Yes, conveniently leave out and forget the fact that I have been arguing with Nero and calling him scum for his deflection since the end of d1, and am still doing so. Good job Scumdaar.In post 4315, Slandaar wrote:Have you?In post 4308, Bulbazak wrote: I've been pushing Nero as scum since the end of d1 based on his deflection.
Could have fooled me, I don't remember you pushing a wagon on him let me check your vote on him...Sure were pushing that wagon eh?!In post 3977, Bulbazak wrote:Can you explain this?In post 3949, Cephrir wrote: If Bacde was independently scummy there would be nothing preventing him from being redscum. He just isn't. And being wrong is not a scumtell in and of itself.
Mala's tantrum and the followup by Mara feel very town to me, which is the first time since d1 that they have been townreading so strongly. I'm not sure I buy their Khan case, but I'd like to see how this plays out first. Going to go with the vote I had originally before I was convinced by Desperado to join the wagon.
Vote Nero Cain
This is a good wagon.
P-edit: They just felt thrown together at the last minute. You were also not up to date on Cephrir or PV, which showed in how you couldn't give a coherent read on them. I also found it strange that you would have so many nulls at this point in the game. This shows that you're clearly not reading the game as closely as you should.
Good work Bulbazak!
In post 4315, Slandaar wrote:Have you?In post 4308, Bulbazak wrote: I've been pushing Seanald as scum since at least the end of d1 based on him staying on the sidelines and stirring the pot.
Well if you could link me to the part where you make a case on him, make an argument to try and convince someone else hes scum or link me to where you made a nice coherent post to him or regarding him that wasn't a tiny snippet hidden within a wall that would be very useful.
I've been pointing out his lurking and stirring the pot since d1. On d2, he did some IIoA on Syryana's posts and didn't actually come to a conclusion on who was scum until after I pressured him on it. Then after his horrible AK vote and unvote, I actually voted him, which came at the end of that last post. What more did you want? For me to pray to the great and powerful Mastin and have all scum magically revealed to us?
Since when did I become Superman? Thor spent 2 days questioning them and arguing with them on the same subject, and somehow you expectIn post 4315, Slandaar wrote:Questioning. What have you done with your questioning? what was the end result of it? Nothing.In post 4308, Bulbazak wrote: I've been questioning Ffullisade on them dodging Thor's questions.
Which is ironic, coming from the guy who has sat on the sidelines and not even scumhunted. All you've done is throw out an occasional comment and call someone scum. That's not scumhunting. That's going through the motions. And then you have the audacity to try to claim someone else, who has put more effort into finding scum than you, mind you, and has tried to ascertain other player's motivations, is not scumhunting.In post 4315, Slandaar wrote:No, please don't I have heard enough.In post 4308, Bulbazak wrote: Need I go on?
Bulbazak does nothing, he may ask questions he may look like he is interacting and scumhunting but the fact is nothing ever results from what he says. This is the meaning of doing nothing.
We lynch this after Nero.
Your actual refusal to read is irritating me so much that I'm starting to get a headache. When Seanald's wagon got to L-3, CTD asked to be given some time to make some final posts regarding the game. Therefore, I unvoted to give him the time he needed. Why would I, then, immediately turn around and vote you, who was reaching the same levels as Seanald, after I had unvoted in the first place in order to give CTD more time? That's why I asked CTD if he had finished making his final posts, especially since I saw him not only voting you, but moaning about your wagon slowing down. As soon as I find out he's finished with what he needed to do, I will be voting for you, as my scumread on your slot is stronger.In post 4316, Nero Cain wrote:Which was no more of a "deflection" than Kitty's "ZOMG, LOOK AT THE FITH VOTE!!!" or Mollie's "U R DUMB!" or whatever fucktarded thing she said.In post 4308, Bulbazak wrote:I've been pushing Nero as scum since the end of d1 based on his deflection.
I mean, really. I asked Khan why he thought my setup speculation was scummy despite others doing it. That's no different then your view of Kitty asking my why I didn't find Bcade's 5th vote (THAT WASN'T EVEN A VOTE!!!) scummy/opportunistic.
and now that I'm the leading wagon your vote is where? That's right. You aren't voting. Which is a big reason why I'm reading you as scum, I've been your #1 suspect since day 2 and instead of being overjoyed and hopping on my wagon you are tentative as fuck to vote me wich doesn't strike me as town in the least.
please die scum.
But this conversation is not about AK's motivation at all. This is about your deflection onto 3 other players. I have explained in great detail the difference between your post and AK's, which you seem intent not to listen to. You have since been trying to steer the conversation away from the original point and onto AK herself, which is in and of itself a deflection, which you have claimed you are not doing.In post 4318, Nero Cain wrote:This is extremely relevant to our conversation/argument. If YOU think that she was asking me about my motives then its a fair question to ask you why she felt that I should have called out Bacade on his "5th vote"In post 4305, Bulbazak wrote:First, you were asking me about player motives based on votes that may or may not exist, from Bacde no less. Bacde's voting history has been eratic, and I really don't want to get into this, especially in a conversation that's about YOU, not AK. Second, AK was not using a "hey look over there defense", she was asking about your motives and criteria.In post 4241, Nero Cain wrote: That's like half the point of this game; to speculate on players motives. But the question has NOTHING to do with Bcade and everything to do with AK using a "hey look over there defense".
As you can see, bacde was already on the Nacho wagon and therefore his revote was NOT the 5th vote.In post 701, mastin2 wrote:Sixteenth Votecount: (AKA, the "Times are a changin, votes are a not" votecount)
Nachomamma8 - 4 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Nero Cain, Amethyst Kitty)
YOU are claiming that this was not a deflect and her asking about my motives. I'm calling bullshit on this 'cause Bacde didn't even have the 5th vote on the Nacho wagon and so Kitty's post looks like nothing more than a "hey look over there" post 'cause I find it very very hard for Mala to legit believe that I should have found his post scummy/opportunistic when he wasn't even the 5th vote.
So explain to me how she was asking about motive and criteria based on a not actual vote.
As for the Bacde 5th vote point, Bacde actually reemphasized his vote after AK placed her vote on Nacho. AK could have easily thought that Bacde was the 5th vote, which was why she was asking about your criteria.
As I've repeatedly explained, AK wasn't deflecting, and I've explained this using everything from context to actual post structure. She asked about your criteria, and that question was a small part of a larger post, and therefore didn't hold as much weight. Your deflection was the main point of your post, as that was what the entire post was focused on. You were not asking about criteria, but why Khan wasn't looking elsewhere. You then proceeded to ask him why he did not read you as town. The entirety of your post was scummy, whereas AK's was not.In post 4318, Nero Cain wrote: This tells me that you are specifically attacking me, weather you think I'm a soft target or if weather I'm scumreading a buddy of yours, it doesn't matter. What matters is that you are selectively scumhunting me and I want to know why you find my "deflect scummy" but not Mollies or Kitties?
Are you now accusing Mollie of deflecting as well?
What about my defense looks scummy?In post 4318, Nero Cain wrote: I think your defense of Kittens is scummy. Weather they are town and you are defending them for cred or they are your scumbuddy doesn't really matter to me and we'll cross that bridge after you flip scum. The point is that, your defense of the slot looks scummy to me and that I and no one (besides the mods and your maybe scumbuddy) but you know if you are scum defending scum or scum defending town.
I'll be moving on to page 174, but first I need to take a break, as I'm incredibly frustrated atm.