Newbie 1428 Game Over

pieguyn · Post Post #375 (ISO) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:08 pm

In post 368, Sakura Hana wrote:Unrelated: If you want I can resize your osu! avatar for MS dimmensions (100x100)

thx, I just went ahead and did it myself LOL

Cheery Dog · Post Post #376 (ISO) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:54 pm

In post 374, Ravenpaw wrote:@Cheery- You say that VA is saying nonsense about you, so pray tell, why is this not scum motivated in your view? Does none of the stuff he's been accusing you of been pinging your radar?

I haven't triggered any motivations from why he's doing it, therefore I believe it's best to leave that for other people that don't know my alignment.

It's nonsense as I don't understand how it indicates scum, but I can see that he somehow believes it does.

also thank you for this good question, as it actually put my thoughts in order on VA, enough to say I've started reading him town.

Nobody Special · Post Post #377 (ISO) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:52 pm

Votecount 1.09

Sakura Hana - 3 - Grimgroove, pieguyn, Cheery Dog
Viera Assassin - 3 - Ravenpaw, Sakura Hana, BigTerp
Grimgroove - 2 - Derivan, Viera Assassin
Derivan - 1 - Dyslexicon

Not Voting: ...

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2013-09-13 05:51:40)

V/LA: ...

Nobody Special · Post Post #378 (ISO) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:59 pm

Please note the shiny new deadline.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #379 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:39 am

I could actually compromise for a Grimgroove lynch actually, he's been reaching quite a lot lately.

BigTerp · Post Post #380 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:44 am

Glad to see Dys is back and posting. Providing some decent analysis as well. Glad to see he is thinking along the same lines as me 361 regarding the VA and Sakura sheeping. In regards to that, I feel a bit stronger about calling Sakura town after she switched her vote to VA with good explanations. This 351 also feels pretty townish to me.

This 369 seems a little weird from VA. Although Grims recent postings have me looking his direction a bit. There are posts like this 333, 353, 357 that seem scummy to me. They are mostly filler posts with a bit of scumhunting/questioning involveded. But then there are posts like this 341 that look townish. I'm starting to lean scum on Grim.

BigTerp · Post Post #381 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:46 am

In post 379, Sakura Hana wrote:I could actually compromise for a Grimgroove lynch actually, he's been reaching quite a lot lately.

With your vote on VA, do you have any thoughts that VA coud be bussing Grim? I tend to agree with you in regards to Grims recents posts.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #382 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:51 am

In post 381, BigTerp wrote:
In post 379, Sakura Hana wrote:I could actually compromise for a Grimgroove lynch actually, he's been reaching quite a lot lately.
With your vote on VA, do you have any thoughts that VA coud be bussing Grim? I tend to agree with you in regards to Grims recents posts.

Possibly, but I dont like making associations without flips, and specially on D1.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #383 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:51 am

EBWODP: "Without scum flips"

pieguyn · Post Post #384 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:55 am

Cheery Dog wrote:Sakura makes a good enough compromise though.

just curious, why Sakura over Grimgroove? seems you were suspecting both of them at points

Grimgroove · Post Post #385 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:33 am

In post 380, BigTerp wrote:Glad to see Dys is back and posting. Providing some decent analysis as well. Glad to see he is thinking along the same lines as me 361 regarding the VA and Sakura sheeping. In regards to that, I feel a bit stronger about calling Sakura town after she switched her vote to VA with good explanations. This 351 also feels pretty townish to me.

This 369 seems a little weird from VA. Although Grims recent postings have me looking his direction a bit. There are posts like this 333, 353, 357 that seem scummy to me. They are mostly filler posts with a bit of scumhunting/questioning involveded. But then there are posts like this 341 that look townish. I'm starting to lean scum on Grim.

There's no filler, I just like metaphors to get my point across but everything I said relates directly to the game. The messages in those "scummy posts" should be clear.

Grimgroove · Post Post #386 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:34 am

In post 379, Sakura Hana wrote:I could actually compromise for a Grimgroove lynch actually, he's been reaching quite a lot lately.

Mighty big of you

Derivan · Post Post #387 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:39 am

@MOD
Thanks for the deadline extension!

In post 361, Dyslexicon wrote: My reaction was like "really, you vote because of a silly joking post like that?" -_-

In post 343, Grimgroove wrote:In this case it's used in a scummy way. The word is made to express a non-commital remark that can later be referred to as a crucial element in a case.

Like what I did with Sakura Hana, but without the word "pinging". Because I don't care about being careful about my words. I think Sakura is scum and want him lynched.

Sakura is clearly not working with the same mindset with all his pinging.

Now unvote me, or at least spell my name right :p
And then "Wut, it was serious?"
Er...
Yeah.

Lost my train of thoughts in the maze of quotes along the lines. I'll try not be gone for so long again, as it just totally confuses me.
However, I reeeeally don't like Devian's post, and wasn't impressed by Wolfie's nothingness either. Likely scumz to me.

@Dyslexicon
No worries on misspelling my name happens quite a bit. Also yeah preview is your friend

I hadn't read the whole game yet when I posted last. I have now.

I read Wolf as Lazy/IRL busy newbie town. I would have been suspicious of his lack of content and possible lurking, but as to the exact reason for Banksys's final FoS I really have no idea. Banksys's posts are all over the place (and doesn't mention Wolf before that post), first in some other language and then mostly just dishing out insults and tunneling Raven. Her case on Raven was pretty weak IMO. I give her slot a leaning scum read and VA's posts haven't really changed that read.

My vote for Grim was a quick reaction test as I was working a few pages back to at least get something going. His reaction and OMGUS vote isn't rubbing me the right way. He is currently filed under very possible scum.

You seem to agree that it was odd that he tried to make a serious case with such a weak 'joke-like' case. Could you expand on what specifically you didn't like about my post/vote?

In post 352, Grimgroove wrote:@Derivan
Why are you intent on lynching liabilities to town rather than scum?

@Grim
I voted for you in order to elicit a reaction (I readily admitted that I hadn't completed reading the thread and was working backwards), not because of your apparent lack of attention to detail. I am intent on lynching scum, which based on your reaction I now believe you might be.

As for guessing my gender correctly. Thanks, I guess?

You should explain why in post 93 you are really breaking down and reading the game closely and now are making weak cases. Are you just a burnt out liability or scum? You seem to be attempting to do some scum hunting early on and now this, it's confusing.

@Sakura
I think a Grim/VA or a Grim/CD (see reasoning below) scum team is possible. Would make sense with VA jumping on the wagon after I started it. What do you think about those possibilities?

And speaking of which...

@VA
How do you explain having 100% reads and jumping so suddenly onto the grim wagon I started?

Reasoning for Grim/CD:
So far I'm reading Terp as town, his 23 explains 19 for me and early on I read his activity as pro-town. I don't agree with the mincing of his L-1, L-2 stance. I think at least one scum are likely on the early part of his wagon. So CD might fit the bill there.

Grimgroove · Post Post #388 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:41 am

In post 387, Derivan wrote:I voted for you in order to elicit a reaction (I readily admitted that I hadn't completed reading the thread and was working backwards), not because of your apparent lack of attention to detail. I am intent on lynching scum, which based on your reaction I now believe you might be.

Explain yourself.

Grimgroove · Post Post #389 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:43 am

In post 387, Derivan wrote:You should explain why in post 93 you are really breaking down and reading the game closely and now are making weak cases. Are you just a burnt out liability or scum? You seem to be attempting to do some scum hunting early on and now this, it's confusing.

My case on Sakura Hana is not weak. Read what I wrote. Don't just look at it. READ.
I'll explain if I have to but fuck, it's tedious. So tedious, when you could just be reading

Grimgroove · Post Post #390 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:44 am

In post 387, Derivan wrote:My vote for Grim was a quick reaction test as I was working a few pages back to at least get something going. His reaction and OMGUS vote isn't rubbing me the right way. He is currently filed under very possible scum.

OMGUS vote?
Boy making shit up.

Viera Assassin · Post Post #391 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:26 am

In post 371, Ravenpaw wrote:To my knowledge she never displayed any frustration or a sense of being overwhelmed by it. In fact people were complimenting her on her confidence.

Someone's comment about her replacing out then signing up for another game immediately made me infer that she replaced out in frustration.
The "people" complimenting her on her confidence was Grim, who's scum.

In post 371, Ravenpaw wrote:But she said that when she first made her case on me. Doesn't confbias only become apparent when you've been battling someone for a while and you just want them lynched so that's when you start biasing against them?

Nope. Confbias can appear anytime.

In post 371, Ravenpaw wrote:Townies tunnel on townies all the time. That's what I think was going on with Grim here. Needless to say, he no longer pings my radar.

Except that you shouldn't tunnel on obvtown.

In post 371, Ravenpaw wrote:Can't you just tell me who your buddy is?

I don't have a buddy.

In post 371, Ravenpaw wrote:*sigh* I really should do some meta checks to see how Sakura interacts with her buddies (whether she sheeps them/calls them town etc) but I'm just feeling so lazy.

Sakura isn't scum.

In post 371, Ravenpaw wrote:Yes.
But I just feel so sure about you VA, I'd say you are probably the strongest scum read I've ever had, ever.

That's some pretty good effort.

In post 373, Cheery Dog wrote:Maybe you'd get listened to if you had correct reads rather than whatever the nonsense is about allowing stuff to happen

My reads are correct

In post 374, Ravenpaw wrote:@Cheery- You say that VA is saying nonsense about you, so pray tell, why is this not scum motivated in your view? Does none of the stuff he's been accusing you of been pinging your radar?

He's discrediting over refuting.

In post 376, Cheery Dog wrote:also thank you for this good question, as it actually put my thoughts in order on VA, enough to say I've started reading him town.

wat

In post 380, BigTerp wrote:This 369 seems a little weird from VA.

I called Grim/Cheery scumteam. Why wouldn't I want to lynch Grim?

In post 387, Derivan wrote:@VA
How do you explain having 100% reads and jumping so suddenly onto the grim wagon I started?

I nailed Grimscum in my catchup post (technically way before you did), do I need to have a reason other than "this lynch looks like it'll actually happen" when I'm voting between two scum?

In post 347, BigTerp wrote:Now reading through what VA has posted since I had a few questions for her here 215. This is her response 253. My questions were to general. Yet she took the time to spew out a wall of quotes and reactions. What's the point in avoiding questions that are specific to you, no matter how general?

That post was not an answer to your 215, it was my entrance/catch-up post.

I have not avoided them either, if you look closely the entirety of 253 is an answer.

So I have not addressed them specifically as I did answer each of them.

Viera Assassin · Post Post #392 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:28 am

Hey Sakura would you prefer it if I stopped answering questions and being sure of my reads and started fencesitting going 'oh these are D1 reads they totally might be wrong'
but that isn't going to happen, sooooo

Viera Assassin · Post Post #393 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:29 am

254 was supposted to end this game why is it taking so looong

Grimgroove · Post Post #394 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:33 am

I liked your predecessor much better.
You did not nail me. You called me out for blatantly sheeping your slot before your arrival, which is not an established fact. It's a fantasy.
And even if it were an argument, being caught in the act of sheeping does not constitute being nailed. Unless you're in Wales. I'm not in Wales.

Viera Assassin · Post Post #395 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:36 am

I'm calling you out for supporting Banksys Flareon in the Flareon vs Ravenpaw argument, framing a TvT as a TvS in order to try and get a mislynch off.
Normally, that is not exactly a scumtell, but when I factor in that your reasons that you have given for supporting Flareon is nothing more than "I like her playstyle" then it clearly is.

Grimgroove · Post Post #396 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:41 am

I hope the people currently voting me are reading this -_- Even Ravenpaw who I so visciously attacked and has every reason to hate me will deny that claim.

Fuck it, case against Sakura incoming. Tonight, or tomorrow. Based on my own fucking posts, because I'm on to something and you should have noticed, only I NEED TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU and it's tedious

After that I'm looking into Derivan.

This is my plan of action. Put your silly attacks on hold, if only for self-preservation.

Viera Assassin · Post Post #397 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:44 am

Can you just point me to where you said anything that says the contrary to 395?

We don't have much time to spare 'till deadline.

and Sakura's pretty fucking town. Get off her.

Grimgroove · Post Post #398 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:47 am

My interactions with Ravenpaw do. Click the ISO button (according to my calculations it should be just above the word "interactions" in this post) and scroll your merry way up.

I'm not going to be your speedlynch over some made-up shit. Give something real.

I'll tell you why she's scum, and then you can tell me all about how she's town later and look stupid.

Viera Assassin · Post Post #399 (ISO) » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:27 am

Your trouble with Ravenpaw
"Why didn't you pay attention to me in RVS?"
"Why are you being so antitown in Ravenpaw vs Flareon?"
"Why are you stealing my attention?"
"Why are you townleader"
"Why are you town?"

That's what the ISO button tells me.

You're not a speedlynch.

You pushing TvT into TvS the way you did is scummy.

No, I'm not conceding my read on Sakura.

No, being abrasive does not mean that you get me to back off.