Newbie 1428 Game Over

[Michael_Wolf]

RVS Choo Choo!

[Grimgroove]

VOTE: Michael_Wolf

This is page 2. No more time for funny business.

I think Michael_Wolf is scum. He used the word "turf". Only hoodlums use that word.

[Cat Clancer]

Oop, apologizes for my absence. School takes precedence! But I'll be on every day to check.

VOTE: Grimgroove

cause my school's mascot is the Wolf. I can't tolerate those who vote for wolves.

[Dyslexicon]

Anyway I think one of these quotes does actually belong to scum. They both seem to want to exclaim pointless stuff as if it made actual sense.

Which one of them? Just any?

Also
VOTE: Cheery Dog
Because OMGUS!

[Michael_Wolf]

UNVOTE: Cheery Dog

Ok we accomplished our goal of RVS to start a wagon.

L-1 and not calling it is uncool, we could have an accidental lynch and that's not very town.

[Dyslexicon]

UNVOTE: Cheery Dog

Ok we accomplished our goal of RVS to start a wagon.

L-1 and not calling it is uncool, we could have an accidental lynch and that's not very town.

Omg, I actually didn't realize, I though I was the second vote for some reason. O.o
Guess I got over excited seeing Cheery here. *making coffee*

[BigTerp]

UNVOTE: Cheery Dog

Ok we accomplished our goal of RVS to start a wagon.

L-1 and not calling it is uncool, we could have an accidental lynch and that's not very town.

Omg, I actually didn't realize, I though I was the second vote for some reason. O.o
Guess I got over excited seeing Cheery here. *making coffee*

Guess I got over excited seeing Cheery here. *making coffee*[/quote]

Although I'm one who is usually ok with taking someone to L-2 or even L-1 early on to see how they react, I gotta agree with Michael_Wolf here. Not so sure I believe the excuse for it either. You obviously went through and read the very short thread since you quoted Cheery Dog from last page. Yet you didn't realize your vote made it L-1?

[Dyslexicon]

Although I'm one who is usually ok with taking someone to L-2 or even L-1 early on to see how they react, I gotta agree with Michael_Wolf here. Not so sure I believe the excuse for it either. You obviously went through and read the very short thread since you quoted Cheery Dog from last page. Yet you didn't realize your vote made it L-1?

I didn't, no. I was more concentrated on what people wrote, and the two first votes must have slipped my mind.
What do you think I'd have to gain on lying?

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.01

Cheery Dog - 3 - Ravenpaw, Banksys Flareon, Dyslexicon
Grimgroove - 2 - pieguyn, Cat Clancer
Dyslexicon - 1 - Cheery Dog
Michael_Wolf - 1 - Grimgroove
Ravenpaw - 1 - BigTerp

Not Voting: Michael_Wolf

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2013-09-11 03:15:51)

[Cheery Dog]

Anyway I think one of these quotes does actually belong to scum. They both seem to want to exclaim pointless stuff as if it made actual sense.

Which one of them? Just any?

Also
VOTE: Cheery Dog
Because OMGUS!

I'm still working that out. (which is why I had left my vote on you rather than move it to my current suspects in those two.

[BigTerp]

Although I'm one who is usually ok with taking someone to L-2 or even L-1 early on to see how they react, I gotta agree with Michael_Wolf here. Not so sure I believe the excuse for it either. You obviously went through and read the very short thread since you quoted Cheery Dog from last page. Yet you didn't realize your vote made it L-1?

I didn't, no. I was more concentrated on what people wrote, and the two first votes must have slipped my mind.
What do you think I'd have to gain on lying?

If your mafia taking someone to L-1 early isn't the best idea, but it's not a horrible idea either. Maybe someone derphammers and you get a quick jump on the townies. You got called out for it and if your mafia you have no choice to but to lie. Now, I don't necessary think your mafia at this point. It would be a pretty bold move to do that. But it was worth questioning.

[pieguyn]

Anyway I think one of these quotes does actually belong to scum. They both seem to want to exclaim pointless stuff as if it made actual sense.

o.o just seems like standard RVS to me...

unvote vote: Michael Wolf

I don't see anything wrong with L - 1 so soon as long as no one hammers (which shouldn't happen if people read the thread), so imo that seems like he's just trying to blend in and seem town

[pieguyn]

EBWOP: also
*high five Grimgroove* \:D/

[Cat Clancer]

Oh, our first real wagon.
I shall leave my vote for now, but I will ask Dyslexicon: with all these reads on you, do you feel anyone of them being scummy?

[Ravenpaw]

VOTE: Ravenpaw

Putting Cheery Dog to

L-3

so soon, has to be scum!!!!!

Have you not seen a random bandwagon form before?

Oh my God, you're right!

VOTE: Ravenpaw

So to counteract a L-3 wagon, we need another L-3 wagon? Does this then face the same problem?

Anyway I think one of these quotes does actually belong to scum. They both seem to want to exclaim pointless stuff as if it made actual sense.

Those two posts both didn't read serious to me, why did you think they were being serious?

UNVOTE: Cheery Dog

Ok we accomplished our goal of RVS to start a wagon.

L-1 and not calling it is uncool, we could have an accidental lynch and that's not very town.

Omg, I actually didn't realize, I though I was the second vote for some reason. O.o
Guess I got over excited seeing Cheery here. *making coffee*

Although I'm one who is usually ok with taking someone to L-2 or even L-1 early on to see how they react

, I gotta agree with Michael_Wolf here. Not so sure I believe the excuse for it either. You obviously went through and read the very short thread since you quoted Cheery Dog from last page. Yet you didn't realize your vote made it L-1?

Regarding the bolded: if you're okay with that, why haven't you done that here?

[Dyslexicon]

If your mafia taking someone to L-1 early isn't the best idea, but it's not a horrible idea either. Maybe someone derphammers and you get a quick jump on the townies. You got called out for it and if your mafia you have no choice to but to lie. Now, I don't necessary think your mafia at this point. It would be a pretty bold move to do that. But it was worth questioning.

So, basically no stance?

o.o just seems like standard RVS to me...

unvote vote: Michael Wolf

I don't see anything wrong with L - 1 so soon as long as no one hammers (which shouldn't happen if people read the thread), so imo that seems like he's just trying to blend in and seem town

Issue being I didn't state that I put Cheery on L-1, which I should've, so he was right to point that out.

Oh, our first real wagon.
I shall leave my vote for now, but I will ask Dyslexicon: with all these reads on you, do you feel anyone of them being scummy?

You'll probably know if I do. I'd like some moar first. What do you think?

[Michael_Wolf]

@pieguyn Sure I could've left my vote after calling out L-1 but newbie games can be so unpredictible and after seeing an SE put down a vote without knowing it seems logical that it could happen again.

[BigTerp]

Regarding the bolded: if you're okay with that, why haven't you done that here?

At this point, it's still super early in the game. I don't want what happened when Dyslexicon came in and didn't realize the vote count. Once the flow of the game gets going, which it seems to be getting there, theres less of a chance someone derphammers. But this early, the game is just getting rolling and we are still in RVS, for the most part. So someone could easily RVS a vote on someone who is L-1 without realizing it.

[BigTerp]

So, basically no stance?

At this point, no. What you did could be seen as super scummy, especially as an SE. You should have enough experience to at least check the vote count before you vote. So my initial reaction was to call it out and question it. But after reviewing what happened, I have to believe you truly didn't know the vote count. Would be a pretty bold move for mafia to try and get a lynch so soon.

[BigTerp]

Anyway I think one of these quotes does actually belong to scum. They both seem to want to exclaim pointless stuff as if it made actual sense.

o.o just seems like standard RVS to me...

unvote vote: Michael Wolf

I don't see anything wrong with L - 1 so soon as long as no one hammers (which shouldn't happen if people read the thread), so imo that seems like he's just trying to blend in and seem town

Any reason for your vote change? I'd like to see what happens if we get 2 tied up at L-2. Maybe we can get someone to start squirming.

VOTE: Michael_Wolf

[Cheery Dog]

My post was mearly being facetious. Thought it came across that way. Grimgrooves looked to be the same to me.

Facetiousness has many values to it, and when combined with rvs, I felt that there was scum motivation in why those posts happened in that manner. This is what would be known as a gut read at this stage.

Ok we accomplished our goal of RVS to start a wagon.

The goal of RVS is actually to get dicussion happening (or as some people probably like to put it, to get out of RVS), wagons need not be invovled, and sometimes actually can hamper efforts.

Although I'm one who is usually ok with taking someone to L-2 or even L-1 early on to see how they react.

Would this have to do with the fact I simply ignore votes on me that appear to be random? Even if I was still there, I'd probably just be scorning at having people at L-1 early in the day is bad for business.

o.o just seems like standard RVS to me...

Best place to start scumhunting.

Those two posts both didn't read serious to me, why did you think they were being serious?

Everything is serious, we're up against the mafia in a life or death situation. Getting too much joking happening, just lets scum control the town.

Any reason for your vote change? I'd like to see what happens if we get 2 tied up at L-2. Maybe we can get someone to start squirming.

VOTE: Michael_Wolf

You're asking about vote changes and then just practically random voting elsewhere and changing the vote yourself. Which as a whole is a bit contradictory in that you want reasons, and then settling yourself for having completing wagons. (which more useful than no wagons, mostly just focuses players in certain directions)

Overall, I call an opportistic stance, and my own vote to move.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BigTerp

[BigTerp]

Cheery - How are you able to neatly organize individual quotes from other peoples post like you did above? I'm aware of the multi quote button, but If I want to quote only the parts of your post that pertain to me it ends up quoting the entire post. Typically I just copy and paste what I want to quote, but it leaves out who the post is from.

[BigTerp]

Facetiousness has many values to it, and when combined with rvs, I felt that there was scum motivation in why those posts happened in that manner. This is what would be known as a gut read at this stage.

Fair enough.

Would this have to do with the fact I simply ignore votes on me that appear to be random? Even if I was still there, I'd probably just be scorning at having people at L-1 early in the day is bad for business.

No. What I mean is that I like to see how people react to being at L-2 or L-1. If we catch mafia in that spot there should be a good bit of squirming from either the player with the votes, or alot of movement from their mobster teammate to try and move votes. If we get someone who is town at L-2 or L-1 mafia may try and slide in to quick hammer or try and get someone else to. Either way it's a good way to gain information, IMO.

You're asking about vote changes and then just practically random voting elsewhere and changing the vote yourself. Which as a whole is a bit contradictory in that you want reasons, and then settling yourself for having completing wagons. (which more useful than no wagons, mostly just focuses players in certain directions)

Quite the contrary. I gave a reason for my vote change. Without looking, I honestly don't remember where my vote was, it was RVS. But it was doing no good there. I moved it to where I felt we could start getting some discussion and hopefully some mafia reads.

[Grimgroove]

Anyway I think one of these quotes does actually belong to scum. They both seem to want to exclaim pointless stuff as if it made actual sense.

Facetiousness has many values to it, and when combined with rvs, I felt that there was scum motivation in why those posts happened in that manner. This is what would be known as a gut read at this stage.

Everything is serious, we're up against the mafia in a life or death situation. Getting too much joking happening, just lets scum control the town.

DOES NOT COMPUTE!

First you say you thought those RVS's were fishy because they exclaim pointless stuff

as if it made actual sense

. The bolded part means that you thought those posts were fishy,b ecause they were invoking silly reasons as serious ones. So the seriousness that you saw was the problem.

But now that everyone has made clear that your comedy-radar needs fixing, you proclaim it's not the seriousness that is scummy, but the facetiousness (whoever came up with that word should be able to spell "merely" by the way, cfr. BigTerp) and the joking, that are suddenly tactical instruments for scum to gain control.

In other words, he doesn't care about the stick he's using, he already picked out the dogs he's going to try and beat down.

I would vote, but yes, L-1, and at this point things could get too confusing, but: CheeryDog.

[Nobody Special]

Cheery - How are you able to neatly organize individual quotes from other peoples post like you did above? I'm aware of the multi quote button, but If I want to quote only the parts of your post that pertain to me it ends up quoting the entire post. Typically I just copy and paste what I want to quote, but it leaves out who the post is from.

What I do, as a player, is to open each quote in a new window, edit down to what I wanted to quote, then type my reply; then copy and paste all those into one post. A bit labor intensive, but it looks nicer.

I have never figured out how to make the multi-quote thing work properly. At all.