some significant action has gone down around them and you have zero opinion on them screams scum to me.

[macmollie]

I would expect any player who's invested in this game and interested in seeing correct lynches go through to take the time to actually form an opinion on viable wagons and vocal players. You're going to naturally come to your own reads, but I rolled off 4 players that I would expect most players to have some sort of opinion on either way (and 1 whom I personally wanted to see how some people stand on), and you had opinions on two of them. The fact that some significant action has gone down around them and you have zero opinion on them screams scum to me.

:/

I have opinions on viable wagons and I have opinions on vocal players?

is there a viable wagon on benmage? I missed that

there are more than the 4 players you listed who have been vocal and who have had bws on them. how are you missing this?

also "unsure" is not a "zero opinion" it usually means I am conflicted about them.

also is this the second or third time you have misrepped my play here I cannot remember

[Messiah Complex]

This is the sort of reasoning that I can get behind, but where did he put down your case?

This seems like something you could have confirmed/denied on your own.

What makes you think that I had a problem with people who didn't join Kanye in "getting the game started."

Hint: I didn't.

Nothing? Pretty sure I didn't say you had a problem with those people, but that you were pushing Goat because he focused on Cephrir over other people who did the same thing when you were one of those people. It was a really roundabout way to say "I don't think not helping kanye get the game out of RVS is scummy." It's even worse because you're wrong.

Peacebringer folding under such little pressure is a problem.

Why?

Kanye,

yep

You should explain this.

I swear to God Kanye. This shouldn't be so difficult.

I still don't like Zdenek.

Quadz testing the waters.

Kanye can die for refusing to answer my question about his take on Benmage.

^Literally Zdenek testing the waters on Kanye immediately after calling quadz out for testing the waters on him.

Well, it's just as unsubstantial as the other vote. Here you go, SyrGod.

VOTE: SafetyDance.

This game is still annoying me, I am collecting quite a few town reads from people, but I am having trouble finding scumreads. And all the wordswordswords are boring. I feel like it's 2008 all over again in this game.

Possibly the worst vote of the game thus far.

@ Syry: Your SD case isn't very good. "There's no indication of thought process or alignment hunting in his ISO" is a pretty hollow accusation at this stage, wouldn't you say?

@ Goat: I didn't like either of your votes on Stup or SafetyDance. Pretty sure I said as much as it was happening. Why didn't that didn't factor into your "WHY US?" routine?

@ mollie: I probably would have voted goat people with you, but won't be joining you on Thor. FF should be putting up a garruk case at some point tonight as well and after that SD vote they put up we might move there. Also Syry is town, just wrong.

- Des

[Eddard Stark]

Alcohol

Day 1, Vc 34

PrideandJoy (1) -

Amrun

ooba (4) -

Alfred Borden, quadz08, PrideandJoy, AGar

StupendousMan (3)-

Tammy, Nautilius, Cephrir

Thor665 (4) -

Benmage, elleheathen, kanyeknowsbest, macmollie

Cephrir (1) -

Shadoweh

Goat on a Raft (1) -

Zdenek

Zdenek (2) -

StupendousMan, Messiah Complex

Garruk Relentless (1) -

SafetyDance

SafetyDance (4) -

Tierce, Syryana, Goat on a Raft, Garruk Relentless

Amrun (1) -

Thor665

Shadoweh (1) -

ooba

Not voting (1)

- displaced

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch

• Deadline Date: 1st of October at 17:05 EDT
  
• Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-10-01 17:05:01)
  
• Thor and Benmage are V/la

Mistakes are not my fault, but the fault of society and alcohol.

Prodding SafetyDance

[Cephrir]

That Garruk case sure is taking a while. Trying to figure out how to bus them properly?

[Alfred Borden]

Empire head here, just got back from the ceremonies and stuff. This is mostly just to avoid the prod. Will post tomorrow.

[Shadoweh]

holy cow
you honestly think that I would purposefully space things out to make my posts look....bigger? and that this is an effective scum tactic with this player base and with some1 like nacho whom I have played like 40 games with?
I would do this and...nobody would notice?
I have no words.

Have you ever considered not doing it? Look at how much nice and smaller it is when you're not pressing enter all the time! And you didn't answer my questions, or were you just drunk and can't remember what you were talking about?

Bleh no one else cares about Cephir anymore. It's not that I'm not suspicious still, but I lack evidence bullets.

##Vote: ooba

<--- This vote good until ooba actually replacing out voids legal tender.

[ooba]

I did not like his list of reads but that is mostly cos we were not on it.

Since you feel this way, I've added you to the list.

Spoiler: Reads

I couldn't re-read the entire thread during the weekend as I had hoped; I have managed to read the pages in between.

@Tammy, Syryana - Congrats!
@Empire - Congrats too!

Town

Nacho, Syryana {I like what they're doing, reads\thinking is relatable, town posting}
elle {I was sort of losing my faith in elle town and in fact noted "Needs to post more reads" but that Thor vote was very-town}

Not as strong Town

Goat {Goat's suspicious of Shadow; Bottom of Page 38 was nice. Would have been "town" for sure if he had voted Shadow instead of Stupdendous,SafetyDance}
Andrius\Agar {"He knew he wouldn't be able to spend much time in this game - yet opened with that"- Nacho}
Tammy {Probably my weakest "town" slot since I haven't gotten a read yet - but sheeping Syryana}

Neutral+

Thor {Had the vibe of "something being off" from Thor's entrance; I went back and skimmed through his posts in Test of Faith Mafia - didn't look the same - not someone I'd want to lynch today though}
Kanye {That was a good return to the game; liked all his posts in the previous pages}
Amrun {I always have a 'scummy' feeling when reading Amrun though; need to skim through posts in previous games we played together; but interactions, wagons make me think she's town}
Zednek {Vibe}
Cephrir {Vibe + Said somethings in post that I was thinking}
SafetyDance's {Initial reads made no sense whatsoever to me. 870, 874 however resonate to me; As someone who has been accused of a 'random read' playstyle before on D1 - I can see me-town replying with those posts.}

No Read Yet

macmollie

Neutral-

Tierce
MessiahComplex
Alfred's {I didnt like the list in 935}
Garruk {Earlier vibe + Sheeping Syr isn't bad, but two sole posts stating just that rubbed me off as scummy}

Not as strong scum

Quadz {Earlier vibe + Don't like any of the no.2 suspects - Amrun, Goat or Zed}

Scum

Shadoweh {Not sure if Pygmalion but every post of his has been pinging my scumdar}

Unvote. Vote: Shadoweh

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Pedit: "##Vote: ooba <--- This vote good until ooba actually replacing out voids legal tender." -> Umm what?

[pirate mollie]

Have you ever considered not doing it? Look at how much nice and smaller it is when you're not pressing enter all the time![/quote

have u ever considered stahp poasting? <----do you see how this works or do I have to spell it out.

And you didn't answer my questions, or were you just drunk and can't remember what you were talking about?

your questions were already answered in the previous posts where I said that syrlacious's push on sd for the reasons he gave was bad and provided a link. if you would stop talking in your scum qt for 5 seconds you would have absorbed this.

Bleh no one else cares about Cephir anymore. It's not that I'm not suspicious still, but I lack evidence bullets.

##Vote: ooba

<--- This vote good until ooba actually replacing out voids legal tender.

VOTE: shadowthing

[macmollie]

Have you ever considered not doing it? Look at how much nice and smaller it is when you're not pressing enter all the time!

have u ever considered stahp poasting? <----do you see how this works or do I have to spell it out.

And you didn't answer my questions, or were you just drunk and can't remember what you were talking about?

your questions were already answered in the previous posts where I said that syrlacious's push on sd for the reasons he gave was bad and provided a link. if you would stop talking in your scum qt for 5 seconds you would have absorbed this.

Bleh no one else cares about Cephir anymore. It's not that I'm not suspicious still, but I lack evidence bullets.

##Vote: ooba

<--- This vote good until ooba actually replacing out voids legal tender.

VOTE: shadowthing

[Tierce]

ooba - Why am I a "neutral" read?

[ooba]

ooba - Why am I a "neutral" read?

You're not - You're a "Neutral-" meaning "leaning scum".

[macmollie]

@ desp

yeah I am there with syrlacious. again. his possible rethink on his cephrir read screams town.