Mini 1463 (it has shitty jokes) over

[Om of the Nom]

So these votes on RC are stupid and bandwagony (Smudger's even more so) especially when there are worse offenders of the crimes he's committed *points to Bub*.

Also Bub is trying to play the defeatist side and I'm not buying it. Especially when he's not going to give any sort of follow-up to it.

[yessiree]

1 - Although NTP voted Kid A on day 1, he wasn't too keen on pushing it. It was a very safe place to put his vote on. If either of them get lynched, the other will turn out to look very towny.

2 - Kid A switched his vote multiple times before landing on NTP, all with shitty backing.

3 - Kid A said his original vote on NTP was to test association tells.

the ntp lynch was originally to test my associative read between him and alabaska j

i changed my mind since then and now its probably ntp/om/yes

So his association tells says Om and Yessiree are scum, when Om has been the most pro-town player in the game.

4 - Then he proceeds to his "case" on NTP based on NTP's reactions. This is fine, but some of the conclusions he arrived at are questionable.

seriously what are these reactions??

lynching ntp will give us the most information imo
VOTE: notthepopeVOTE:

What information would you get?

Damnit DCL, I was going to ask that.

Take a townpoint or two.

basically a shitpost with buddying thrown in

In the same post he had his association tells in, he claims NTP is buddying DCL.
BUT LOOK WHO DIED?

Yo I think someone is scum
And I'm so certain that person is scum
But I won't use my vote to try to win the game lulz


^ Generic in his prime

lynching ntp will give us the most information imo

Alright
I've tried to be calm
Rational
And serene
So answer this right and I won't drop a fucking brick on your balls
What information will you gain?

reaction is bad because its like 2 posts later and it wasnt even like id posted something antagonizing
no need to lose your shit this badly over 1 vote

The reason was shit, and anyone can see it's shit. But you're just lucky it worked out because your knew vote landed on a bad scum player who was all tangled up with the shitty arguments with generic.


VOTE: Kid A

[yessiree]

VOTE: Kid A

[Kid A]

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[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, that last post by Bub makes me far less happy by him.

I don't know why anyone else doesn't see my case on Kid A that Yessiree is now following up on; why don't you think Kid A is scum?

[Kid A]

also note the chainsaw defence of his partner om of the nom who helped the town by hard bussing for the full day

[RadiantCowbells]

That why is directed at Om of the Nom by the way.

[Kid A]

anyone else starting to feel omnom and yessiree could be a team?

well hey i have bigger fish to fry in NTP but if you want to join me on yesiree then i'll gladly follow

any chance of u following up on this

[yessiree]

also note the chainsaw defence of his partner om of the nom who helped the town by hard bussing for the full day

your reasoning is still shit.
Om is one of the first pushers of the NTP lynch. When Om voted NTP, there weren't many votes on him atm. That was not bussing on Om's part to any extent. Om's reasons also made more sense than your herpderp backings.

anyone else starting to feel omnom and yessiree could be a team?

well hey i have bigger fish to fry in NTP but if you want to join me on yesiree then i'll gladly follow

any chance of u following up on this

So you suspect both of us, and is making one vote the other.
MAKES SENSE

[Generic]

I never said anything about how town NTP was. I considered him scummy, but still a bad wagon.
If someone is 20% scum and another person is 50% scum, lynching the 20% scum is a bad wagon.

Generic, why are you acting like me and Bub are the same person? We're not.
We just happen to mutually agree on a scumread and for my part I consider him town.

I'm feeling Smudger/Kid A/NTP.

My mind has been made up for a while, sweetheart.

-_^

I think I've mixed you with someone else. Bub and another player were giving everyone hell over voting for NTP.

Best with me, will take a look back...

[Kid A]

anyone else starting to feel omnom and yessiree could be a team?

well hey i have bigger fish to fry in NTP but if you want to join me on yesiree then i'll gladly follow

any chance of u following up on this

So you suspect both of us, and is making one vote the other.
MAKES SENSE

yeah man its almost as if i want to see if om of the nom will try and wiggle out of voting their last partner??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[Generic]

The NTP wagon sucks and everyone on it is earning themselves huge scumpoints.

Look, it was you cowbells. Everyone on the wagon of a now confirmed scum player was earning themselves scum points. What's the cash value on those points of yours cowbells? Three fifths of fuck all it seems.

My name is Ike and I approve of the previous message.

You were endorsing a bub post telling everyone we weren't lunching NTP because it was stupid... Stupid to lynch scum?

Let's lynch Kid-A instead and then discuss what to do about NTP tomorrow.

Typical scum tactic to try and find a way onto bussing a teammate without looking like a scummy u-turn.


And this crap about NTP being 20% scum is crap, he was 109% scum in the end... So why would your read on kid A be accurate?

[Smudger]

So these votes on RC are stupid and bandwagony (Smudger's even more so)

especially when there are worse offenders of the crimes he's committed

*points to Bub*.

Also Bub is trying to play the defeatist side and I'm not buying it. Especially when he's not going to give any sort of follow-up to it.

could you elaborate please the bolded part,

[Smudger]

So these votes on RC are stupid and bandwagony (Smudger's even more so)

especially when there are worse offenders of the crimes he's committed

*points to Bub*.

Also Bub is trying to play the defeatist side and I'm not buying it. Especially when he's not going to give any sort of follow-up to it.

could you elaborate please the bolded part,

fixed

[RadiantCowbells]

My statement remains true. I strongly believe that all scum are on the NTP wagon.

Therefore, anyone who is on it has earned scumpoints. Comprende?

[Om of the Nom]

anyone else starting to feel omnom and yessiree could be a team?

well hey i have bigger fish to fry in NTP but if you want to join me on yesiree then i'll gladly follow

any chance of u following up on this

ye maybe later i mean yesiree isn't as big of a scumread as he was yesterday so i'll see how things turn out

I don't know why anyone else doesn't see my case on Kid A that Yessiree is now following up on; why don't you think Kid A is scum?

I have been getting super townie vibes from Kid A all game and I really think he's just the kind of player who is often misunderstood and I see genuine scumhunting being attempted by him, but the persuasiveness of his attacks is hindered by his constant stumbling on words leading to him being suspected for saying scummy things. Basically I just feel like he's making an honest effort but his sup-par communication ability is being taken advantage of by scum.

PEDIT:

So these votes on RC are stupid and bandwagony (Smudger's even more so)

especially when there are worse offenders of the crimes he's committed

*points to Bub*.

Also Bub is trying to play the defeatist side and I'm not buying it. Especially when he's not going to give any sort of follow-up to it.

could you elaborate please the bolded part,

I don't see what needs elaboration. A lot of what people are voting RC for are things that Bub was guilty of too to an even further degree. Your reason for voting him is not taken into account here because it's, quite frankly, extremely dumb because having two people you would like to wagon at once is not a sign of indecisiveness nor is it scummy.

[Kid A]

I strongly believe that all scum are on the NTP wagon.

ok at this point anyone who was considering sheeping RC needs to re evaluate

[Om of the Nom]

I strongly believe that all scum are on the NTP wagon.

ok at this point anyone who was considering sheeping RC needs to re evaluate

While this option is not completely out of the blue I struggle to see who the scum would be if it were true.

[Generic]

So you stand by the NTP wagon sucking? The one that got a mafia player lynched?

A wagon you are suddenly willing to hammer when all else was lost.

And now you are trying damage limitation to try and clear anyone who didn't vote for NTP.

[Generic]

*you WERE suddenly willing...

[yessiree]

double bussing does throw town off guard every now and then

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, okay Generic.
What I stand by is that the people on it earned major scumpoints, which is logical if you take into consideration that I believe all the scum are on that wagon.
I believe this because I firmly believe that at some point in time in the first 3 days, NTP was getting lynched.
I believe this because several people hated him for being a hydra, there was water to the scumminess accusations, etc.
I think the mafia came to the same conclusions. It follows that they would both try to bus him for towncred.

The wagon was obviously good considering it lynched scum, but that doesn't mean the people on it all are.

PEDIT: Yeah, that was obviously a double bus to me.
I was never totally averse to the idea of a NTP lynch. I would have most likely voted him up day 2 after Kid A flipped scum.

[Generic]

It's also a convenient assumption that mafia players would join the growing wagon of a teammate.

The difference here is that we had a wagon on NTP at L-1 and one on kid A at L-2. In fact at one point they both sat at L-2.

If all remaining mafia were on the NTP wagon they had opportunity to spare him and condemn kid A. That why I think this idea is a smokescreen.

[Kid A]

Yeah, okay Generic.

1

What I stand by is that the people on it earned major scumpoints, which is logical if you take into consideration that I believe all the scum are on that wagon.

2

I was never totally averse to the idea of a NTP lynch. I would have most likely voted him up day 2 after Kid A flipped scum.

1) you are going to have to quote some examples of scummy ppl being on the ntp wagon and saying scummy things (some of them have to be not me)

2) if you were happy with a lynch on the person at l-1 why didnt you claim intent??

[Generic]

Oh I see now, you think BOTH wagons were for scum players. I was working on the assumption I have that kid A is town, but if you look at both as scum you are suggesting that the other mafia player (is there three in total?) made the decision that NTP was the more likely lynch.