Silly Rabbit. I kinda agree with Jack on this one. Romanus' supposed role would be more balanced in the hands of the town.Raging Rabbit wrote:<snip>Finally! I, like,Jack wrote:But his power makes more sense as a pro town power than a mafia power, seems like it's supposed to counterbalance the mafia's coordination abilities.sodisagree with you it just can't be put into words. Logic? I call that flapdoodle. This post is more wrong than the average American is fat.
(In case anyone didn't get that, I agree with Cheesefan.)
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No real way to argue with that other than saying I'm not all that inclined to believe you, so whatever.Romanus wrote:I've never played in a game like this before, so I thought, without any experience, that having a fewer number on day one would be better. Not really sure why, but it was a judgment call. Now, since I am outed, the town can at least give me suggestions on how to use this power.
Whatexactlydoes your power role do, incidentally?
That is such a huge scumtell. Tricks aren't for kids, tricks can be dangerous and should only be attempted by responsible adults.Ghyrt wrote:Silly Rabbit.
Well, that depends. If by balanced you mean "weak to the point of uselessness", I completely agree.Ghyrt wrote:I kinda agree with Jack on this one. Romanus' supposed role would be more balanced in the hands of the town.-
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I'm sorry, can you say that again? I can't see what you're saying.Raging Rabbit wrote:
Oh. That's not outguessing anyone, then, it'd be much stronger in hands of mafia. Period. Quite a misrepresentation, too.JDodge wrote:I believe he means where we're trying to figure out his alignment by figuring out whether or not his role would be more balanced as town or scum.-
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Oh. That's not outguessing anyone, then, it'd be much stronger in hands of mafia. Period. Quite a misrepresentation, too.JDodge wrote:I'm sorry, can you say that again? I can't see what you're saying.
It's not outguessing the mod because we're arguing which side it'd be stronger for, which is obviously mafia. That's not to say Romanus is 100% mafia our anything, just that it's a wierd role for pro town to have and I find it odd he chose both to use it to get fewer people nominated and now refuses to share his full abilities with us.
You should generally back up strong statements such as that with, like, arguments and stuff.Ronamus wrote:Your wild flailing attacks are stinking up the place.
No. I want to know what your full abilities are, since your current abilities make no sense for a pro town role, and you're a claimed power role and therefore preferred kill target if you really aren't scum anyways.Romanus wrote:You want to know the extant of my powers, why, so you know whether or not it is worth trying to kill me tonight?
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*is confused*Raging Rabbit wrote:
Oh. That's not outguessing anyone, then, it'd be much stronger in hands of mafia. Period. Quite a misrepresentation, too.JDodge wrote:I believe he means where we're trying to figure out his alignment by figuring out whether or not his role would be more balanced as town or scum.
2nd guessing the mod means assuming the mod would have done something a particular way e.g. "there's a doc in this game so there must be a cop". Making assumptions about Romanus's role is 2nd guessing the mod, we have no way of knowing if the mod would have given it to a pro town player or to a scum player. You can't say for sure what the mod would do.-
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QFT!Jack wrote:
*is confused*Raging Rabbit wrote:
Oh. That's not outguessing anyone, then, it'd be much stronger in hands of mafia. Period. Quite a misrepresentation, too.JDodge wrote:I believe he means where we're trying to figure out his alignment by figuring out whether or not his role would be more balanced as town or scum.
2nd guessing the mod means assuming the mod would have done something a particular way e.g. "there's a doc in this game so there must be a cop". Making assumptions about Romanus's role is 2nd guessing the mod, we have no way of knowing if the mod would have given it to a pro town player or to a scum player. You can't say for sure what the mod would do.-
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He could also be wondering whether to nominate you tonight, remember. Although I will say he doesn't look as pro-town as he did earlier.Romanus wrote:Vote: Raging Rabbit
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You're technically right, so I'll rephrase: I consider "outguessing the mod" a type of crap logic, which only applies to cases when you don't really have any idea what the mod would do. Saying Romanus' role is stronger in the hands of mafia is downright true. Saying that it's therefore more likely than otherwise to be a mafia role is technically also "2nd guessing", but it's a very informed guess backed up by common sense.Jack wrote:*is confused*
2nd guessing the mod means assuming the mod would have done something a particular way e.g. "there's a doc in this game so there must be a cop". Making assumptions about Romanus's role is 2nd guessing the mod, we have no way of knowing if the mod would have given it to a pro town player or to a scum player. You can't say for sure what the mod would do.
He should save the trouble of thinking about that 'till after we're finished with Skruffs' math and decided on today's lynch. I may also point out he won't be able to nominate me if he successfully gets me lyched, and that I'm really not afraid of being nominated twice a night of that's what it takes to lynch who I currently consider the scummiest player.Jack wrote:He could also be wondering whether to nominate you tonight, remember.
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Oh. You're once again right, then. I don't see any point in limiting are discussion to the nominees in our current situation.Jack wrote:Those last two quotes were addressed to Romanus.
But it's not unreasonably strong in the hands of mafia, just quite useful and makes perfect sense. It does very little to no good for town, though, and makes little sense flavorwise imo.Jack wrote:I don't see the "role is more powerful in hands of mafia-->therefore more likely to be mafia role" connection at all. Giving weak roles to the town is common. Giving the mafia extra powers is I believe less so.
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Actually, yes. But Romanus never treated his role as a drawback. He was all "Look at me, I'm a POWER ROLE!" IIRC.Cheesefan wrote:
And if he can only vote for one person it is acually bad for the townRaging Rabbit wrote: But it's not unreasonably strong in the hands of mafia, just quite useful and makes perfect sense. It does very little to no good for town, though, and makes little sense flavorwise imo.-
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Easy. He saw we were gonna get nominations from everyone regardless of his earlier efforts, and decided he'd look less scummy by just telling us the truth than by having to deal with a fair amount of the suspicion for the inconsistencies.Jack wrote:Why would Romanus claim the power as scum though?
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It's somewhat like that, yes, only the difference is way, way bigger, Romanus treats himself as a power role rather than a drawback which it sorta is if he's really pro town, and I have other reasons for finding him suspicious if you'll bother reading back.JDodge wrote:Of course! That's like saying that because a roleblocker is more often a scum ability than a town ability, that said roleblockermustbe scum!-
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Instances of unsubstantiated post dismissal: X+1, where X is a number I've lost track ofRaging Rabbit wrote:
Depite this really stupid post, I still regret not being able to lynch Romanus more.Maz Medias wrote:Instances of RR OMGUSing today: 2.
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