NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

PeregrineV · Post Post #5375 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:35 am

In post 5374, Cephrir wrote:
In post 5354, mastin2 wrote:

Bulbazak is at L-2!
Rena is at L-2.

One-Hundred-Thirty-Sixth Votecount
:

(Eighteenth Votecount of Day Four,
AKA, the "Important enough change to warrant a second votecount" votecount.
)

Bulbazak - 6 (Nero Cain, ThAdmiral, Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Human Destroyer, Rena)

Rena - 6 (Cephrir, Nachomamma8, ffullisade, PeregrineV, Baezu, Desperado)

Nero Cain - 1 (Bulbazak)
Seanald - 1 (penguin_alien)

Not Voting - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)

With
15
alive, it's
8
to lynch.

Day Four's deadline is Wednesday, July 31st, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-07-31 12:30:00).

If deadline were to hit now,
Bulbazak
would be lynched.

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount
Bulbazak - 6 (Nero Cain, ThAdmiral, Seanald, CrashTextDummie,
Desperado
, Human Destroyer, Rena)
Rena - 6 (Cephrir, Nachomamma8, ffullisade, PeregrineV, Baezu,
Desperado
)
Nero Cain - 1 (Bulbazak)
Seanald - 1 (penguin_alien)

Not Voting - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)
Last votecount was page 215, post 5352.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D4
CrashTextDummie: Nero Cain->Bulbazak
Cephrir: Rena->PeregrineV->Rena
Nachomamma8: PeregrineV->Rena
PeregrineV: Nachomamma8->Cephrir->Rena
Nero Cain: Bulbazak
Bacde | Baezu: Nachomamma8->ThAdmiral | Rena
Bulbazak: Nero Cain
Desperado: Amethyst Kitty->PeregrineV->Bulbazak->Rena
penguin_alien: Rena->Unvote->Seanald
Seanald: Bulbazak
ThAdmiral: Bulbazak
Rena: Bulbazak
Amethyst Kitty:
ffullisade: PeregrineV->Rena->PeregrineV->Rena
Human Destroyer: Bulbazak->ThAdmiral->Bulbazak

Spoiler: Vote History D4
On Wed, Jul 7/10/13 @ 07:28a,
Human Destroyer
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 4831.
On Wed, Jul 7/10/13 @ 10:11a,
Nero Cain
votes
Bulbazak
in post 4832.
On Wed, Jul 7/10/13 @ 10:15a,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 4833.
On Wed, Jul 7/10/13 @ 02:24p,
Bulbazak
votes
Nero Cain
in post 4836.
On Wed, Jul 7/10/13 @ 02:33p,
Cephrir
votes
Rena
in post 4838.
On Thu, Jul 7/11/13 @ 02:26p,
PeregrineV
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 4867.
On Thu, Jul 7/11/13 @ 05:18p,
Nachomamma8
votes
PeregrineV
in post 4870.
On Thu, Jul 7/11/13 @ 06:04p,
CrashTextDummie
votes
Nero Cain
in post 4871.
On Fri, Jul 7/12/13 @ 08:38a,
Desperado
votes
Amethyst Kitty
in post 4879.
On Fri, Jul 7/12/13 @ 08:10p,
ThAdmiral
votes
Bulbazak
in post 4899.
On Sun, Jul 7/14/13 @ 04:25p,
Seanald
votes
Bulbazak
in post 4937.
On Mon, Jul 7/15/13 @ 00:12a,
penguin_alien
votes
Rena
in post 4942.
On Mon, Jul 7/15/13 @ 04:10p,
ffullisade
votes
PeregrineV
in post 4960.
On Mon, Jul 7/15/13 @ 04:15p,
Cephrir
votes
PeregrineV
in post 4961.
On Mon, Jul 7/15/13 @ 05:05p,
Desperado
votes
PeregrineV
in post 4965.
On Mon, Jul 7/15/13 @ 07:22p,
CrashTextDummie
votes
Bulbazak
in post 4966.
On Wed, Jul 7/17/13 @ 09:30a,
penguin_alien
unvotes
Rena
in post 4998.
On Wed, Jul 7/17/13 @ 04:18p,
Desperado
unvotes
PeregrineV
and votes
Bulbazak
in post 5018.
On Thu, Jul 7/18/13 @ 09:10a,
Human Destroyer
unvotes
Bulbazak
and votes
ThAdmiral
in post 5029.
On Thu, Jul 7/18/13 @ 12:57p,
Bacde
votes
ThAdmiral
in post 5044.
On Thu, Jul 7/18/13 @ 01:20p,
ffullisade
votes
Rena
in post 5046.
On Thu, Jul 7/18/13 @ 02:41p,
PeregrineV
votes
Cephrir
in post 5051.
On Sat, Jul 7/20/13 @ 07:48a,
Human Destroyer
unvotes
ThAdmiral
and votes
Bulbazak
in post 5129.
On Sun, Jul 7/21/13 @ 00:46a,
Cephrir
votes
Rena
in post 5136.
On Mon, Jul 7/22/13 @ 11:34a,
Rena
votes
Bulbazak
in post 5142.
On Mon, Jul 7/22/13 @ 01:12p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Rena
in post 5159.
On Mon, Jul 7/22/13 @ 03:16p,
ffullisade
votes
PeregrineV
in post 5200.
On Tue, Jul 7/23/13 @ 01:31a,
penguin_alien
votes
Seanald
in post 5231.
On Tue, Jul 7/23/13 @ 02:43p,
ffullisade
votes
Rena
in post 5298.
On Thu, Jul 7/25/13 @ 01:27p,
PeregrineV
votes
Rena
in post 5349.
On Thu, Jul 7/25/13 @ 01:37p,
Baezu
votes
Rena
in post 5350.
On Thu, Jul 7/25/13 @ 03:13p,
Desperado
unvotes
Bulbazak
and votes
Rena
in post 5353.

In post 5357, Baezu wrote: VOTE: Seanald

In post 5372, PeregrineV wrote:
Vote: Am Kitty
Also guys, this shit is not cute.

In 15 days, let's sum up your scumhunting:
Cephrir: Rena->PeregrineV->Rena
from 37 posts.

So, make a significant contribution or get vigged.

ISO · Post Post #5376 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:38 am

So it's only scumhunting if I change my vote 7 times?

You can keep your hostility btw.

PeregrineV · Post Post #5377 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:41 am

In post 5376, Cephrir wrote:So it's only scumhunting if I change my vote 7 times?

You can keep your hostility btw.

Not really feeling hostile, but your either scum or town who is not trying.

and scumhunting is evidence---evaluation---evidence---evaluation---etc. I'm not feeling that from you.

ISO · Post Post #5378 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:44 am

I may not be the one making the cases right now, but I've been looking at them and giving my opinions on them, and I've certainly been doing more than you. I don't really see what you're complaining about.

mastin2 · Post Post #5379 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:45 am

Bulbazak is at L-2!

One-Hundred-Thirty-Seventh Votecount

:

(Nineteenth Votecount of Day Four,

AKA, the "I go to MD for a few minutes, and I find a new page greeting me." votecount.

)

Bulbazak - 6 (Nero Cain, ThAdmiral, Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Human Destroyer, Rena)

Rena - 5 (Cephrir, Nachomamma8, ffullisade, Desperado, Amethyst Kitty)

Seanald - 2 (penguin_alien, Baezu)
Nero Cain - 1 (Bulbazak)
Amethyst Kitty - 1 (PeregrineV)

All votes are in play.

With

15

alive, it's

8

to lynch.

Day Four's deadline is Wednesday, July 31st, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-07-31 12:30:00).

If deadline were to hit now,

Bulbazak

would be lynched.

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Last votecount was page 215, post 5354.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D4

Spoiler: Vote History D4

Seanald · Post Post #5380 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:55 am

In post 5355, Rena wrote:at least one floating around elsewhere.

? theres only two wagons.

mastin2 · Post Post #5381 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:41 am

You know, one of the reasons I've been hesitating to write an article about combating apathy is because if I knew for sure what the solution would be as a moderator, I'd have applied it to this game.

Everyone is within activity guidelines, so much so that I can't deliver so much as a poke (yet alone, prod), and yet...despite that, the posting rate had dropped

drastically

, and it has me

quite

concerned as the moderator that apathy is setting in and people aren't enjoying/caring about this game, anymore. >_<

So, uh...please post? You're making me sad.

PeregrineV · Post Post #5382 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:50 am

Baezu · Post Post #5383 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:52 am

Desp, why not vote for Sean today?

ThAdmiral · Post Post #5384 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:42 pm

In post 5321, Baezu wrote:/confirm

Hey All! Lemme have a chance to look at things tonight and I'll post my reads as soon as I can.

Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:32 pm

In post 5332, Baezu wrote:Well I read through most of the thread and I actually agree with my predecessor's reads. Rena thad and nacho look scummy. AK and desp are null to scum. I know bulba is at L-1 but I'm not sure I want to hammer. If we reach deadline I will hammer but for now I feel he's null. If you have a specific person on whom you'd like me to give specific reads let me know. I'll write more once I'm on a computer

Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:31 am

I find it very hard to believe you read through most of the thread in that time. Lets assume it takes 5 minutes to read a page. 216 * 5 minutes = 1080 / 60 = 18 hours.
The difference between your two posts is only 16 hours, and I find it

slightly

hard to believe you were reading the entire time.

In post 5357, Baezu wrote:I mostly think Thad is scum for his fakeclaim.

In post 5357, Baezu wrote:Nacho is scummy for trying to push lynches, like the latest one:

In post 5236, Nachomamma8 wrote:PV you wanna vote Rena?
If Rena flips town like she claimed, I'm putting my vote here tomorrow.

This guy is a scream. We should keep him around for his entertainment values.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #5385 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:44 pm

Thinking about it I agree with ctd that bulb should be the lynch over rena today. We can go after rena tomorrow if we must.

penguin_alien · Post Post #5386 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:41 pm

In post 5351, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5031, penguin_alien wrote:What about Seanald? I know he's voting your preferred lynch, Nero Cain, but how is he not on this list where Bacde, for example, is? And I keep reading the back-and-forth between you and Bulbazak, and it's so focused on you disagreeing about the hypothetical composition of the neighborhoods and how you both have voted/been suspicious of others as a result.
Why did you feel the need to specifically use Bacde's name? Sean is lurking horribly so yeah, I have my doubts but idk...it doesn't seem as scummy as the other slots. Though I do vaguely remember him being lurky as scum.

I don't think that me and Bulb were arguing over his theory, I actually like his theory and think its plausible. What we were arguing over is him "dropping" it and "not willing to pick it back up" despite having Sean as a scum read. And he later some what contradicts himself when he claims that the reason he's "not willing to dive back into his theory" is 'cause he wants to lynch based on actual tells and not his theory but he was scum reading Sean for scumtelling.

I mentioned Bacde because he'd been a solid town read for me and your serious scum read on him surprised me. He was pretty involved in the thez lynch, more than I'd expect from counterpart-hunting red scum. And if he's blue scum, it strikes me as an odd tactic to push a buddy on the heels of losing a PR so early in such a big game.

So you think scum-Bulbazak decided to pop open the can of worms that is the neighborhood and then got cold feet...why? If he's scum with a teammate in the neighborhoods, he'd've known that before pushing Slandaar's lynch; if he's scum without a teammate in the neighborhoods, what's the motive for backing off? Sure, maybe he was putting up a front, but why keep it when you 're encouraging him to go for his scum reads?

Nero Cain · Post Post #5387 (ISO) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:43 pm

In post 5386, penguin_alien wrote:So you think scum-Bulbazak decided to pop open the can of worms that is the neighborhood and then got cold feet...why? If he's scum with a teammate in the neighborhoods, he'd've known that before pushing Slandaar's lynch; if he's scum without a teammate in the neighborhoods, what's the motive for backing off? Sure, maybe he was putting up a front, but why keep it when you 're encouraging him to go for his scum reads?

'cause I don't think it makes much sense for him to be so gung ho about his theory and then get wet feet.

If he's scum without a teammate the hood's are a good source of mislynch kindling. His intended plan is to mislynch me and then (maybe) go after Sean. If he doesn't have a buddy then its pretty clear that this is just a chain lynching scheme so that's what his motivation looks like for backing off...at least momentarily.

If he's scum with a team mate he's likely sincere about thinking that the other team has a buddy.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #5388 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:35 am

In post 5357, Baezu wrote:Nacho is scummy for trying to push lynches, like the latest one:

yes i'm trying to push lynches
it's a very important part of the game.

In post 5365, CrashTextDummie wrote:The alternative theory in which Rena is scum is that her own team blocked ThAd, in which case her claim to have targeted him herself with no result makes no sense at all, for similar reasons. All theories involving Rena-scum basically assume that she's falling on her own sword for no apparent reason, and I really don't see why this is supposed to be more likely than scenarios that have KK in the mix and allow for her to be town.

And I suppose there's also the possibility that there is no scum roleblocker and ThAd/Bulbazak got jailkept and after Rena saw ThAd's kill not go through Rena thought that she would be safe to claim that she was blocked based on her understanding of how jailkeepers work re: #5311.

In post 5375, PeregrineV wrote:In 15 days, let's sum up your scumhunting:
Cephrir: Rena->PeregrineV->Rena
from 37 posts.

So, make a significant contribution or get vigged.

Your voting history was three votes long at the time of the votecount you quoted. Mine is two long, and many others have shorter VCH's.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #5389 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:37 am

In post 5379, mastin2 wrote:4 days, 3 hours, 53 minutes.

and still no one wants to join the nero cain wagon
pv, what the fuck are you doing?

ffullisade · Post Post #5390 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:20 am

In post 5389, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5379, mastin2 wrote:4 days, 3 hours, 53 minutes.
and still no one wants to join the nero cain wagon
pv, what the fuck are you doing?

wait we are on rena what are you talking about here

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #5391 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:22 am

That was directed at Bulbazak.

Desperado · Post Post #5392 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:16 am

In post 5383, Baezu wrote:Desp, why not vote for Sean today?

Because everything Rena has said today has looked fake/like she isn't reading the thread, despite her having an extremely powerful role that entirely depends on her ability to read the game and predict the scum's behavior. Her posts don't give any indication that she's capable of that, or even interested in doing so...which means she's faking it.

Desperado · Post Post #5393 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:16 am

In post 5383, Baezu wrote:Desp, why not vote for Sean today?

Because everything Rena has said today has looked fake/like she isn't reading the thread, despite her having an extremely powerful role that entirely depends on her ability to read the game and predict the scum's behavior. Her posts don't give any indication that she's capable of that, or even interested in doing so...which means she's faking it.

ffullisade · Post Post #5394 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:19 am

In post 5392, Desperado wrote:
In post 5383, Baezu wrote:Desp, why not vote for Sean today?
Because everything Rena has said today has looked fake/like she isn't reading the thread, despite her having an extremely powerful role that entirely depends on her ability to read the game and predict the scum's behavior. Her posts don't give any indication that she's capable of that, or even interested in doing so...which means she's faking it.

this. so much of this. and more of this.

she did it in the previous day round as well

ffullisade · Post Post #5395 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:29 am

I mean I don't even understand why she isn't lynched already

Nero Cain · Post Post #5396 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:57 am

question: Nacho had attacked me for attacking Rena. What does this say about his slot?

Desperado · Post Post #5397 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:58 am

How about you provide some context for that? When he attacked you is pretty relevant.

Nero Cain · Post Post #5398 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:59 am

I hate quote mining. but gimmie a sec.

ffullisade · Post Post #5399 (ISO) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:05 am

In post 5396, Nero Cain wrote:question: Nacho had attacked me for attacking Rena. What does this say about his slot?

he also attacked you before he realised rena scum so