Mini 404: Diablo Mafia (Game Over)

[chaotic_diablo]

1. He's a hypocrite.

It could be I'm just being paranoid, but on Day 1 it pays to be paranoid just to start discussion.

FoS: C_D

for doing nothing but playing the victim and

being suspicious of anything that moves.

You aren't starting discussion though, just trying to divert attention from yourself.

Oh, and you're trying to divert attention of yourself as well. Try more "defending youself" rather than "attacking your attacker".

[TheJiveMachine]

Your conversation mostly stated that my point was "unproven" due to not having any support.

Yep.

Later, you state that your point wasn't that I hadn't proved it, but it's because I was "arrogant".

100% wrong. I said you hadn't proved your point and were arrogant for assuming you had. Do you even read my posts?

[chaotic_diablo]

Your conversation mostly stated that my point was "unproven" due to not having any support.

Yep.

Later, you state that your point wasn't that I hadn't proved it, but it's because I was "arrogant".

100% wrong. I said you hadn't proved your point and were arrogant for assuming you had. Do you even read my posts?

That's what you said? That changes everything. My vote is now reinforced. Personality doesn't play into scumness. Using it to justify a case isn't worth scrap.

Now, are you going to respond to my other points or not? You've been attacking one specific case for quite a while. In addition, you seemingly drop them when it seems convenient to you. As a result, I'm going to go back and force you to answer my previous arguments. Now I'm going to "prove my point". I can't prove a point without getting a chance to do so.

Why do we vote? Do we vote to twiddle our thumbs? If there is no reason to vote, then why should I? I've already shown that I can show an opinion just by FOSing someone. What is a FOS for? It's to place suspicion. Can't you differentiate between the functions of a vote and a FOS?

2. Plays DoS in post 93 by attacking only one aspect of my argument.

3. Ignores my other arguments

Any move I make can be classified as "diverting" attention. A valid attack on someone, a defense for something unjust, whatever. Tell me, what isn't a diversion? making myself look scummy? Making a defense on a nonexistant argument? You didn't even bother explaining to STD why people are on my bandwagon.

Starting discussion only requires people to respond. Since I did get someone to respond and attempt to keep it up, I don't see how I'm not trying to start discussion.

Oh, and you're trying to divert attention of yourself as well. Try more "defending youself" rather than "attacking your attacker".

[Mr. Flay]

Carp Logic. I'm so totally using that at some point.

[Zindaras]

Official Voting Update

:

chaotic_diablo

: 4 (livingod, Cogito Ergo Sum, TheJiveMachine, KaleiÐoscøpe)

DragonsofSummer

: 2 (Save the Dragons, The Central Scrutinizer)

TheJiveMachine

: 2 (DragonsofSummer, chaotic_diablo)

The Central Scrutinizer

: 1 (Mr. Flay)

Not Voting

: 3 (remussaidow, Skruffs, Cheesfan)

With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

The Central Scrutinizer has requested replacement. I'll attempt to get one for him as quickly possible. KaleiÐoscøpe has been prodded.

[Skruffs]

HAY GUYS

Vote : Cheezfan

Good lord are you EVERYWHERE?!
This vote is based on nothing except that he doesn't have any votges on him at the moment. I haven't read anything except the last vote count.
HERE I GO!
*heads to page one*

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Still here, still happy with my vote...

[remussaidow]

aye, seconding kaleid

[remussaidow]

and yes, I mean with not voting. No one in particular seems drastically scummy

[Mr. Flay]

The Central Scrutinizer has requested replacement.

...

what?

He's still active on the site, I'm not sure this isn't scummy, although it's not for the best of in-game reasons. However it does nothing to assuage my in-game concerns that already existed. Replacements get no free passes from me.

[Zindaras]

He's requested replacement due to feeling unable to contribute due to some upcoming real-life matters.

[livingod]

Your conversation mostly stated that my point was "unproven" due to not having any support.

Yep.

Later, you state that your point wasn't that I hadn't proved it, but it's because I was "arrogant".

100% wrong. I said you hadn't proved your point and were arrogant for assuming you had. Do you even read my posts?

That's what you said? That changes everything. My vote is now reinforced. Personality doesn't play into scumness. Using it to justify a case isn't worth scrap.

The remark about being arrogant is just there to uncover your fallacious reasoning (i.e. assuming to have proven your point). His real point wasn't you being arrogant, it was you assuming something that wasn't true. You seem to use technicalities in your above argument while missing the real point, and also ignoring TJM's rebuttal until now, when it has been brought to you on a silver platter.

[livingod]

3. Ignores my other arguments

A) Saying that posting jokes is scummier than posting nothing.
B) Only going after LG for this. If you're so opposed to "contentless joking, why did you both intially and continuously attack only one of at least three or 4 people who were doing it at the same time he was, all while you posted <i>nothing</i>?
C) Claiming that LG is trying to appeal to authority. WTF?
D) Trying to justify a self vote by saying that it is totally defensive WIFOM and that there's nothing wrong with it. Double WTF?

A. fritzler-like players are scummy.
B. I already explained beforehand. What did he do? Ignore it.
C. I gave reasoning, lots of reasoning. It's far from craplogic. Exaggerated would have been a better word if he wanted to criticize it.
D. I didn't say it was "okay", I conceded and gave livingod that point on WIFOM. Then Jive goes on about "defensive WIFOM" that has no meaning.

A Lurkers are scummier
B I gave the same reaction that you did for the selfvote accusation (call it ignoring if you will).
C Lots of reasoning, besides the fact that it's Day 1.
D You're right, you were WIFOMy.

The crux of my case against you (not all of it):
1. I FoSed lots of people early on, referring to Pooky's style.
2. I joked for one page (along with others).
3. You selfvoted early on.
4. You lurked for one page.

I believe that 3 and 4 are way scummier than 1 and 2, respectively. Your argument seems to be the exact opposite.

You state that your three suspects are TCS CES and Kalei, yet your vote is still on TJM.

[Save The Dragons]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Still here, still happy with my vote...[/quote]

I asked you why. Your non-response troubles me.

I totally am so happy that I got C_D to do my dirty work. I really didn't feel like quoting all the reasons I wanted to vote Jive Machine (which I must admit was a number less than the ones C_D gave).

Vote: Jive Machine

See, that's how you fucking wow me. Not this "i like my voted. I didn't give a reason for it. I like my body."

Livingod is scum too?

Zindie! WHY ARE THERE SEVEN SCUM IN THIS GAME?!?

[quote="livingod"]
The crux of my case against you (not all of it):
1. I FoSed lots of people early on, referring to Pooky's style.
2. I joked for one page (along with others).
3. You selfvoted early on.
4. You lurked for one page.

You state that your three suspects are TCS CES and Kalei, yet your vote is still on TJM.[/quote]

1. C_D accused you of this, right? Ok.
2. C_D accused you of this, right? Ok.
3. Yeah, I'll give you this, but metagamingly it's not a great tell. If you wanna kill him for metagaming, then it makes sense, but if you want to kill him for being scum, you're barking up the wrong tree.
4. ????????????????????????????????????? ARE YOU FRICKEN KIDDING ME. When I have bad days and don't come onto scum, I miss pages. When I can't add anything to the discussion, I miss pages. Lurking is a fact of life. I'll admit, scum lurk. So do town. In general, scum lurk while participating. Town lurk by not posting, although don't take that as fact. My point is...one page? Are you so sure that that's a scum tell?

Or are you hounding C_D with crap logic? With a metagame attack and a call to lurkings?

And if C_D is actually scum, I'm going to eat my liver.

[Save The Dragons]

if anyone thinks I'm being a jerk or wants me not to swear or anything please let me know...I feel like I'm being kind of a bitch in this game.

[TheJiveMachine]

Everyone lynch C_D. That's about a 25% StD will eat his own liver, at least. That's far too good of an opportunity to pass up.

[Mr. Flay]

Unvote, Vote: TheJiveMachine

- I'm willing to see where this goes. TCS is still on my sh!t list, but TJM is climbing rapidly due to hypocrisy.

[chaotic_diablo]

Yeah, STD answered livingod's post, so I'll answer the one that he hadn't.

The remark about being arrogant is just there to uncover your fallacious reasoning (i.e. assuming to have proven your point). His real point wasn't you being arrogant, it was you assuming something that wasn't true. You seem to use technicalities in your above argument while missing the real point, and also ignoring TJM's rebuttal until now, when it has been brought to you on a silver platter.

That makes far more sense. You win some, you lose some.

A Lurkers are scummier
B I gave the same reaction that you did for the selfvote accusation (call it ignoring if you will).
C Lots of reasoning, besides the fact that it's Day 1.
D You're right, you were WIFOMy.

A. Then it's a difference of opinion. I don't like cluttering the thread with crap. You dislike nonparticipation. Between the two, cluttering the thread with crap has more substance to base a lynch on.
B. Alright, ignoring it is.
C. Anyone can state that there's little to go on Day One. That is the biggest complaint. Stop sitting on your ass and using it as an excuse to act scummy.
D. Yes, I WIFOMed, and I will take it the blame for it.

You state that your three suspects are TCS CES and Kalei, yet your vote is still on TJM

I also stated that TJM was a suspect as well. Clearly, you missed post 21.

[remussaidow]

TJM, I find your desire to know that STD is eating his own liver to be disturbing. Especially since I believe that C_D is not scummy as well. Not voting until I hear a defense for the extreme hypocrisy. And only because I'd be putting him at lynch -1, and thats never a safe thing to do until you're SURE you want that player lynched. (feel free to correct my math, I am quite possibly wrong)

[remussaidow]

wow, sorry about that. CPU quota thing happened, and... well, you see how it went.

Zindaras, if you wouldn't mind deleting a couple of the extra posts? Thanks.

[Zindaras]

Official Voting Update

:

chaotic_diablo

: 4 (livingod, Cogito Ergo Sum, TheJiveMachine, KaleiÐoscøpe)

TheJiveMachine

: 4 (DragonsofSummer, chaotic_diablo, Save the Dragons, Mr. Flay)

Cheesefan

: 1 (Skruffs)

DragonsofSummer

: 1 (The Central Scrutinizer)

Not Voting

: 2 (remussaidow, Cheesefan)

With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

I deleted two of remussaidow's posts, as he triple posted. CES will be prodded, as I believe he hasn't posted in a while. I hope to get a replacement for TCS within the next 24 hours.

[Zindaras]

Thestatusquo replaces The Central Scrutinizer.

[Thestatusquo]

YARR! To Ces.

Awwwwww, Flay, I don't get any free passes? PWEAAASE!?

Anyway, really happy that the content started on page 1, pretty much. Heres a list of talking points.

Obviously town: C_D, STD, Me,

Obviously scum: Livingod, ces, scope, dragonsofsummer.

I see no reason to change my previous personages vote.

Now. The reasons why will come when asked. Particular person by particular person. Some of it is gut (C_D and ces, for instance) but the rest of it is backed up by cold hard logic. LOGIC OF DOOM.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

YARR!

Unvote, vote: Thestatusquo

[Thestatusquo]

Hi to you too ces.

Let me guess. It's a gut feeling?