Mini 1463 (it has shitty jokes) over

Alduskkel · Post Post #325 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:30 am

These are my notes on this game, please read it if you enjoy watching someone slowly lose their sanity

Spoiler: Notes

CONCLUSIONS:
This game is plagued by inactivity and players of questionable quality. The Kid A wagon sucks and is exactly the sort of wagon I would expect to come out of a game like this (i.e., let's wagon a player for bad reasons because he can't defend himself well).

List of players who have a vote on someone but aren't actually pressuring that person: Alabaska J, Kid A, Smudger, TMT.
In addition, yessiree and NTP both need to just plain get it together.

Quick list of pending questions (mostly for my benefit): Kid A needs to answer more clearly why an NTP lynch gets more info, DCL should probably followup on #207 somehow, and yessiree should actually analyze the players he is basically posting the ISOs of.

@Om and/or Generic: Convince me that NTP is scum.

Generic · Post Post #326 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:09 am

Post #223 is where my NTP case is...

Om of the Nom · Post Post #327 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:15 am

In post 325, Alduskkel wrote:@Om and/or Generic: Convince me that NTP is scum.

Trust my scumhunting powah and maybe we can make some magic happen.

No but seriously everything I said right when I replaced in is still pretty much valid and now that the focus isn't on NTP he's kinda just dropped his activity levels and nobody's really giving a shit so he's kinda just coasting along without pressure omg.
I literally can't explain why I just have him as a massive scumread over other people though, it's basically every single post of his incites the wrath of my gut and I literally don't go more than a single post of his without getting terribly large amounts of scumvibes that burn with the passion of a flaming heart.

Also I just want you to say that I totally see what you mean about this type of game I literally feel like a whole bunch of the players in this game aren't quite up to par yet, and while that's not a terrible thing I just feel like people are getting attacked for things they shouldn't and others are coasting when they shouldn't be at all and everyone just sounds like scum to me right now because I'm having trouble differentiating between inexperience and legitimate scumminess and gah this game is such a headache.

Alduskkel · Post Post #328 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:53 am

As awesome as a Generic-Om-Ald town voting bloc would be, I can't bring myself to vote NTP at the moment. Generic's case is too much relational tells and "I hate hydras" and Om's case is too much stretching and gut (which sound like unfortunate medical side effects).

NTP just reads too much like a disorganized hydra rather than scum.

I'll do a bit of meta research later and if I don't like what I see I'll probably vote NTP. (I'll mainly be looking for quality of scumhunting in other games.)

(I'd vote Smudger except that I actually sort of like his recent posts. Ugh.)

Om of the Nom · Post Post #329 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:56 am

NTP is literally nothing but hydra dissonance and they keep claiming that they're discuss things in the QT but they've been blaming each other for their own scummy actions instead of explaining their motivations and it's just a massive cop out.

NotThePope · Post Post #330 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:11 am

lol
If you think players are "sub par", then replace out
The hydra dissonance will be addressed, do not fret
- TIP

N · Post Post #331 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:20 am

Vote Count 1.12

yessiree

( 0 )

Generic

( 1 ) TMTOLBTWNTOF

levio

( 0 )

Kid A

( 5 ) RadiantCowbells , DCLXVI , yessiree , Bub Bidderskins , NotThePope

DCLXVI

( 0 )

Bub Bidderskins

( 2 ) Alabaska J , Smudger

Alabaska J

( 0 )

NotThePope

( 3 ) Om of the Nom , Generic , Kid A

TMTOLBTWNTOF

( 0 )

Smudger

( 0 )

RadiantCowbells

( 0 )

Alduskkel

absta101

( 0 )

Om of the Nom

( 0 )

Not voting:

levio Alduskkel

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2013-07-08 09:36:53)

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yessiree · Post Post #332 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:28 am

lol Alduskkel I got my own scum-hunting techniques so FUCK YOU

Kid A · Post Post #333 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:32 am

the ntp lynch was originally to test my associative read between him and alabaska j

i changed my mind since then and now its probably ntp/om/yes

seriously what are these reactions??

In post 220, NotThePope wrote:
In post 218, DCLXVI wrote:
In post 216, Kid A wrote:lynching ntp will give us the most information imo
VOTE: notthepopeVOTE:
What information would you get?
Damnit DCL, I was going to ask that.

Take a townpoint or two.

basically a shitpost with buddying thrown in

In post 224, NotThePope wrote:Yo I think someone is scum
And I'm so certain that person is scum
But I won't use my vote to try to win the game lulz

^ Generic in his prime

In post 216, Kid A wrote:lynching ntp will give us the most information imo
Alright
I've tried to be calm
Rational
And serene
So answer this right and I won't drop a fucking brick on your balls
What information will you gain?

reaction is bad because its like 2 posts later and it wasnt even like id posted something antagonizing
no need to lose your shit this badly over 1 vote

In post 281, NotThePope wrote:Yeah TMT, it was notsci.

Anyone else feel like Kid A is just setting a vote down and riding the currents?

Content with him/Generic dead today.

In post 285, NotThePope wrote:Hey, we do have a QT, and we discuss reads, but we are really dissonant
Silly NS

In post 282, Kid A wrote:content with notthepope or notthepope today
YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED THE FUCKING QUESTION YOU SCUMFUCK

seriously why is he so hung up on my vote??

In post 315, NotThePope wrote:I'm sorry NS, but Kid A needs a vote up his butt
VOTE: Kid A

why

yessiree · Post Post #334 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:16 am

Kid A your scum reads suck chodes

NotThePope · Post Post #335 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:30 am

I'm not hung up on the vote
You can notice because I'm not attacking my other voters
I'm hung up on the fact that you say things without backing them up, and you don't answer questions, and that deserves rope
- TIP

Kid A · Post Post #336 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:20 am

In post 334, yessiree wrote:Kid A your scum reads suck chodes

we will see yessiree

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #337 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:25 am

In post 317, Kid A wrote:
In post 311, Bub Bidderskins wrote:
Smudger is still scummy btw, but that catch by cowbells is massive. Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip, but then he still wants to get onto the hot NTP wagon. That is such a massive scumslip. Cowbells is conf. town. Kid A is conf. scum.

Lynch him now. I will not be happy with any other lynch today.
this is the misreppiest misrep to ever misrep

a suggestion that levio could be mafia expecting ntp to flip town is miles away from "Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip"

using words like scumslip and conf inappropriately might make you think your case looks really good but it entirely hinges on something you made up :c

I didn't make this up, I'm just sheeping cowbells here. And your futile defense make you look even more scummy.

In post 323, Smudger wrote:
In post 311, Bub Bidderskins wrote:Smudger is still scummy btw,
pray do tell as this will be interesting?

I already have said why you are scummy, and nothing that has been said has changed my reads on that.

Smudger · Post Post #338 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:31 am

I am online but reading up and welcomed Aldusskel.

Will post tomorrow as there are some interesting things I have read. Off to bed now am 4+ GMT

Alduskkel · Post Post #339 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:24 am

In post 330, NotThePope wrote:The hydra dissonance will be addressed, do not fret
- TIP

How so, and by when?

Kid A · Post Post #340 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:49 am

In post 337, Bub Bidderskins wrote:
In post 317, Kid A wrote:
In post 311, Bub Bidderskins wrote:
Smudger is still scummy btw, but that catch by cowbells is massive. Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip, but then he still wants to get onto the hot NTP wagon. That is such a massive scumslip. Cowbells is conf. town. Kid A is conf. scum.

Lynch him now. I will not be happy with any other lynch today.
this is the misreppiest misrep to ever misrep

a suggestion that levio could be mafia expecting ntp to flip town is miles away from "Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip"

using words like scumslip and conf inappropriately might make you think your case looks really good but it entirely hinges on something you made up :c
I didn't make this up, I'm just sheeping cowbells here. And your futile defense make you look even more scummy.

i have posted quotes that directly contradict your case on me you lil bitch

Alabaska J · Post Post #341 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:00 am

In post 191, yessiree wrote:Generic, no body does team speculations on day 1. save that shit for later

that's too blanket a statement for my liking. you should discuss anything that you think could contribute to scumhunting. however, i agree Generic was overreacting to NTP's vote

In post 199, Kid A wrote:VOTE: alabaska j

you should vote people you think are scummy, not people who are on vacation and can't defend themselves. if you even have any opinions on anyone. why don't you post your views on each player? why do you care about my views on NTP? it should be obvious i have a slight scumread on him (at least at this point) but i like bub better. why tunnel on me like this unless you are scum looking for something to latch onto so you can say you are contributing when in actuality you are coasting?

In post 201, absta101 wrote:Generic hasn't voted at all iirc. Such bs.

great observation. i'm eager to see how the rest of these pages unfold and where this leads

In post 202, Generic wrote:And I won't be voting until I see a need to. Just because you demand it doesn't make it likely to happen.

he didn't demand it, it just seemed quite irregular for you not to choose the one you felt strongest about. the game has gone far enough that not voting seems a bit queer seeing as you have scumreads on people

In post 210, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm still here!

I just haven't had much to say.

really??? why don't you start by giving us three people who you think are scummy and three you think are town

In post 216, Kid A wrote:lynching ntp will give us the most information imo
VOTE: notthepopeVOTE:

what the heck are you doing? i feel like you are playing IRC mafia and everyone else is playing forum mafia

In post 220, NotThePope wrote:
In post 218, DCLXVI wrote:
In post 216, Kid A wrote:lynching ntp will give us the most information imo
VOTE: notthepopeVOTE:
What information would you get?
Damnit DCL, I was going to ask that.

Take a townpoint or two.

that was an obvious response. how does DCL get townpoints for that exactly?

In post 224, NotThePope wrote:Yo I think someone is scum
And I'm so certain that person is scum
But I won't use my vote to try to win the game lulz

^ Generic in his prime

In post 216, Kid A wrote:lynching ntp will give us the most information imo
Alright
I've tried to be calm
Rational
And serene
So answer this right and I won't drop a fucking brick on your balls
What information will you gain?

remind me never to play a game with whichever head this is. great omgussy misrep on generic's case against you, btw

In post 227, NotThePope wrote:
In post 225, Generic wrote:
In post 224, NotThePope wrote:Yo I think someone is scum
And I'm so certain that person is scum
But I won't use my vote to try to win the game lulz

^ Generic in his prime

In post 216, Kid A wrote:lynching ntp will give us the most information imo
Alright
I've tried to be calm
Rational
And serene
So answer this right and I won't drop a fucking brick on your balls
What information will you gain?
The one with the lower iq must have the keyboard.
I wasn't going to vote until I had done the review of you. When I did, I voted. I have just responded to being asked why I voted with the case.

Your response is to mock me for not voting... Riiiight.
Pathetic, really. You have to sink down to trying to slander my other head rather than come up with any sort of refutation. Scuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum

and now both heads have joined in the OMGUS. why don't you refute his points instead of accusing him of slander? also any comment from this half on kid a's ridiculousness?

In post 228, Generic wrote:Thanks for continuing to justify my vote, you have no defence so you build straw men instead. Keep on digging that hole.

well put. oddly enough, i think generic is soundly winning this argument so far after being on the hot seat for a bit

In post 232, Om of the Nom wrote:
In post 231, NotThePope wrote:Meanwhile, lets take a look at Generic, shall we?

First 5 posts- OMG HYDRAS CHEATING INSTA SCUMREAD OMFG GET THEM OUT

162- Nothing really, townreading people (wait, isn't it easier for scum to townhunt?)
166- Buddying and more townhunting.
The 4 posts from 172-187- Fluff posts, there to make him look like he's doing things but all in all he has done nothing.
188- Trying to force associative tells on the fact there is a wagon on him. Says that "affirms" his previous misgivings about my slot, which until that point had been expressed simply due to the fact we're a hydra.
190- I don't have time to focus on this game, when at the time he seems to have plenty of time for other games.
193- Newbie defense, strange. Doesn't seem to have played that card until he has a decent sized wagon on him.
194- More associative tells without a flip to appear scumhunting
196- Thanks captain obvious, your theory there really makes me think you're town! (Not.)
223- Wall of l0lbadcase
225- Him breaking rules
228- More fluff

Tell me folks, does that man seem town to you?
Do you know what IIoA is?

You're both acting like children, actually.
However, I'm inclined to believe Generic at this point, because when NTP was presented with an argument as to why Generic didn't vote immediately, NTP focused on the insult instead of the explanation, while claiming that his point was never refuted. He's ignoring a lot of information to try and portray Generic in a bad light.

this sums up everything on this argument i could want to say. i also agree that the naked vote on yessiree for pressure was weird for NTP. just voting someone doesn't necessarily put pressure on them; creating a case does, which ntp doesn't do. these empty pressure votes are a great way for scum to hide their vote somewhere while distancing from partners or coasting in games.

also, here yessiree conveniently forgets to quote

generic's actual case against NTP

. what a misrep!!!! red flag alert.

In post 246, DCLXVI wrote:Actually, patience is not a virtue I've often been accused of having.

vote:om

towny points to whoever figures out why ommy is being scummy

He could still talk his way to my good side I suppose, but I'm finding it unlikely.

what?? you are blowing this way out of proportion. he thinks one person is scummy and doesn't entertain your hypothetical that he and the guy he is arguing with are both town so you vote him? you are trying to stir stuff up out of nothing; definitely looks like a scum tactic to me.

also, yessiree, why are you quoting other people's cases? what are you trying to accomplish exactly?

In post 250, yessiree wrote:Also, the arguments between NTP and generic going nowhere, would two scums do something like this?

i know this isn't directed at me, but come on. of course they would.

In post 260, RadiantCowbells wrote:Nevermind. I'll just go ahead with this.

We're lynching Kid A today, not NTP.

All quotes are from the Radiohead fanboi.

In post 53, Kid A wrote:
In post 51, Bub Bidderskins wrote:
In post 39, RadiantCowbells wrote:Let's get this day moving.

VOTE: NotThePope
And how exactly does this vote get the day moving along? Yes, bandwagons can move the day along, but not just because they exist. You simply jumped onto the bandwagon and did nothing to actually get the game moving. Furthermore, the whole bandwagon on notthepope is stupid because he's most likely town.
VOTE: Bub Bidderskins
Here, he makes an unsubstantiated vote on Bub Bidderskins after he implies that I'm scum. The manner in which he does this with no explanation to me indicates that he's defending me; like he's trying to buddy, or more loosely that he thinks I'm town. This becomes important later.

scum hydrae often wrestle with votes because they are both paranoid about being vcad and because their votes are never truly genuine

VOTE: notthepope
More voting people who vote me. Really setting up to be best buds here.

This still wouldn't be bad until later.

just gotta look at how the two heads play and respond to each other and figure out if they have town or mafia motivation

Personally I don't think it made sense for them to vote wrestle when they weren't in danger of lynching someone and I also don't like how one of them keeps townreading everyone who pushes on them
I actually can't say anything negative about this, He points out something that's genuinely scummy on his scumread.

i disagree with the people above me levio just told us they were voting the largest wagon over their scumread because ntp hasnt omgused absta

imo this is an attempt to look town because levio expects ntp to flip town and they dont want to look like they pushed a mislynch

VOTE: levio
This is where things REALLY get interesting.

Kid A's vote is on NTP because he thinks he's scum, right? Now, there's "levio expects ntp to flip town"

yeah but if we assume levio is scum being on the wagon is still beneficial to mafia and i really cant see any town motivation for voting the person who isnt your scumread

if ntp flipped mafia i would still be worried about levio voting mafia even though they think absta is the mafia, it would give me the impression that levio has more information than us
This sounds like he thinks he's onto something big.

Then he just completely lets it drop.

radiantcowbells you keep bwing people with little to no reasoning & not making your own cases, IMO you are trying to be unassuming but the lack of good content makes you stick out as scum to me
VOTE: radiantcowbells
Now he's on some other wagon agaisnt a person that he tried to buddy earlier.

someone is riled :c
Oh hey, the guy I voted because I think heis scum just voted me back.

Appropriate reactions?

a) Decide he's not scum for reasons and switch my vote.
b) Push everyone else to realize how scummy his OMGUS vote is.
c) Say "someone is riled :c"

He keeps his vote on me yet is obviously completely uninterested in pushing my lynch.

spot the difference
Again, he's not encouraging anyone to vote his scumread. He's just defending himself by comparing himself to me; something that suggests that I'm town by virtue of comparison, even though his stated position is that I'm scum and thus if we have similar ISO's, that makes us BOTH scum.

post your fucking read on him or you are being anti town
Active lurking.

doesnt this contradict the post i quoted
Interesting, and followed up with a vote. This actually looks pretty good, he finds a reason to suggest that someone is scum, then votes for them. Until...

lynching ntp will give us the most information imo
WHAT THE FUCK.

TL;DR This guy gives about as many fucks about scumhunting as Bowie does about sailors fighting in the dance hall.

VOTE: Unvote
VOTE: Kid A

(I already voted him but that makes it more dramatic)

great post. i will strongly consider voting kid a at the end of this post

In post 269, DCLXVI wrote:Let's say I have reads on two players. A & B. I think A is scum and I think B may be town or scum. Which of the following statements may more sense concerning that read?

1: A and B cannot both be town.
2. A is scum and B could be either alignment.

Option two makes the most sense, yet om opted for option 1, which does not make sense if his reads truly are what he says they are.

dcl continues to nitpick and mince words. semantics is not that important and to me a huge scumtell. right now, bub, dcl, and kid a are my biggest scumreads, with ntp in fourth

In post 272, DCLXVI wrote:
In post 270, Om of the Nom wrote:So I'm scum because I said what you didn't think I'd say?
What I said was just a roundabout way of saying option 2, so why is option 1 only something scum would say?
Would it make any sense for me to say the following? Om and TMT cannot both be town because Om is scum for sure. No, that does not make any damn sense.

Here is what I think.

You said that two players cannot both be scum. Then, if you get the chance to mislynch one of them, you can then just logically push for a mislynch of the other. However, you got called out on that statement and you didn't have a good way to defend it so you just bs'd into saying NTP must be scum for sure so that is how my statement works. While that may be technically true, it doesn't fit the normal use of that phrase (one of them must be scum, or both can't be town) and has an obvious scum use.

I'm content with lynching om.

this post is horrific. this logic doesn't even make sense. how are you drawing these conclusions about om being scum?? how does that first statement not make sense? why are you caring so much about what amounts to semantics???

In post 288, Bub Bidderskins wrote:Oh shoot, got prodded. No excuse, I'll catch up ASAP.

you have been strangely inactive so far. feels like scum lurking but that is really just my gut. at this point you are no longer my biggest scumread.

unvote

i'll vote someone at the end of this post, unless someone does something really scummy like:

In post 290, DCLXVI wrote:
vote:kid A

Votes someone cause that lynch will be the "most informative"

has refused to explain why.

VOTE: DCLXVI

way to wagon hop and completely drop the whole om thing that never made sense in the first place. can't see myself voting for kid a or anyone else after this

In post 292, yessiree wrote:VOTE: Kid A

you're being very vague when pushing the NTP wagon dude

you are coast central man. this guy could very well be scum

In post 311, Bub Bidderskins wrote: <snip>

This is huge.

Unvote; Vote: Kid A

Smudger is still scummy btw, but that catch by cowbells is massive. Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip, but then he still wants to get onto the hot NTP wagon. That is such a massive scumslip. Cowbells is conf. town. Kid A is conf. scum.

Lynch him now. I will not be happy with any other lynch today.

just want to point the gregarious absolutes that Bub is posting in all of a sudden. don't see how this confirms Cowbells as town or kid a as scum. not a scum slip at all really, although i agree that the case is good against kid a. i think the vote hop is something scum would do (and thus agree with cowbells) but trying to portray it as a scumslip looks to me like a bus from Bub.

In post 312, Bub Bidderskins wrote:
In post 293, Generic wrote:Trying to figure out this sudden kid A wagon that's formed. So far kid A has opened in RVS with a vote on NTP, then a naked vote to bub, followed by a return to NTP with what looks to be a serious vote based on indecision between the two users making up the hydra. He then criticises NTP for not explaining themselves, explains to me how to read a hydra mindset, then at post 106 changes vote to Levio based on the theory now that NTP will flip town and Levio knows this. Continues the case on Levio with decent logic, then switches to cowbell based on not much input of her own, leans on alabaska for an NTP read, goes back to cowbells to point out their OMGUS and show the difference in how each voted for people (the assumption here is that kid gives an explanation and cowbell doesn't).
From here there is an abusive outburst to alabaska to give his NTP read, moves his vote to NTP before then switching to NTP with the short reason of it giving most information.
He then in single sentence responses pushes NTP, and at one point explains he unvoted alabaska because he went v/la (dies that count as a reason?) before seemingly dodging responses to people who are pushing on him.

Summarised, there are a few concerns about his play, such as the leaving cases he built in favour of an NTP push which has very little case from him or indeed an explanation, and also the leaving of the alabaska vote I don't fully understand the reasoning given.
But beyond that he has been applying pressure and the vote changing up until NTP has always had a strong logic attached to why.

Is the wagon building solely to force him to stop dodging questions or have I missed something more damning on him? Currently im not seeing anything worthy of the speed those votes came in at.
Your defense of Kid A has been noted.

nothing wrong with being objective, bub. it is good to play mafia with an open mind and not think in absolutely. everyone who defends people you vote for is not instantly scum,

especially

when it is done so objectively as generic did it. i'm getting the feeling bub and dcl might be working together to bus Kid A here.

In post 317, Kid A wrote:
In post 311, Bub Bidderskins wrote:
Smudger is still scummy btw, but that catch by cowbells is massive. Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip, but then he still wants to get onto the hot NTP wagon. That is such a massive scumslip. Cowbells is conf. town. Kid A is conf. scum.

Lynch him now. I will not be happy with any other lynch today.
this is the misreppiest misrep to ever misrep

a suggestion that levio could be mafia expecting ntp to flip town is miles away from "Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip"

using words like scumslip and conf inappropriately might make you think your case looks really good but it entirely hinges on something you made up :c

wow a quality post from kid a!! i agree with everything said here

i'm sticking with my DCL vote here. we need more people on this. the Om business was really funky. i really like Aldusskel's analysis too; good to have a quality player replacing in. i don't know why people don't think i was pressuring bub, he's been lurking and not really responding to me and in addition no one else is voting him so the pressure has been hard to apply by myself. i like DCL as scum better now, and while i agree with Aldusskel that Kid A's play could be because he is a bad player, and that the wagon on him contains scum, i think it looks more like a bus personally. Also, ald I got that award in 2012 when i briefly came back to the site to play like two games before school prevented me from really rejoining. it was for arrested development mafia, in which i did not play as large a role as the award might indicate due to being v/la for part of endgame.

Alabaska J · Post Post #342 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:01 am

sorry i was going to clip down some of those quotes but hit submit by accident. please don't be intimidated by the wall

Kid A · Post Post #343 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:23 am

i still would really like an explained read on ntp please

yessiree · Post Post #344 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:38 am

NTP tries to be funny in his posts, but he tries too hard, so whenever he tries it comes out as overly aggressive and just plain fucking awkward

Kid A · Post Post #345 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:47 am

anyone got an ice pack

Generic · Post Post #346 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:52 am

In post 328, Alduskkel wrote:As awesome as a Generic-Om-Ald town voting bloc would be, I can't bring myself to vote NTP at the moment. Generic's case is too much relational tells and "I hate hydras" and Om's case is too much stretching and gut (which sound like unfortunate medical side effects).

NTP just reads too much like a disorganized hydra rather than scum.

I'll do a bit of meta research later and if I don't like what I see I'll probably vote NTP. (I'll mainly be looking for quality of scumhunting in other games.)

(I'd vote Smudger except that I actually sort of like his recent posts. Ugh.)

Do you know me from elsewhere? It's the first time someone had included me in a list with AWESOME attached and it makes me wonder if you know my mafia history.

Alabaska J · Post Post #347 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:28 am

In post 343, Kid A wrote:i still would really like an explained read on ntp please

what more do you want? i'll reiterate: i have a slight scum read on him, especially after his recent interaction with generic, but the hydra makes things difficult to analyze. you think we are scumbuddies or something yes? is this still because i voted bub instead of him early on when i had scumreads on both of them? would you have hounded me about bub instead of ntp in lieu of actual contribution had i voted the other? i don't know why you are still going on about this. i highly doubt he will be lynched to day anyway; looks like people want you and i've moved on to supporting DCLXVI for the block (look at his interaction with Om of the Nom and tell me that isn't scum trying to manufacture a case away from the action so as to avoid being on a wagon or avoid joining a wagon on a scumbuddy) so i don't see its relevance. i'd rather not waste time doing an iso on someone who is my fourth (maybe fifth because of yessiree's contentless tripe that makes it look like he's trying his damnedest to fly under the radar and the fact that one of the heads is OMGUSsy and hard to read) scumread right now.

Alabaska J · Post Post #348 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:29 am

In post 346, Generic wrote:
In post 328, Alduskkel wrote:As awesome as a Generic-Om-Ald town voting bloc would be, I can't bring myself to vote NTP at the moment. Generic's case is too much relational tells and "I hate hydras" and Om's case is too much stretching and gut (which sound like unfortunate medical side effects).

NTP just reads too much like a disorganized hydra rather than scum.

I'll do a bit of meta research later and if I don't like what I see I'll probably vote NTP. (I'll mainly be looking for quality of scumhunting in other games.)

(I'd vote Smudger except that I actually sort of like his recent posts. Ugh.)

Do you know me from elsewhere? It's the first time someone had included me in a list with AWESOME attached and it makes me wonder if you know my mafia history.

you said you played on MTGS right?

Alduskkel · Post Post #349 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:45 am

@Generic: I don't know you from anywhere, I just think you and Om are town and have your heads screwed on reasonably straight.

@Alabaska: DCL's case on Om was really bad. But why is it scummy? Om doesn't strike me as a good target for scum DCL.