Mini 1463 (it has shitty jokes) over

[DCLXVI]

he is not at L-1 with someone ready to hammer. in fact, it might be more productive to have them both claim.

NO, we want as few claims as possible. More claims is very bad, it's not beneficial to the town to risk outing power roles day 1.

[DCLXVI]

@Alabaska

Claims should only happen when someone is at L-1 and someone else has definitively declared an intent to hammer.

Your worries about there not being a lynch are unsubstatiated. There is two days left which actually is a significant amount of time. I had a recent game I can point to where we got someone from L-5 to being lynched in 12 hours (without a guilty) granted, it ended up being a mislynch but the point is we will be able to get a lynch in.

[Alabaska J]

Claims should only happen when someone is at L-1 and someone else has definitively declared an intent to hammer.

...so the current situation. also, i agree you want to out as few power roles as possible, i'm not asking for a massclaim or anything. but if we are going to have a stalemate over who should be claim, why not have both claim? do people really think that if we lynch one, the other will not be a lynch target the next day? if we are so split over who to lynch, and you are saying NTP shouldn't claim because of a lesser (but still significant) wagon on kid a, what makes the kid a wagon a better target for a claim? because you are voting him? we are going to have people arguing over which person should claim and which wagon should go to lynch, so why not have them both claim so we don't get locked in a stalemate over who to have claim? if we do make a decision and that person claims a pr, then we either lynched the pr (not preferred) or then have the other person claim, and we have two claims anyway. if one of these guys is a pr, then we are gonna get stuck with two claims regardless.

anyway, you've sided with no claims i believe, so let's wait and hear what others have to say. let me add that your rushed lynch was a mislynch...that should say enough right there. these two wagons have been building for some time, especially NTP who has been a suspect most of the day. i'd be perfectly fine if we could agree to have one of these two people claim only, but i just don't see that happening because i assume the preferences will fall the same way as the votes have already.

[Alabaska J]

So you're voting me because of my Anti-town playstyle? Not because you thinmk I'm scum?

no. not at all. great misrep. i SPECIFICALLY SAID your anti-town playstyle was a nulltell in that post!!!!!

i don't see his withholding as a scumtell, it fits within his anti-town playstyle for the most part.

[TheIrishPope]

Wow, chill Ala
DCL is spot on, we don't want people claiming silly nilly to create a clusterfuck where we can't scout scum
- TIP

[NotThePope]

Wow, chill Ala
DCL is spot on, we don't want people claiming silly nilly to create a clusterfuck where we can't scout scum

[Alabaska J]

Wow, chill Ala
DCL is spot on, we don't want people claiming silly nilly to create a clusterfuck where we can't scout scum

yet again, not what i said. read my posts! i want everyone in the town to WEIGH IN on who should claim; it is my personal opinion that both of you should. two misreps in such a short time are making me feel better and better about my vote

[Alabaska J]

weird i saw my own post in the forced preview thingy

[NotThePope]

My bad, probably confused you with the format
I'm telling you to chill
I'm telling everyone that DCL is right

[Alduskkel]

I think NTP should claim.

[Bub Bidderskins]

I think he shouldn't because we are NOT lynching him today. That would be amazingly stupid.

[RadiantCowbells]

My name is Ike and I approve of the previous message.

[Tierce]

Vote Count 1.15

yessiree

( 0 )

Generic

( 1 ) TMTOLBTWNTOF

Mutleyddmc

levio

( 0 )

Kid A

( 5 ) RadiantCowbells , DCLXVI , yessiree , Bub Bidderskins , NotThePope

DCLXVI

( 0 )

Bub Bidderskins

( 0 )

Alabaska J

( 0 )

NotThePope

( 6 ) Om of the Nom , Generic , Kid A , Alduskkel , Alabaska J , Mutleyddmc

TMTOLBTWNTOF

( 0 )

Smudger

( 0 )

RadiantCowbells

( 1 ) Smudger

Alduskkel

absta101

( 0 )

Om of the Nom

( 0 )

Not voting:

None

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2013-07-08 09:36:53)

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[Alabaska J]

My name is Ike and I approve of the previous message.

I think he shouldn't because we are NOT lynching him today. That would be amazingly stupid.

would either of you like to maybe expand upon these statements? both of you have made blanket statements like these without backing them up all game. would love to hear an actual, evidence-based case from either of you. note the two misreps that happened right above.

[Smudger]

There is nothing wrong with NTP witholding a claim until absolutely necessary. In fact, I find it rather towny, given how close he is to being lynched I would think scum NTP would rather appease town then attempt to piss them off.

I disagree, the closer to DL the more likely it is to cause confusion and provide a no lynch or mislynch, you need to claim early so it can be discussed.

I have read again, I will vote NTP. Therefore I intend to Hammer.

[N]

I'm back. Thanks Tierce.

Spoiler:

Prodding Om of the Nom and TMTOLBTWNTOF

[Om of the Nom]

If it gets to less than 6 hours left without a claim from NTP and he's still at L-1 then just lynch him anyway. I don't want to risk a no-lynch on D1, especially when by not moving I'm furthering the chances of a scum lynch.

[Smudger]

I am currently at 1542 hrs my time, as I work it DL is 0854 hrs my time on Tuesday? Which means he has less time than that to claim in.

[DCLXVI]

I see 23 hours left as of this post.

[NotThePope]

Fuck you guys, there's a thing called timezones
We're a Bomb.

[Kid A]

a supersaint bomb or a night bomb?

[Smudger]

Fuck you guys, there's a thing called timezones
We're a Bomb.

Time is time regardless of where you are in the world, and it waits for no-one.

[DCLXVI]

I believe NTP's claim. The claim fits with his hesitancy to claim in the first place and it doesn't seem like a likely fakeclaim. I absolutely do NOT want him lynched.

But this brings up a dilemma.

If NTP is town, he will never die. He will be around through every lylo.

We have to decide right now what we are going to do. EIther he lives now, and lives the rest of the game, or he dies now. Let's not half ass this and consider him a lynch possibility every day.

Please move your votes to kid-A, there is still plenty of time to lynch him instead.

[Alduskkel]

I definitely don't want NTP alive at lylo. And I definitely don't see what's unlikely about it as a fakeclaim.

It's not like "Bomb" is some super duper pro-town role. We aren't losing much even if he is Town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Let's lynch Kid-A instead and then discuss what to do about NTP tomorrow.